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Ayelander
Ayelander
You realise that the games are set in Japan, and follow Japan's own societal laws on the matter? There's a 'Genuine Romance' clause that goes into relationships between a 16+yo and a legal adult, that removes any legal status of statutory rape. And there's no sign of 'youth corruption' or obscenity.

As for the LBGT shit, uh? Not really relevant, is it? Either in this conversation or in Japan's social outlook.
Morgan_
Morgan_
How old is Joker actually? This might be legal in Japan.
Edit: Nvm, already addressed.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Always suspicious when someone has such direct knowledge of how to legally fuck minors in another country.
Ayelander
Ayelander
So, essentially: You got clapped, and brought up gays for no reason and now you're trying to implictly call me a pedo for knowing what I'm talking about while you didn't.

K.
Walpknut
Walpknut
In japan is still taboo for a teacher to date their student. Even illegal, most teachers would lose their jobs if caught doing that. A "genuine romantic relationship" would be near impossible to stablish as real when one of the persons involved has direct authority over the other like in a student and teacher.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Kinda the point with the first dungeon. Then again, Ann getting harrassed is a runing gag later on. Game is fun tho, but as a consistent narrative with a social message is wonky to say the least.
Ayelander
Ayelander
Again, these rules are established in Japan, by Japanese, and understood as part of Japanese society. You're looking at this through a western lens. Kamoshida is the only one that you can describe as being unethical in his position of authority over his students.
Ayelander
Ayelander
If you would even skim through a summary of the Kawakami route, you can clearly see that she asks for nothing, never leverages or holds anything over Joker's head, and makes it clear that she can't boost his grades or any other shit because of their relationship.
Ayelander
Ayelander
Also, I believe you are confusing Yusuke's socially inept request of asking Ann to model nude for a painting being brought up as an in-joke between the characters with what she and Shiho went through with Kamoshida.
Believe it or not, people use humour as a valid way to confront and deal with trauma and negative experiences.
Walpknut
Walpknut
In Japan it's still taboo, just as in the west, japan isn't like hentai dude. And it's still a fucked up thing to happen, but in Hashino's stories is always okay when the teacher is hot, meaning younger than 40 because in Persona 4 the teacher going the students was funny because she was too old despite looking the same as the nurse slink.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Except Ann is usually the target of those jokes against her will and as the only joke, so... It's justa Hashino and an animu thing. Which is something one just lives with, but Persona 5 does the dumb thing of treating it dead serious on the first arc and then doing the typical gag with no self awareness for the entire game.
Ayelander
Ayelander
It isn't taboo when the genuine romance clause comes into effect. That's a fact of the matter. I really don't understand why you can't wrap your head around a different culture seeing things differently than you.
Sounds to me that you're upset over not getting your own teacher gf in school.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Nope, it's taboo because it's a position of authority. In fact is because it's taboo that romance use the scenario because of the forbiden love aspect. Just go ask an actual person who has been a teacher in japan what would happen if they are caught dating a student. Again, don't confuse anime for the actual culture of Japan. FyI, you still can't fuck your sister in Japan without people findign it gross either.
R.Graves
R.Graves
A reasonable thing to be upset about tbh
Ayelander
Ayelander
Against her will? When does she ever pull anyone aside and say "Hey, that's not ok. Don't joke about it"
Never. She says "Quit it!" And moves on, because it's not a source of genuine distress for her, it's an embarrassing moment, like your parents showing pics of you as a kid in the bath to your SO.
Ayelander
Ayelander
Themes of sexual abuse are never treated lightly in P5, I have no clue where you're getting the idea from.
It's a serious subject in act 1, and it's a serious issue in act 3 with Kaneshiro threatening to pimp out Makoto if they can't raise the money.
R.Graves
R.Graves
Bro you aint understand people being attracted to each other is inherently wrong bro
Walpknut
Walpknut
Dude, it's the entire joke, and it's whatever in anime. But the game tries to take it dead serious the first arc and then does it with no self awareness later. Same with Ryuji getting dragged to be molested off screen by two gay guys being a funny joke. Hashino is kind of a wonky writer.
R.Graves
R.Graves
The fact you cant romance ryuji makes me a sad sad boy
Walpknut
Walpknut
Yusuke should've been a romance option, wouldn't need to even alter the existing social link beyond the last part lmao.
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