No Mutants Allowed

I loved Walter White's character progression, but no one can seriously defend half of the shit he did. Doing it for his family is not an excuse for those actions.

All depends on what atrocities you wanna justify. You can probably tell from my username, but I’ve a higher “justifiable atrocity threshold” than most. Most people look at Nipton and see horror. I see a beautiful lesson in karmic justice and guérilla warfare. But I digress.

There's an alarming amount of people in the fanbase who honestly think Walt was both intelligent and good to Jessie both of which are outright false.

Ok, that’s... just wrong. As in, inaccurate.

Walt shattered Jesse by the end of the show, he was a broken character by the end of the show. What's more alarming is the amount of people that hate Skyler. I rewatched the show recently and she was the voice of reason. A lot of stuff could have probably been prevented if Walt listened to her.

I’ve a feeling that Walt’s downfall was inevitable simply due to the person he became. It was only ending one way, and the mistakes leading up to that were, arguably, a result of natural cause and effect.

I don’t feel the need to spoiler alert because you two obviously watched Breaking Bad, but I believe that Walt’s death, and everything that lead up to it, was a kind of snowball effect. And even if at times Walt had the chance to listen to Skylar, he simply wouldn’t have because that wasn’t the man he was becoming.

Also Better Call Saul > Breaking Bad

Walt died because he was a spastic who couldn't plan for shit

Exactly. Skylar, as it was said, was the voice of reason. Walt’s character arc showed him becoming increasingly violent and unhinged, and that, in my opinion, was why he didn’t listen to her. He was turning into anything but a reasonable man.

I do love in the first season, maybe season 2 too, everybody is saying Jesse is such a bad influence on Walt. And then in the remaining seasons everyone is saying Walt is such a bad influence on Jesse.

Relating to characters (their failures, their weaknesses, their aggression, their lack of control) easily translates into *defending* both the characters - as well as all those undesireable traits that we relate to (being imperfect ourselves). It's an easy trap (albeit usually unintended by the show creators)

I was honestly surprised when one of my friends mentioned that he started to dislike Walt after the prison purge.

I disliked Walter from season 2 onwards. He's a fucking spastic who hurts everyone he cares about for his own gain from the moment he let Jane die.

Walter is amazingly written, in how profoundly dislikable he becomes. I am also impressed at the Skyler hate-trap they lay - you hate her, cus shes ruining the fun, then when it's not fun anymore, you regret hating her

Never once hated Skylar because she was the polar opposite to Walter who I found arrogant, annoying, cruel, and a bit pathetic.