Bethesda Defends "3" in Fallout 3.

[Pope Viper]

MTV Multiplayer asked Pete Hines "why call it Fallout 3?" (mostly in the sense that the "3" might not be necessary).<blockquote>“We do consider it to be part of the series and we are trying to continue the legacy of ‘Fallout 1′ and ‘2′,” explained Hines. “That’s part of it, which is that we wanted to fit in to what’s going on. We didn’t want to suddenly just call it ‘Fallout’ because then it’s like we’re trying to pretend like the first one didn’t [exist].”

The way Hines talked about the subject, you could sense that making Bethesda’s take on “Fallout” as an official third entry raised the stakes for them on a personal level. It drove them to make this a true “Fallout” sequel, not a mere reboot, even if the visuals had changed.

“There’s only one ‘Fallout’ ever. There’s only one ‘Fallout 2,’” said Hines. “Those games will always exist and we didn’t want to do anything that was seen as trying to start over again. Honestly, we never really seriously considered anything else. It’s the next ‘Fallout’ game, that’s what we’re trying to to, both for people who played the original games and people who never have.”</blockquote>Well, Pete, based on what a lot of folks are saying, you did start over.

Thanks to B5C.

 

[Per]

This isn't news, it's just a short editorial which references a previous interview.

 

[SuAside]

lol at Fallout 3 being a true Fallout sequel.

uhu, keep telling yourself that Pete. repeat it enough and maybe people will start believing you.

 

[Seelix]

Pete Hines “We do consider it to be part of the series...

But what series exactly is he talking about, huh? Because it surely does seem to be part of the series. Not Fallout series, but who cares since they "did what they do best".

 

[Brother None]

“We do consider it to be part of the series and we are trying to continue the legacy of ‘Fallout 1′ and ‘2′,”

That's kinda sad, when you think about it.

 

[Morbus]

People already believe him.

 

[MorbidMind]

But what series exactly is he talking about, huh? Because it surely does seem to be part of the series. Not Fallout series, but who cares since they did what they do best.

Ride on the coattails of previous successes?

I really don't see how they could say this is a true Fallout, but the gaming media is insisting that it is as well in just about every review. Hell, the majority of gamers are lauding it as a great Fallout success (Most of whom I doubt have even touched the originals.).

 

[Seymour the spore plant]

Funny how he manages to turn the tables into being oh-so considerate towards the franchise. Yeah, Pete, the only options were to name it Fallout 3 or gloss over the original. No alternative whatsoever has been pointed out a thousand times even on your own forums.

"There’s only one 'Fallout' ever. There's only one 'Fallout 2'"

And now, unfortunately, there is only one "Fallout 3".

 

[wamingo]

Pete is paid to defend the game... Can't expect an honest answer from such a person.

 

[Public]

...then it’s like we’re trying to pretend like the first one didn’t [exist]

Ehmm...you are already doing this.

 

[Slaughter Manslaught]

From what I know about Fallout 3, it should've been called something like Ultimate Fallout. Not only it would make more sense, but it would really be better. If they did a Ultimate Fallout, as in - Reimaginated Fallout universe, that would make the game stand more on itself and less comparisons with the originals could be made.

As in:

"Look, this is a reimaginated Fallout Universe. Here, Super Mutants are mad orcs who want to kill people and have no idea how to speak (also, no lips), the Brotherhood of Steel is a organization of honored, wasteland knights, the Enclave is EEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL, there's a vault no one enters and no one leaves... and the list goes on. Ye olde lovede Fallout universe still exists, just like it was left by BIS after FO2."

Makes more sense than calling this the sequence to Fallout 1 and 2. Van Buren was the sequence to Fallout 1 and 2. This is not the sequence to Fallout 1 and 2, this is a new Fallout spin-off series.

 

[verwandlung]

“We do consider it to be part of the series and we are trying to continue the legacy of ‘Fallout 1′ and ‘2′,”

That's kinda sad, when you think about it.

That is indeed very sad, prepare for the future ...

 

[Tyshalle]

Personally I like it. A lot. There are things about it I don't like. I feel like it tries to play to the strengths of both Fallout and Oblivion, and doesn't live up to the high level of quality of either, but it comes close. It doesn't wind up being quite as complete or expansive of a world as Oblivion, and it's really left the tabletop concepts of Fallout by the wayside, but the wasteland does feel like Fallout.

