Fallout 4 New San Francisco

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Who thinks when FO4 is released they will make a spin off like Fallout New Vegas,who take place in San Francisco?I think they will make this.
 
Actually Obsidian was suggesting Los Angeles but I would much rather see Denver with nearby Boulder and Colorado Springs.
I could imagine this as some sort of frontier town where prospectors and adventurers come to find their luck.
 
But San Francisco already appeared in Fallout 2.... And it wasn't called New San Francisco.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Actually Obsidian was suggesting Los Angeles but I would much rather see Denver with nearby Boulder and Colorado Springs.
I could imagine this as some sort of frontier town where prospectors and adventurers come to find their luck.
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I want to either see Utah based around the Mormons of New Jerusalem/ New Canaan (Fallout: Babylon), or Arizona based around the fall of the Legion and Hubbologists based out of Bloomfield Space Center (Fallout: Invictus). But I wouldn't mind Boulder/ Denver- basically, I just want to see more stuff from Van Buren.
 
I wold love a Fallout game that would bridge the midwest with the west, so we have the Midwest BoS fighting with the Legion remnants and then maybe the NCR. Or they could go all out and ask you at the beginning of the game how you resolved New Vegas and continue from there. That could potentially be a very interesting setting.
 
What about a fight over Cheyenne Mountain? It would assume an NCR victory in New Vegas, with the NCR moving out to colorado. Essentially the Calculator, with drones attacking the Midwestern BoS and the NCR out of the utterly destroyed Cheyenne Mountain complex, with clues leading the PC to believe that someone is still alive in there.
 
I like Fallout Tactics but I agree with the Fallout1/2 developers (and perhaps FNV) that the Calculator, Vault Zero, the robots, and so on are non canon, and that Cheyenne Mountain was blasted into a deep glowing crater full of glowing ones.
So no, no possible second incarnation of the Calculator or a NCR/Mid West Brotherhood war as part of the main plot campaign. (To be honest I am kind of tired of campaign settings that revolve around a war of some kind, Fallout 3 had one and FNV had one)

My idea is that after the NCR annexed the Mojave (they took Hoover Dam but failed to annex New Vegas because of either Mr House or Yes Man) the NCR's expansion into the East mostly stopped. They don't have the numbers to fully expand into the new territories in the East that were opened when the Legion lost the Second Battle of Hoover Dam (and Caesar, Legate Lanius, or both were killed) and were forced to retreat.

Places like Fort Denver are these rare locations where the NCR may have a presence but they don't control the complete former state or all of the Region for that matter.
They mostly set up a base or outpost here to watch over the railway tracks leading back to NCR territory that transport recovered resources such as pre war items and construction material.

I imagine Colorado Springs being this heavily irradiated place full of strange radioactive lifeforms that can not be found anywhere else.
To bad the Dome is already done because I would have loved to have seen the Boulder Dome, this complex with all kinds of futuristic technologies that is almost completely sealed of from the outside and is still being run by a group of scientists.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
I like Fallout Tactics but I agree with the Fallout1/2 developers (and perhaps FNV) that the Calculator, Vault Zero, the robots, and so on are non canon, and that Cheyenne Mountain was blasted into a deep glowing crater full of glowing ones.
So no, no possible second incarnation of the Calculator or a NCR/Mid West Brotherhood war as part of the main plot campaign. (To be honest I am kind of tired of campaign settings that revolve around a war of some kind, Fallout 3 had one and FNV had one)
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I was thinking the complex was fairly destroyed but extends for miles underground. While the mountains still belch radioactive smoke to this day there is enough left underground to make it wroth looting for the Brotherhood. U
 
Walpknut said:
But San Francisco already appeared in Fallout 2.... And it wasn't called New San Francisco.
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It'd be pretty awesome to revisit old Fallout locations in a 3D open world with more detail though. The Boneyard would be pretty awesome to set the game, you could add Hollywood and other places that weren't in Fallout 1.
 
