Enclave in relation to the Main Quest

Harold2

First time out of the vault
You know in Star Wars, where they needed to shoot a single missile down a little tube on the deathstar, just to make the thing blow up?

And then the second deathstar was destroyed with the help of Ewoks?

This is what I call Death Star syndrome. It's where, (and it's perfectly reasonable in movies, where time space is limited) some vast and evil empire takes one tiny push to fall down. Like the Enclave. Notice how you captured by the Enclave? Within a few lines of dialogue, you're already running around their base killing their extremely weak soldiers because of internal divisions. Within a few minutes, you've convinced their boss to destroy the base. Oh, and he's a computer. This fantastic, characterful villain that has been built up for me. He's not even some huge HAL inspired computer with a huge screen and a menacing red eye. He's a small computer. Where's the damn theatricality? Where's the villainy? Where's the fun?

Where the F is the challenge, and, in relation to this thread, where is the satisfaction in defeating an organization that falls over like a cardboard cut-out?

I liked Fallout 3. Personally, it felt like a Beta version where the quests where still under construction, and that actual scriptwriters hadn't finished the real dialogue yet, but I DID have fun. Until I turned my attention to the main quest. So. Thoughts on the Enclave in relation to the main quest.
 
Every thread in this forum will most likely spoil any plot details for you, BEAST. You should just steer clear if you don't want to run the risk of getting something ruined.

The entire plot is pointless. I've found myself just ignoring it, killing things, coming up with my own ideas about the wasteland and what is going on for my character. The game is better that way.
 
ScottXeno said:
Every thread in this forum will most likely spoil any plot details for you, BEAST. You should just steer clear if you don't want to run the risk of getting something ruined.

The entire plot is pointless. I've found myself just ignoring it, killing things, coming up with my own ideas about the wasteland and what is going on for my character. The game is better that way.
Not for me, I've beaten the game with a bludgeoning stick. I want turn that stick on the Bethesda devs and their little fanboys as well, but that'd be illegal.

But it's not beyond anyone else in this forum to use spoiler warnings, what makes this guy so special?
 
The descriptor beneath the forum name itself contains the phrase "Expect spoilers."
As such, you should expect spoilers in this forum.
 
Re: Death Star Syndrome

Harold2 said:
You know in Star Wars, where they needed to shoot a single missile down a little tube on the deathstar, just to make the thing blow up?

And then the second deathstar was destroyed with the help of Ewoks?

This is what I call Death Star syndrome. It's where, (and it's perfectly reasonable in movies, where time space is limited) some vast and evil empire takes one tiny push to fall down. Like the Enclave. Notice how you captured by the Enclave? Within a few lines of dialogue, you're already running around their base killing their extremely weak soldiers because of internal divisions. Within a few minutes, you've convinced their boss to destroy the base.
I don't think Luke would be able to convince the Emperor to leave his plans of destroying the Rebellion. :)
 
Would be funny seeing Luke convince the Emporer to blow up the deathstar after a short conversation though.
 
Alphadrop said:
Would be funny seeing Luke convince the Emporer to blow up the deathstar after a short conversation though.

If Bethesda did it;

Luke "Emperor, you have to stop it."

Emperor Palpatine "Nonsense my young friend, clearly you can see that I am the best choice for order and stability in the galaxy."

Luke "You can't force people to serve you."

Emperor Palpatine "But I have the Force and this battlestation."

Luke "But it is wrong, can't you see that."

Emperor Palpatine "Hmm, very well, I will blow up the Death Star II once you and Vader have left it."
 
In my opinion, the main quest was the most god-awful part of this whole game. While there are a great deal of things wrong with it, this is something that's just utterly glaring. Bethesda must have some of the most inept writers to contrive that piece of shit they call a story. And the Enclave Base part was really just the worst of it all. Malcolm McDowell is such a cool mother fucker, and they ruin his character. Just like they took Patrick Stewart and gave him some terrible lines to work with, and made Sean Bean equally as boring. They pick up all of my favorite actors and make them do the worst shit.
 
Infernaeus said:
In my opinion, the main quest was the most god-awful part of this whole game. While there are a great deal of things wrong with it, this is something that's just utterly glaring. Bethesda must have some of the most inept writers to contrive that piece of shit they call a story. And the Enclave Base part was really just the worst of it all. Malcolm McDowell is such a cool mother fucker, and they ruin his character. Just like they took Patrick Stewart and gave him some terrible lines to work with, and made Sean Bean equally as boring. They pick up all of my favorite actors and make them do the worst shit.
Fuck it, I say, put a green screen behind Malcolm and have him dance around the fucking wasteland beating the shit out of things. It would be the best video game ever.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Alphadrop said:
Would be funny seeing Luke convince the Emporer to blow up the deathstar after a short conversation though.

If Bethesda did it;

Luke "Emperor, you have to stop it."

Emperor Palpatine "Nonsense my young friend, clearly you can see that I am the best choice for order and stability in the galaxy."

Luke "You can't force people to serve you."

Emperor Palpatine "But I have the Force and this battlestation."

Luke "But it is wrong, can't you see that."

Emperor Palpatine "Hmm, very well, I will blow up the Death Star II once you and Vader have left it."

:mrgreen: :clap:

"Goood my young apprentice, good"
 
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