Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
For all servicemen and women who have helped keep the wolf away from the door for over 200 years.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Happy Veterans Day!
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Water Chip? Been There, Done That
wtf alec? you'd have prefered to sieg heil to the kaiser and speak german? 
no way to tell how that would've worked out, of course... but i don't know many people that lament winning over an invader.
no way to tell how that would've worked out, of course... but i don't know many people that lament winning over an invader.
Meh.
I wish the Huns or the Mongols had finished us off long before that. Preferably the Huns, seeing they were atheists and all.
Also: Hitler was an okay dude. He invented the question mark and loved Bambi. See:
Nah, seriously: after WW2, America started to dominate the world. I don't see how that was a positive change. At all. And I mean it.
I wish the Huns or the Mongols had finished us off long before that. Preferably the Huns, seeing they were atheists and all.
Also: Hitler was an okay dude. He invented the question mark and loved Bambi. See:
Nah, seriously: after WW2, America started to dominate the world. I don't see how that was a positive change. At all. And I mean it.
alec said:
In Canada the day was created originally to celebrate the end of WWI. Has nothing to do with American cultural imperialism.
The fact of the matter is that these men gave their lives for something noble and abstract, and have damn well earned at least one day of remembrance.
alec said:
I'm sorry your anarchism got crushed under the cold hard riding boot of reality that we humans aren't all that nice to each other some of the time.
Hats off to the doughboys. Hooah.
What was noble about ww1? What was noble about fighting for: British imperialism, that crappy piece of land between germany and france, russian continued domination of east europe, german imperialism and finally the austrian domination of the balkan peoples?rcorporon said:
I think ww1 should be remembered, but not because people that died there fought for something "noble."
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCvSc2b8CWc&feature=related[/youtube]
Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
fedaykin said:
Nice try but I refuse to get involved in politics on this topic.
It was a great day tho, I was able to finally get in touch with my buddy in Iraq. Had not talked to him in ages and I was glad to get the chance.
On a fun side note he had an interesting day yesterday he told me about, while going up in a Cobra gunship to get some target practice at a bunch of old cars they keep on base for that very reason they spotted a couple of Iraqis trying to steal car parts
My friend got some moving targets to shoot at that day
I cant wait to get out of college and get over there!
Anyways thanks again for those who had nice things to say, I expected there not to be any on this forum at all and you surprised me
.Carry on.
edit: Speaking of WW1, I am sure there is someone else here who appreciates Blackadder
A pretty emotional ending to a great comedy show that also was able to throw in a serious message about war.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ba-64h6d6Q[/youtube]
Actually, that was a semi-random word association that just popped into my head when I read the topic. I hadn't gotten any sleep at night.Bal-Sagoth said:fedaykin said:
Nice try but I refuse to get involved in politics on this topic.
This, however, makes you sound like one of those retarded military nuts. I mean, fuck...that's seriously why you want to go? To shoot at people? How does a guy like you get past the psychological exam, if there is one at all?Bal-Sagoth said:they spotted a couple of Iraqis trying to steal car parts
My friend got some moving targets to shoot at that day
I cant wait to get out of college and get over there!
Sieg heil? Kaiser? Dude you just got the two world wars greatly mixed up.SuAside said:wtf alec? you'd have prefered to sieg heil to the kaiser and speak german?
alec said:
have you no fucking decency?
euhm, you think "heil" was invented by Hitler or something?Dragula said:Sieg heil? Kaiser? Dude you just got the two world wars greatly mixed up.SuAside said:wtf alec? you'd have prefered to sieg heil to the kaiser and speak german?
no, i'm quite aware of both world wars and the differences between them, thank you very much.
Last time I checked: no.SuAside said:
I suck at History. I'm a "look-it-up-in-the-books-or-the-interwebz-if- you-desperately-want-to-know" kind of guy.
Sometimes I still date my correspondence with 2007. That should say enough.
All in all, though, WWI and WWII followed each other pretty quickly. What's twenty, twenty-five years, eh?
Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
fedaykin said:
They were criminals, they got what they deserve. Live by the sword, die by the sword and all that jazz.
I do not only want to join for that reason alone but I will be lying if I did not say the way he described it sounded very entertaining. He said it was one of the biggest rushes he had ever experienced.
Besides that is not the point, You apparently have not talked to a lot of Marines if you have not heard more comments about "Har har I like to shoot me some Hadjis" or "The only thing I feel when I kill an Iraqi is recoil".
As far as psychological exam no they do not have one but if you are found to be mentally unfit you will be discharged.
It is important to note however that an eagerness to kill is not grounds for discharge. Civilians do not apply of course and that is a whole different ball game but my story did not deal with civilians at all.
funny how a terrorist and soldier are so different these days.
Occupying a country, when the people have a negative response to your occupation. Therefore causing fear in the general populace. Using force as a means for peace
A terrorist, being part of an opposing force, people also have a negative response, using force as a means for peace.
One has higher grade technology, the other uses maybe more underhanded techniques. What's worse, being open about your killings and using god as a crutch(i.e terrorists) or carpet bombing civilians to make a point about 9/11 and wmds and using the public and past greivances as a crutch(soldiers). In my mind, they are both terrorists.
Funny how the world has a different opinion.
Occupying a country, when the people have a negative response to your occupation. Therefore causing fear in the general populace. Using force as a means for peace
A terrorist, being part of an opposing force, people also have a negative response, using force as a means for peace.
One has higher grade technology, the other uses maybe more underhanded techniques. What's worse, being open about your killings and using god as a crutch(i.e terrorists) or carpet bombing civilians to make a point about 9/11 and wmds and using the public and past greivances as a crutch(soldiers). In my mind, they are both terrorists.
Funny how the world has a different opinion.
Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
I will step down from my War Hawk/Warmonger attitude and agree to both above statements that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
I supported both wars just for the simple reason I wanted the followers of radical Islam and the families of the followers to suffer as much as humanly possible.
That being said the time to leave Iraq is now, The leaders are beginning to assert themselves and violence has plummeted after the surge. To quote Obama (and if he says it you know it must be true!) Obama: Surge Succeeded Beyond 'Wildest Dreams'
Sadly Afghanistan is a very different ballpark.
I supported both wars just for the simple reason I wanted the followers of radical Islam and the families of the followers to suffer as much as humanly possible.
That being said the time to leave Iraq is now, The leaders are beginning to assert themselves and violence has plummeted after the surge. To quote Obama (and if he says it you know it must be true!
) Obama: Surge Succeeded Beyond 'Wildest Dreams'Sadly Afghanistan is a very different ballpark.