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Throatpunch

Throatpunch

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Used to do loads and loads of Judo, but my mate ripped his groin muscle and dislocated his shoulder. Still hasn't gotten better. I plan to go back sometime, I love stuff like that.
 
Never done anything (unless you count Rugby), but I'll try boxing this year. And HEMA.
 
Taek-Wondo (sp?). Fitness boxing (actually just got new gloves). School yard scraps and bar scraps. That's about it.

The way I see it, if you're a strong guy, just by lifting weights etc., on average you'll win the fights if you know any moves at all. Good to know some moves well. "Rather then train 10 000 kicks, train one kick 10 000 times" - Bruce Lee.

A jiujitsu or judo specialist can arm lock me or leg lock me or choke me but they still need to get close enough, and be fast and strong enough.

Also if a fight drags on, cardio becomes a factor. Good to bring a full 'gas tank' into the fight.
 
I did some wrestling for a little bit a few years back. Got some trophies and stuff. Was pretty fun but the uniforms were annoying and gay as hell.
 
Used to practicing ju jutsu when i was 13, then i quit somewhen in high school
HEMA, for two year based of the recommendation from my friend in LaRP. i own a set of gambeson and a supposedly Sipahi inspired plated mail armor, the latter being quite expensive.

Also.. Archery and horse riding; mean fun! i'm doing turkish archery particularly, i'm looking forward to try every single technique it got, really cool.

Like this for instance, shooting a bow with sword ready on the hand;

 
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Throatpunch said:
Post here if you have ever done or do martial arts

Used to do loads and loads of Judo, but my mate ripped his groin muscle and dislocated his shoulder. Still hasn't gotten better. I plan to go back sometime, I love stuff like that.
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Now you're talking about a real problem for Judo ... many people kinda stop when they don't get a decent partner - understandantly.

I did some Judo and Jiu for a while, and I also tried Karathe and Wing Chun - but really, nothing serious! Judo was probably the one I did the most, with 2 or 3 years. But at somep point I really lost interest.

When it comes to martial arts, it's funny how many people have some opinion like as what is the best.

In my opinion, there is no best martial arts. Just goals. What do you want to achieve? And what is the most fun for you? I would never suggest someone to go and learn Judo if his goal is self defence and self defence ONLY. But if you just want fun with a good partner? Judo might be for you. In the end, you have to find the martial arts that is the most fun for YOU. And that is different for everyone.
 
Crni Vuk said:
I would never suggest someone to go and learn Judo if his goal is self defence and self defence ONLY..
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Not entirely true. Usually, proper savage fights are a rarity and judo can be useful, just throw someone and its over before its even started.

I admit, I am a bit of a macho confrontational dickhead IRL who ends up in fights more often than not and it does come in handy.
 
I didn't say that Judo doesn't contain self defence. But there are better martial arts if your goal is only self defence. That's simply a fact. I practised Judo and I loved it. But I realized how limited it is, when it came to something that was a bit more realistic.

When I attented a mixed-martial-arts course by a police officer who invited people from all kinds of different schools I realized how useless Judo can be in an actuall fight. Most fights, are usually very fast and don't last particularly long. Particularly if both oponents know what they are doing. And Judo is simply from it's structure not a martial arts that is aiming at 'destroying' your oponent to say that, which is big difference to Wing Chun or Jiu where one idea is to disable your oponent as quickly as possible.

I remember we had this one situation where I did this sparring with someone, I can't remember anymore what he practised, but it wasn't Judo. The moment we got on the ground I tried to get him in a joint lock, but he attacked my ribs with his elbow before I had a chance to get him in a succesfull join lock, and I had to simply let go of him because of the pain. I was completely sure, if that was actually a 'realistic' situation, he would have simply broken my rips.

One big problem, that can come with martial arts, is the hubris that you're effective with everything and everyone, just because of your training. But the problem is, if you ever get in a serious situation, you don't have much room for errors.

But I always give people the advice, that they should learn the style they like the most. It is really that simple. Because if you like it, you most probably will stick to it and actually get really good with it, I mean yeah, someone who has practises Judo for 20 years with a decent trainer, will most probably beat someone who has done Wing Chun for maybe 3 or 4 months. But, throw people with equal experience against each other ... and I wouldn't be so sure the outcome would be the same. Simply beacuse Judo was never meant to be a martial arts purely self defence in mind.

You know, Bruce Lee once said, it's better to train the same kick 10 000 times, than to train 10 000 different kicks.
 
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Yea it's true. Also, cops don't really even care about fights, which is kind of alarming really. I mean, plenty of fights on weekends when bars are closing etc. and no court cases ever come out of those. Actual self defence situations can be a lot sketchier then a safe fight in a gym.
 
