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Too late! Your fellow moderator had an itchy ban-finger :wink:

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Mm. Well, this was fun, but I've spent enough time trifling about stuff that doesn't matter. It was fun being civil with a group known for being cloistered off. To tell you the truth, I don't really care that much about the fallout franchise. I've played through Fallout 2, and some of...

Bioshock :wink:

Oblivion's biggest problem was that it wasn't an exploration of something new. It was Bethesda falling back on generic, classic fantasy. Dungeons, castles, elves, and knights. Compare that to Morrowind, which was one of the most unique and alien fantasy worlds I've ever seen. The lore of...

Isn't mullins' artwork evidence for Bethesda's knowledge of Fallout atmosphere? The picture of the group of people standing over a corpse in front of camp- it's very... Fallouty, yes? If Mullins knew nothing of the franchise beforehand, then he would have needed someone with strong knowledge of...

The world looked pretty retro 50's- post apocolyptic to me. And, with the change in locale from the west to the east coast, wouldn't you expect things to be different? I think the colder, blue look of northeast America (seen in the concept art) is an interesting contrast with the dry browns and...

I don't know what cum hoc ergo propter hoc means. What does it mean? Could you also do more than just say I used logical fallacies? Quotes, at the very least.

I don't see how it's dumbed down. It's different, sure. But they're promising a dozen different endings. The skill system is there. At the very least, their concept artist (<3 Craig Mullins) is creating imaginative, original environments that they'll capitalize on. It's not right to judge the...

Really? Care to back that up?

I haven't once used the phrase "logical fallacy." I haven't talked about strawmen, or slippery slopes, nor have I proclaimed my own intelligence or debased your own. I hate the kind of person who thinks he's better than others. I'm not saying you, or any NMAer is stupid. I'm saying you're...

Is it moot? What else is being discussed?

You can have an opinion without being biased. It's called open-mindedness.

None of those games were made by Bethesda. Myth 3, made by gearbox, was an absolutely terrible game. It's an insult to the franchise. But if another company was handed the Myth liscense, I'd give it a chance.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to overcome that bias, though?

okay, it's not canon. How does that make it a bad game?

At least you're still willing to consider buying the game. That's more than can be said for most other NMA'ers.

Don't you see how disregarding the game based on the image you've conjured up in your own mind- an image founded on scant evidence and admitted bias- is the wrong thing to do? If someone sold delicious ice cream marketed under the name "poop," I'd scarf that stuff down.

You misread my post. The vocal majority of NMA has, in essence, stated that it is not buying Fallout 3 because it is called Fallout 3. If it were a post-apocolyptic FPS of any other name, they'd have no problem with it. You're not buying (what may be) a good game with a bad name. I...

So you're admitting that you would not buy a good game based on name alone? Would you care to explain to me how that is any better than buying a bad game- say, Perfect Dark Zero- because of the name? I know that a lot of people here at NMA think that, by not buying FO3, they'll be sending...