No Mutants Allowed

I notice that this is the excuse that Hollywood makes now when it comes to silencing criticism. It's the new "artistic integrity" excuse that EA and Bioware used to throw around.

Maybe it's the internet, but I feel it is a good thing that fans start to bitch more about shitty stuff TV shows and movies do. They are not high art. You eventually end up paying for it. So when the quality drops, people have a right to throw shit at it with memes.

Kinda late to this one. This whole meme started when TLJ came out 84 years ago.

Subverting expectations is not a bad thing... but you gotta replace what people expect with something even better, which most of these clowns fail to dl. They usually just replace them with nothing and then go on a masturbatory speech about how cool they are for subverting expectations.

I mean, of course bad storytelling in something expected to be good is "subverting expectations", but I'm not sure how this alludes to "silencing criticism."

Good thing no one here really talked about 'silencing' criticism. It's more a form of argument against criticism. Like the argument that you just have to read the comic/book/what-ever to understand the movie. Or that something was to deep for you, if it's full of errors. And right now, subverting expectations, is relatively common.

I mean if you need external material to understand a movie then it's a badly writen movie.

Think about it like what happend from The Force Awakens to The Last Jedy. SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS! What's also common is, 'artistic liberty', like how the developers reacted to the criticism about Mass Effect 3s ending, of just beeing literaly chose A, B or C! and how it ended, defeated pretty much the whole point of ME1 and 2.

They like it both ways, they shield themselves from criticism by calling their stuff art, but then don't want people analysing them in depth, despite that being the point of art appreciation.

I was responding to RangerBoo's post. I get what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to assume an artist won't defend their work. There will always be a reason behind the decisions made, and you have every right to call out the reasoning as bad. I disagree with criticising "artistic liberty" though, as that implies the writers shouldn't have liberty.

Nobody criticizes artistic liberty, but some do use the term as an all encompasing defense with any issues on a story. Kinda like when racists just default to ramble about their "freedums of speech" when called out.

That's a good point. Although if you're having to resort to saying, "it's muh artistic liberty" to defend your work you probably wrote a sh*tty work, so it would be kind of a given that the writer sucked at that point anyway.

In my opinion artistic liberty has not much meaning the moment you're getting paid and sell something to people. I get what you're saying, but we're not talking about defending your work. If we talk about Star Wars or GoT for example, this is a clear example of, to put it bluntly, shitty writing.