I really wonder how many of you are sticking to your fairly ridiculous biases even now that the game is out and you have the opportunity to play it. The continued accusations that anybody who says this game feels like a continuation of Fallout must be lying or never played the originals is bullshit. Fallout 1 still remains my all time favorite RPG, and I've played both it and Fallout 2 several times over, and have had those two games affect me in many ways, but I still feel like Fallout 3 does feel like a continuation of the story, in the same way that Fallout 2 was a continuation of Fallout 1's story.

And I seriously hope that anyone who's going to level an insult at someone accusing them of "probably never touched the originals" has at least played the 3rd one for themselves, else they are a big fucking hypocrite who doesn't deserve to have his opinions heard.

 

[Seymour the spore plant]

That's kinda sad, when you think about it.

For some reason, I can't bring myself to feel bad for them.

In the worst case scenario, they're talentless hacks feasting on the corpse of other people's creations. At best, they're incompetent and too proud to admit not having what it takes to make a decent Fallout. Either way, they're going to make fuckloads of money in spite of all that, once again.

I really wonder how many of you are sticking to your fairly ridiculous biases even now that the game is out and you have the opportunity to play it

Whoa, easy there. Saying that not liking Fallout 3 is a "ridiculous bias" is no different from the accusations you mentioned - you are imposing your own standards and tastes to everyone else exactly the same as someone who says you can't like both it and the original games.

 

[whirlingdervish]

Nobody said you can't like the game.

They might have implied that you're an uninformed sellout, but that's an entirely different animal.

 

[TychoXI]

I really wonder how many of you are sticking to your fairly ridiculous biases even now that the game is out and you have the opportunity to play it

Whoa, easy there. Saying that not liking Fallout 3 is a "ridiculous bias" is no different from the accusations you mentioned - you are imposing your own standards and tastes to everyone else exactly the same as someone who says you can't like both it and the original games.

the problem is not about people sayin' they do not like FO3, its with people sayin' "its not Fallout" or "its a spin-off" or such things. I haven't played it yet, (Im dyin' to) but as far as I can see it IS a fallout game, the unique atmosphere and feeling, SPECIAL, and a big world responding to your various choices are all there. I'm hoping to hear from Tim Cain, Chris Avellone or Feargus Urquhart commentin' on FO3 anytime soon so you can all shut up with your whining and accusations towards "teh evil Bethe$da".

 

[pkt-zer0]

I haven't played it yet, (Im dyin' to) but as far as I can see it IS a fallout game, the unique atmosphere and feeling, SPECIAL, and a big world responding to your various choices are all there.

I'm not sure how you could argue that SPECIAL is still intact, with all the massive changes done on that front. Lack of turn-based combat would be an obvious one.

I'm hoping to hear from Tim Cain, Chris Avellone or Feargus Urquhart commentin' on FO3 anytime soon so you can all shut up with your whining and accusations towards "teh evil Bethe$da".

I'd be interested in what Leonard Boyarsky would have to say about the game, actually.

(That last part doesn't really make you seem rational and unbiased, by the way.)

 

[TychoXI]

I'm not sure how you could argue that SPECIAL is still intact, with all the massive changes done on that front. Lack of turn-based combat would be an obvious one.

I know, but its still SPECIAL, they didn't put something different and are callin' it SPECIAL just because they retained the names of the atributes. (even van buren had a modified SPECIAL.)

I'd be interested in what Leonard Boyarsky would have to say about the game, actually.

yup, I'm more of a FO2 person.

(That last part doesn't really make you seem rational and unbiased, by the way.)

I dunno what ye mean! If the key FO and FO2 people would say "Hey, its not what I would of done, but its a cool FO game!" then all discussion would end and all would be right in the world!

 

[Karak]

Sure...if you're the kind of person who likes to be spoon-fed what to think...

 

[JR Jansen]

, its with people sayin' "its not Fallout" or "its a spin-off" or such things. but as far as I can see it IS a fallout game,

With this you fall flat on your face. Fallout tactics IS a Fallout game but it IS NOT a sequel to Fallout 1 and 2. So in the same manner Fallout 3 MAY BE a Fallout game but it MAY NOT BE a sequel, despite the 3 in it.