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So to be honest, in my subjective opinion, I dislike Fallout 3. Fallout New Vegas is great though, and while Fallout 4's dialogue took a step back, but it's amazing in every other way. But anyways, it's okay to subjectively dislike something, but that doesn't make it objectively bad. I can see...

I mean if we were only comparing it to Fallout 1, and you were asking my subjective opinion, I would agree with you. However, Fallout 2 had equally absurd content and threw all seriousness out the window. The opening cutscene has a bong in it, there is a medicine man that speaks with you through...

That's probably how they pitched it, and their loan/acquisition was obviously denied.

That's not how economics work x) That's not how economics work; they shut down because they were financially insolvent, the fact that they were financially insolvent from making games that didn't offer a return meant that they couldn't get a loan or a publisher to acquire Fallout.

So Troika was already shut down before Bethesda bought Fallout. Thank you.

If you're happy with Wasteland 2/3, then you wouldn't still be salty about Fallout. And like I said, Bethesda has left it up to Obsidian to make whatever Fallout game they want, so direct all of you ire towards them. Fallout 3/4/New Vegas are good games, games that have changed the landscape...

What publisher in their right mind would have put up enough money for an unproven studio to buy Fallout in order to make a CRPG in 2007? And even if they did, chances are the game would have been broken anyways. They couldn't even get the frames to stabilize in their demo with the shaders on...

Yeah, except for OBSIDIAN/INTERPLAY, THE ORIGINAL F**KING DEVELOPER. Troika's game never even existed! They would have folded regardless! Bethesda wants Obsidian to make the game you want, and they won't! And plus Wasteland 2/3 exist, and you aren't happy with those either. The reason the...

Okay so let me get this straight, you're mad at Bethesda, no because they prevented Interplay/Obsidian from making a Fallout game, but instead you're mad because they prevented TROIKA from making one? Like yeah Vampire the Masquerade was good, but if they couldn't go on to release a game from...

Troika could have just released that title on their own! And if their writing was good as well as their game mechanics the game would have been just as good. And you're ignoring the fact that Bethesda instantly licensed Fallout to Interplay when they bought the series in 2007, which gave them 3...

I literally have Mankind Divided installed, plus Divinity 2, Fallout 1/2, Dishonored, Disco Elysium, Knights of the Old Republic... I've owned and played pretty much every important game that's come out. Norzan, in Fallout 3 there is good writing and dialogue trees, and in Fallout 4 there is...

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So when games are being made, studios have to allot resources to certain aspects. This is why there isn't a massive multiplayer open world RPG with FPS/Action combat, dialogue trees, fully interactive environments with Havok physics, interior cells, etc. Bethesda achieved merging the FPS genre...

I mean, if you think that the majority of gamers (which at this point is a large portion of the population) are "retards" because they enjoy first person shooters in general, that speaks more on your own arrogance than anything else man. That's the type of statement people only make on the...

Finally Norzan, by your definition, no game can have any dialogue of length without "taking control away from the player"... that's prety silly. And as I said, when I, and many other people talk aboit "taking control away" we mean physically taking away control of the player character, as I...

I mean passable as a Triple A first person shooter, that's a really high bar that no game with a progression system has never pulled off as far as I know; for example, I would not call Borderlands combat "passable". "Passable" FPS combat is like Halo Reach (worst in the series imo), Call of Duty...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Bethesda doesn't even refer to their games as RPGs. If you could find a moder instance where I'm wrong, I'll concede the point to you.

So Gizmo/Norz, you guys mentioned that Bethesda games are comparable to McDonalds, and that on GoG/Steam, their games have low scores. So McDonalds isn't critically acclaimed, it's just popular. And Steam/GoG aren't based on objective critical opinion, and a lot of the rating are review bomb...

And finally I'm not gonna' sit here and try to defend the objective merits of games that have 90%+ on Metacritic (Oblivion has a 94%, Fallout 3 91%). It's totally fine to not enjoy Bethesda games, it's valid to say you don't like them because of A, B, and C, but metacritic was created to...

You're right I forget about the ladder two, but Bethesda does publish Arkane Studios, which I think is even fuirther proof of a connection.