Israel Seeks All Clear for Iran Air Strike

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So even if the Pentagon is unwilling to go all out against the Iranians, the Israelis are less squeamish.


Israel Seeks All Clear for Iran Air Strike
By Con Coughlin
The Telegraph UK

Saturday 24 February 2007

Tel Aviv - Israel is negotiating with the United States for permission to fly over Iraq as part of a plan to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

To conduct surgical air strikes against Iran's nuclear programme, Israeli war planes would need to fly across Iraq. But to do so the Israeli military authorities in Tel Aviv need permission from the Pentagon.
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I say go for it. Let the Israelis do the deed. The Iranians are saying there was no holocaust and promising destruction if Israel, this looks like preemptive self-defense.

We can quibble about the legality of preemptive strikes.

A senior Israeli defence official said negotiations were now underway between the two countries for the US-led coalition in Iraq to provide an "air corridor" in the event of the Israeli government deciding on unilateral military action to prevent Teheran developing nuclear weapons.

"We are planning for every eventuality, and sorting out issues such as these are crucially important," said the official, who asked not to be named.

"The only way to do this is to fly through US-controlled air space. If we don't sort these issues out now we could have a situation where American and Israeli war planes start shooting at each other."
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Which would be bad.

As Iran continues to defy UN demands to stop producing material which could be used to build a nuclear bomb, Israel's military establishment is moving on to a war footing, with preparations now well under way for the Jewish state to launch air strikes against Teheran if diplomatic efforts fail to resolve the crisis.

The pace of military planning in Israel has accelerated markedly since the start of this year after Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, provided a stark intelligence assessment that Iran, given the current rate of progress being made on its uranium enrichment programme, could have enough fissile material for a nuclear warhead by 2009.

Last week Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, announced that he had persuaded Meir Dagan, the head of Mossad for the past six years and one of Israel's leading experts on Iran's nuclear programme, to defer his retirement until at least the end of next year.

Mr Olmert has also given overall control of the military aspects of the Iran issue to Eliezer Shkedi, the head of the Israeli Air Force and a former F-16 fighter pilot.

The international community will increase the pressure on Iran when senior officials from the five permanent of the United Nations Security Council and Germany meet at an emergency summit to be held in London on Monday.

Iran ignored a UN deadline of last Wednesday to halt uranium enrichment. Officials will discuss arms controls and whether to cut back on the $25 billion-worth of export credits which are used by European companies to trade with Iran.

A high-ranking British source said: "There is a debate within the six countries on sanctions and economic measures."

British officials insist that this "incremental" approach of tightening the pressure on Iran is starting to turn opinion within Iran. One source said: "We are on the right track. There is time for diplomacy to take effect."
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That's what was said about North Korea.
 
I say go for it. Let the Israelis do the deed. The Iranians are saying there was no holocaust and promising destruction if Israel, this looks like preemptive self-defense.

We can quibble about the legality of preemptive strikes.
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Agh. Man, you lose 10 Woozie Respect Points. Seriously, I'm severely dissapointed in what you just wrote.

Preemptive self defense. Yeah, let's just start a regional war involving Israel, Iran, India, Pakistan and everything in between. Oh, did I mention Pakistan, India and Israel have nukes?

Fucking GREAT idea, man.
 
air corridor? lol, last time the Israelis flew in all stealthlike, why wouldn't they do it again?
 
Note: Pretty much only the Iranian government denies the holocaust etc. the Iranian people are pretty decent (this comes first hand - I'm half Iranian). And also, a regional war would be a terrible, terrible thing.
 
Also note that while they do ask the Americans permission to fly over Iraq, they don't even bother asking the Syrians or the Jordanians the same. How's that for respect for your neighbours?
 
I doubt either the Syrians or the Jordanians can do very much about what the Israelis plan to do.

As for pre-emptive self-defense. What is pre-emptive self defense really when you are a country the size of Israel, where the Iranians have made it pretty clear that they wish to do nasty things to the Israelis and the Israeli's have a history of this kind of thing (see '67 war).

Pre-emptive- hell the US pissed that away in the most recent Iraq war.

Honestly, I wonder if the reason why Saudi Arabia is interested in nukes is because Iran wants them. And Pakistan has them for the Indians, and the Indians have them because its nationalism.

Would all of this spill over between Israel and Iran into a war? Maybe. But I doubt it would last very long.

Would the other countries get involved with the risk that they could be causing themselves a world of hurt for a shady notion of pan-Islam? I doubt it.
 