I really don't think a 3D open world, with current tech, does any justice to locations we saw in previous games. We would just see through the abstractions in a more obvious way, so immersion wise I think it would be just as disappointing as 3 and NV were in that aspect.
Having said this, I would like to revisit them, even despite not believing there'd be any visual justice to do, just for the sake of story, maybe look how they settled initially or how they progressed later. They are probably NCR by the time of NV.
 
Oppen said:
I really don't think a 3D open world, with current tech, does any justice to locations we saw in previous games. We would just see through the abstractions in a more obvious way, so immersion wise I think it would be just as disappointing as 3 and NV were in that aspect.
Having said this, I would like to revisit them, even despite not believing there'd be any visual justice to do, just for the sake of story, maybe look how they settled initially or how they progressed later. They are probably NCR by the time of NV.
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New Vegas had that problem of the Strip not really living up to their concept and idea of how it would be like. But with the graphics of Fallout 4, I think they can definitely do it justice.
 
helios1 said:
New Vegas had that problem of the Strip not really living up to their concept and idea of how it would be like. But with the graphics of Fallout 4, I think they can definitely do it justice.
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The Strip's problem wasn't graphics - aethetically, it looked incredible. The problem was the massive gates and walls inside it. While it may not initially appear so, they degrade the entire place's look in several levels. And they exist because the Gamebryo engine was seriously outdated. Downloading a mod that makes the Strip a single open space shows that - it's an absolute hog to run unless you have a really good PC or use it alongside a clutter removal mod, but the visual difference is stunning. The design consistency makes it looks so much more impressive. If New Vegas had been done on a more modern engine, then for sure the Strip would have looked as amazing as its design warranted.
 
Stone Cold Robert House said:
helios1 said:
New Vegas had that problem of the Strip not really living up to their concept and idea of how it would be like. But with the graphics of Fallout 4, I think they can definitely do it justice.
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The Strip's problem wasn't graphics - aethetically, it looked incredible. The problem was the massive gates and walls inside it. While it may not initially appear so, they degrade the entire place's look in several levels. And they exist because the Gamebryo engine was seriously outdated. Downloading a mod that makes the Strip a single open space shows that - it's an absolute hog to run unless you have a really good PC or use it alongside a clutter removal mod, but the visual difference is stunning. The design consistency makes it looks so much more impressive. If New Vegas had been done on a more modern engine, then for sure the Strip would have looked as amazing as its design warranted.
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I have the Freeside and Strip open mod and they really do make a huge difference. But even then you look at New Vegas' concept art and the city looks absolutely massive, but realistically they wouldn't be able to do that. Still I think Los Angeles can look really good on the next gen. It would be badass seeing the "skeletons" of the skyscrapers that Fallout describes to you but doesn't really show on screen. I'd imagine it like the distant buildings in the Pitt but with much more buildings.
 
I'd like to see a more "frontier" region from before the war. Northern Mexico or Southern Canada. Probably plenty of interesting stories to tell about what the Pre-War USA was up to there, and lots of scope for interesting factions, new and old.
 
I keep saying it, place the game in a post apocalyptic Savannah, not a wasteland. Make it all a little more hotile, maybe set it a little back in the timeline too.
 
Logically, I think Bethesda is most likely to do another east coast location. Obsidian - if they actually did get the chance - would most likely choose something in the NCR republic. I want to say Colorado would be a safe bet since they did go at length mentioning it, but they also threw us a bone about Chicago.

I can see Miami being a good location. It would at least be something Bethesda might consider with it being on their side of the country. At this point I want the new Fallout games as far away from California as possible.
 
I think they could revisit Florida and reuse some of the Tactics 2 ideas. A mutated GECK turning the wasteland into a dangerous jungle sounds like an interesting premise if polished a bit and done right. It would be a nice change from the usual dead wastelands.
 
I personally think that Bethesda will just tease and hint at something in a different area (my money is on philadelphia) and just do basically what they are doing with fallout 4 right now.
 
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