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@ Brother None Not a myth - not really. When I said that paternity is a fiction in F3's I meant that (by the words of G. B. Shaw) all the work of disciplining and educating himself (Lone Wanderer), which should have been done for him (by his father) he had to do for himself. Look at F3's...

@ Brother None I guess I have to agree with what you said (most of it). I could argue if I'm really - to use your words - "forming a definition" (while "Bethesda never did"), but it would be pointless since it's a matter of - yes - perspective. A matter of take. Just prove me I'm wrong here -...

@ JayGrey I don't really know. Guess it depends on your take. If you have an interest in considering ghoul a fuzzy bunny wabit rather than a ghoul... :) But I see. It's the problem with art, maybe, that it interpretes reality and then it has to be interpreted itself. I guess nothing is sure...

@ Brother None Yes. There are, obviously, according to me; what I was trying to do was to extract F3's take on it; and what I was trying to say, saying that it's - paternity - a "matter of discourse" according to F3 is that it's legalized fiction (when discourse = way of thinking...

@ JayGrey Well. When it comes to Moira, you may, if you want, consider her actions around writing her guide a try to become an authority. And - also - she can be hardly taken seriously. Face it or not, "Cool shit" is very weak interpretation :) But seriously. Sorry for my "metallic...

@ DexterMorgan I see your point. Guess it will end up being discussion about when it's over- and when it's underinterpretation. But be fair - I understand ironizing when it comes to fanboy-interpretations - but what I'm trying to accomplish here is to point out that - despite mechanics' flaws...

Well then, sorry for wasting YOUR time, man :) *edited

@ Brother None: All right, I'll try to show the coherence. But don't get me wrong and try to take my take on F3 as a "thematical game" seriously. I believe that F3's take on paternity is that it's kind of "legal fiction". While maternity is "real" - there are blood ties and all - paternity...

Yes, you're right, roleplaying is not really present in F3, but I bet they had planned overall themes (while we can never know for sure). Themes have really nothing to do with roleplaying - not really - fpshooters also cover themes. And if there are no themes - general themes - in F3, how one...

Yes, it never changes and nobody knows who started it. Shit. That's exactly what F1 and F2 did without it, without using any 40s or 50s hits, isn't it? Those existential themes like "being condemned to chose" (like in Sartre's) without any authority over you in a world of the fall of man...

If it's not just a scene you will have to watch. Anyway. This tank mod was a lot of fun. I'd like to see my own Vertibird crushing on the edge of the map :d

Here it is once again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opeq1tcq1Xc Let me present you my short analysis of this one. Just like I written in the comment on YouTube: 0:30. Looks like you are actually going to fly Vertibird. Or so it looks like. And it looks like you're going to visit Raven Rock...

Well, to give you fair response: I meant: complaining about DLCs price is in fact *all right* if you're not comparing it to the price of the game. That proves nothing except what I said imho. And this politics of cach draining is *the dark side of capitalism* (-: I do fully agree. But I'm...

Yeah, that's right. Let's have a fine example: last week (on Friday 08.03.09) Epic Games released huge DLC "Titan Pack" for their Unreal Tournament 3. About 1gb of stuff - for free. And not only additional maps, but much more of fine content, too. That's nice, for sure. However, I like the idea...

Agreed. I believe we're having similiar thoughts about it and see it pretty much the same way. Only my response to F3 is a bit more *positive*, I guess. It's why I would never say that Bethesda is doing *whatever* is cool. Still, they're doing what *is* cool. In some way... (-:

To "lugaru": Those "Olympics of complaining" are, as far as I can see it, a proof that fans are caring about Fallout to stay canon. And is, in fact, a good thing (because F3 is sometimes out of canon: like when you happen to find out that Vault-Tec is experimenting with FEV, which was property...

To "Ausdoerrt": I never did claim that *you all* think and say that Fallout should remain 2D. Those are your words and in your contrargument you're addressing them. I did write "some people". Didn't I? I really think you should address what I write or say directly, not them fancy random your...

Just how the hell can you intrude anyone to take YOUR definition of sci-fi as a common one? Or IS there any common one? Just prove it for the means of any further discussion. Or you can always define it here. But if you believe that your definition of sci-fi is only one correct or that it has...

So? I don't really understand how THIS could be a flaw... Maybe you want them to make it rainbow-wide colored? Aw, c'mon, man, design has, imho, to be coherent this way in a game like this one. It will be a big fucking laugh of this anticipated critics, I suppose, when the DLC comes out and...