It must suck to be Iranian and read this kind of news...
 
I'm sure that if the arabic nations had the west's power, they'd nuke the hell out of all mcdonald's holding countries (i know many arabs eat at mcd, but that's not the point, at least for them).

There will be a war, if the gain power. We have no use for arabs, do we? US nuked Japan and look how much good it's done to that country.

INVASION !
 
Welsh said:
Would all of this spill over between Israel and Iran into a war? Maybe. But I doubt it would last very long.
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Regime-change Russian roulette, in a sea of mushroom clouds.

Quick & Easy!


Would the other countries get involved with the risk that they could be causing themselves a world of hurt for a shady notion of pan-Islam? I doubt it.
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It would probably forge that "shady notion" into solid reality.

Christ, people, have you been fed Retard Burgers lately? Didn't you learn a single thing from the clusterfuck you've got yourselves in Iraq? You know, the whole "You can start a war whenever you want, but wars don't end as you please" thing?
 
Wooz i have been to IRAQ an its as bad as it seams on TV what stops Soldiers from doing there job quickly an efficiently is political correctness an lack or resources, an (at least in the British case) is a lack of required equipment. if i missed the point of your last post i am sorry but I cant stand seeing any one slag of the troops over there.
 
Muff said:
Wooz i have been to IRAQ an its as bad as it seams on TV what stops Soldiers from doing there job quickly an efficiently is political correctness an lack or resources, an (at least in the British case) is a lack of required equipment. if i missed the point of your last post i am sorry but I cant stand seeing any one slag of the troops over there.
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Yeah, because any criticism of the military policy in Iraq is being an unpatriotic hippy who hates the troops.

Pft.
 
Muff said:
if i missed the point of your last post i am sorry but I cant stand seeing any one slag of the troops over there.
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You did. You also missed the "spellcheck" button.
 
Sorry Wooz I am just in a bad mood.

Sander criticism is great an is the duty of every one who has something to say but I consider the current military policy is a joke.
 
monsharen said:
It must suck to be Iranian and read this kind of news...
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Which is why I really, really hope that, if a war is to start, it starts whilst my grandparents are in England.
 
Sander said:
Muff said:
Wooz i have been to IRAQ an its as bad as it seams on TV what stops Soldiers from doing there job quickly an efficiently is political correctness an lack or resources, an (at least in the British case) is a lack of required equipment. if i missed the point of your last post i am sorry but I cant stand seeing any one slag of the troops over there.
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Yeah, because any criticism of the military policy in Iraq is being an unpatriotic hippy who hates the troops.

Pft.
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Not that the military personel in Iraq can be let completely off the hook. What, with the shooting and the torturing and the abuse of innocents etc.
 
The Order's Pet Parrot said:
Not that the military personel in Iraq can be let completely off the hook. What, with the shooting and the torturing and the abuse of innocents etc.
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Communist Hippie!!

*cough*

Anyway, welsh, I think you're being a bit...provocative with the 'let's bomb the shit out of them statements', but whatever. Here's what I found most interesting about your post:

welsh said:
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British officials insist that this "incremental" approach of tightening the pressure on Iran is starting to turn opinion within Iran. One source said: "We are on the right track. There is time for diplomacy to take effect."
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That's what was said about North Korea.
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They did? If so, North Korea is an entirely different matter. North Korea already has an oppressed people that are probably completely unhappy. US threats aren't going to change much about that, nor are they going to get the Koreans to rally and overthrow the government. Korea actually needs foreign intervention to change (that, or a lot of contact with South Korea).
Iran, on the other hand, has a semi-democratic government with a largely satisfied and relatively modern people. The two situations are incomparable, population wise.
 
Wooz said:
I say go for it. Let the Israelis do the deed. The Iranians are saying there was no holocaust and promising destruction if Israel, this looks like preemptive self-defense.

We can quibble about the legality of preemptive strikes.
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Agh. Man, you lose 10 Woozie Respect Points. Seriously, I'm severely dissapointed in what you just wrote.

Preemptive self defense. Yeah, let's just start a regional war involving Israel, Iran, India, Pakistan and everything in between. Oh, did I mention Pakistan, India and Israel have nukes?

Fucking GREAT idea, man.
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I'm gonna make a nuclear bunker in my backyard. Need to collect lots of canned food, a ripper, a gauss rifle and some Adv. Power Armour MkII.

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