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R.Graves
R.Graves
How so? I didn't see any big plot holes or bad dialogue. But then again I've only viewed it once.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Every character acting out of character, the movie going absolutely nowhere for the first half, then solving everything hastily fter the airport fight that served no propouse other than giving the trailer Footage to show.
R.Graves
R.Graves
I didn't see anyone acting out of character. Only problem I had was black panther treating the audience like idiots and spoonfeeding us the moral lesson.
Mr muggyman 3000
Mr muggyman 3000
Mr muggyman 3000
I thought the plot was great I understood everyone's motivation for the things they did and it had some heart touching moments
R.Graves
R.Graves
Now I'm not sure I'd call the plot great. But the character interactions were top notch imo.
Walpknut
Walpknut
The character interactions were just a collection of "witty quips" the movie crams like 12 people in there, only Stark gets any form of a character arc (on the Cap America movie) and everyone seems to have forgoten what happened to them in the previous movies.
Walpknut
Walpknut
The guy who took down an unregulated organization because he didn't believe anyone should've that much power and do what they wanted is now against responding to the crimes his team comits.
Walpknut
Walpknut
And the guy who spent all of his movies keeping the government off his stuff is now pro regulation. These characters are so out of character is kind of ridiculous.
R.Graves
R.Graves
Stark is pro government because his unregulated actions led to "Ultron" plus there was the incident where he got drunk in the suit. And cap is anti government because of shield being secretly run by hydra. I do agree they could have done a better job explaining motivations but still the reasons are there.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Except Stark ended with his actions being rewarded as Vision ended up being what he wanted to make when he made Ultron. They now just throw some complete 180 to characterization just to make him the bad guy.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Same wya Rogers was against Stark creating Ultron before, but now he is convinced they are the best people to make choices in how to save the world, which runs against literary everything he has done in the movies until now.
Walpknut
Walpknut
And the movie just had awful pace in general, characters popping up out of nowhere just to get written out immediately, dialogue that is mostly just quips and RDJ is so visibly tired of playing Stark is kind of uncomfortable.
R.Graves
R.Graves
Stark ain't the bad guy. (I was on his side). Civil war has a multitude of flaws but character motivation ain't one of em. For example civil wars villain probably hs the same amount of screen time as boba fett did in the original star wars trilogy. That's a problem. The motivation make sense to me.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Tony Stark is painted very balantly as the bad guy, the movie paints the regulation thing as bad, almost nobody on Stark's side stays there nor do they have any character arc. Everybody that stays with him are the character who never get much screen time to begin with.
Walpknut
Walpknut
They also carefully picked the most popular and "nice" characters to be on Cap's side (Black Widow, Hawkeye and Antman), While Stark Side's has only his prexisting sidekicksm he gets Spiderman but Spiderman feel almost added in post production.
Walpknut
Walpknut
Not to mention they made a villain the face of the Regulation side (Thunderbolt Ross). This movie was even worse than the Comic Civil war storyline.
R.Graves
R.Graves
Well it is caps movie. The problem I'm seeing is they keep doing these ideas that are probably best done as a trilogy or at least duology and as a result these movies are becoming overstuffed messes.
Walpknut
Walpknut
It was a Captain America movie where Cap America gets very little character development and it was just a tumor of Avengers 2.
R.Graves
R.Graves
... I'm not saying that what is essentially a summer popcorn flick has great writing but it's at least okay imo. Hey walp out of curiosity what is your favorite superhero movie?
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