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Owww.... yeah.... that..... Now I'm confused. I have to think this one over... Hmmmh..... yeah.... you're right. Me saying that there's no reason to nuke a city doesn't make sense at all no matter how you look at it. :crazy: Well... it still doesn't affect my initial post at all. But that...

There's something I have to mention.... Zone of the Enders 2: Second Runner for Playstation 2. Now, seeing as popular MGS is, I wouldn't be too surprised if anyone KNEW about this series. However I would be surprised if anyone has PLAYED these games. Zone of the Enders (The original...

Aaaaa.... I see.... yes, that is true. In such case a revenge, nor sadism, nor pro-active fits in. But that's quite different in nature with the first one. Are those situations even comparable? I can't really find a reason why not off the top of my hat, but... that doesn't still mean they...

I belive we just got to the core of this whole deal... You are right... I can't see the difference between those things. Taking that factor in means that... we are both absolutely right with our own stand points. Which makes this whole argue quite futile and meaningless. This is quite...

Are you sure that you don't have things mixed up? I have always said that KILLING A CHILD AND NUKING A CITY IS MORALLY UNCOMPARABLE and you seemed to agree with it. So why would you now compare these two events? In the post you quoted I was talking about different situations of killing a...

That's not out of this (Nor FO's) world at all. Child soldiers is a common thing in war and I wonder why especially raider gangs don't use children? It's not like it's a theme not done in any other game either. At least MGS has had child soldiers in it... well... at least they used to till...

What's the difference between these two? It's the same one presented in slightly different fashion. The situation is exactly same in both. A child stole something from you, you kill the child and take the stuff back. Ain't that the case in both? So what's the difference between them? Then...

I didn't really go through the article from word to word as to what they exactly and precisely said. But is there a possibility that if you aim for head, you might still hit the eyes by accident? I mean... I kinda hope that aiming for head is more like "trying to hit some part of the whole...

Prevention of thievery? I have no idea which category that would fit. It's not sadism, but it's not exactly taking a revenge either per se. It cannot be counted as a random kill either. Pro-active kill? That's a new one on me... does anybody actually do this, or has anyone done this? I've...

For the ninth time, killing the child to get your stolen stuff back fits the term of revenge kill perfectly. I'm still waiting for an example that doesn't fit in either revenge kill, or sadism. Could you elaborate on this? I have no idea what this has to do with my initial post. Where...

Owww... that's true... didn't think about that at all. But then again that is quite comparable with detonating that nuclear bomb. What I said in my very first posts was that targeting for a child exclusively is intention wise very different from blasting a city and everything in it. But...

Actually.... I'm not doing that at all.... I believe the one that setup this forum did. I'm merely following common forum rules and talking about Fallout, or at least games and trying to keep out of (Although unsuccessfully so in the past, that was reckless of me and I apologise) real life...

I have absolutely no idea what it has to do with actions of censorship loving beasts, but the topic is ...do you really want to kill a child and I believe it has 100% to do with that. Thus I don't completely comprehend your question. And no, I am not trying to defend them. I already stated...

I have yet to see a murder, or kill that lacks a motive. I believe there has never been such thing in RL, or in a game. In a game, boredome counts definately as a motive to slaughter a village. If you can provide an example that doesn't have a motive whatsoever I have no chance but to admit...

Ouch, there's some misinterprations here... Maybe that was my fault for not being clear enough? I dunno... I'll try to clear what I meant. You see, this is something I never said. I never said (Or at least meant to say) that killing a child is a bigger crime morally. All I said is that it's...

Interesting to see that Vamp is apparently more hated than Raiden, whom is usually flamed to death the second you mention him. However, it is very wrong to compare Vamp to Alucard, or any other vampire for that matter, because Vamp isn't vampire at all. He's bi-sexual and practices vampirism...

Accused by civilians? International law committies? (I'm not that familiar with the aftermath of those droppings) In either case my statement still stands. Even if YOU commence the actual detonation for a bundle of cash, that bundle of cash is still not the ultarior motive behind the...

*Raises his fake-eyeglasses from his nose Otacon style from MGS* I know, I know... I'm new here and propably pumbing an old topic. I hope I can be forgiven for such horrid actions. Well... I have to disagree with this. Nuking a city and killing a child are morally UNCOMPARABLE. The...

I also have a very similar problem. I came from a previous mission to the bunker Epsilon to get the new one, which was Cheyenne Mountain. I try to get my squad to the green exit grid, but nothing happens. It's like it wouldn't matter if the green grid were there, or not. I'm using the...