That's another thing! A lot of people get in fights when they are drunk (duh!), and you know how much martial arts is worth when you're drunk? It kinda levels the playing field literaly. There are a lot of people out there, that can be pretty effective, even if they never learned any martial arts, why? Because they get in a lot of fights. I met those, and they are savages. Unless you're into one of those really brutal things, like Muay Thai or something and looking like a death machine, you should still be carefull who're you're messing with.
 
kung fu when a kid, tae kwon do as teen, wouldn't say I know either of the two, at all. The kung fu class had black outfits though, that was sooooooo coooooooooool

and crni, what you're saying is both obvious and mindblowing at the same time, depending who you talk to. Some people think learning an established martial art school is some kind of ticket into never-defeatedness, as if the moves and tricks are like off-switches to someone elses health. At the end of the day, a winner of a fight is usually the one who gets the first solid punch in. Most normal people aren't prepared to take a well landed punch, we will crumble like a house of cards and further destroy our heads against pavements or furniture. Real life fights are typically very fast, and very un-elegant, as well as bone chilling in many cases...
So often, people are surprised by this.

Another thing is that - if you have like yellow belt or whatever, you don't know the art. If you have karate, yellow belt, you don't know karate, you know how to flail a fist around. That's why I would never claim to know tae kwon do. I know how to flail and kick and say "huss! huss!" while I do it.

Huss, huss, huss!
Once you can flaunt a black belt, that's the exam. Now you can say "I know taw kwon do! Huss, huss!"
Even then, someone may sucker-punch you right to the hospital
 
Yea there's a lot of stuff in Taekwondo that's a bit, well, non-essential. Repeating the same defensive moves etc.

I had a bad trainer in Taekwondo, he seemed to know his stuff but evidently got a little too involved with some of his underage female students. Ended up in prison. So, yea. It's a little weird to have learned 'moves' from a guy like that. Anyway, unfortunately there's a LOT of a-holes even in the 'official' circles of martial arts. Some good folks, some bad folks. Some learn some moves and go look for fights etc.
 
MutantScalper said:
I had a bad trainer in Taekwondo, he seemed to know his stuff but evidently got a little too involved with some of his underage female students. Ended up in prison.
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That made me lol... :D
I loved staring at the loosely dressed girls during training :V Then again, I was a horny teen myself, and had no professional responsability :D

I still remember the name of our kung fu trainer, Master Dang Tieu Diep, Vietnamese fellow (not exactly authentic tibetan monkey-style master), dude is hard as nails though, long story about Vietnam-war tragedies and such
As teens we used to giggle at him having been robbed "not much of a kick-ass mo-fo, eh!" then I grew up and thought dude, anyone can be robbed - then heard it was a home invasion while he was away

NOW, come to think of it - in my service I shared room with a tae kwon do black belt! His girlfriend was ALSO a tae kwon do black belt. He told me he was once walking with his girlfriend, and Trondheim's ONLY mugger - and unluckiest mugger - tried to mug them, with a fucking knife! This shit never happens! Incredible bad luck! This guy is no braggart either, cus I dragged humiliating stories out of him, like how he actually screamed like a woman, and cried, when a small propellar plane he travelled in, was wobbling fiercely during a storm

This guy was attempted mugged, he told the mugger as sincerely as he could "don't do this... you don't want to do this... "
The mugger was baffled, and opted to kick him, instead of stabbing, to which my friend reacted by pure reflex - caught the muggers leg, and karate-chopped the femur in half.
I asked if it made a sound. He said it made a loud, dry clapping noise, and seemed to allready be suffering with the memory. I laughed.
He told me both he and his girlfriend remained with the sobbing mugger, comforted him, and waited for the ambulance with him.
 
zegh8578 said:
Another thing is that - if you have like yellow belt or whatever, you don't know the art. If you have karate, yellow belt, you don't know karate, you know how to flail a fist around. That's why I would never claim to know tae kwon do. I know how to flail and kick and say "huss! huss!" while I do it.
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Actually in most martial arts where you get 'belts', the black belt just marks the point when you actually become a student. When I learned that, it literaly blow my mind. But it makes sense. Beacuse from the theory, the moment you receive a black belt is the moment when you actually know ALL basic techniques of your martial arts style and where you now can actually start to learn/develope 'new' stuff. The colours are also a relatively new invention. In the past you got a white belt and at some point your trainer would say, yeup you're good, here is a black one which is also called the 1. Dan from maybe 9 others you can get, 10 is most of the time reserved for the 'perfect' being which no one can achieve, in Judo for example if I remember it correctly the 10th Dan is reserved for the founder of Judo Jigoro Kano which he also received after his death, there is still some stuff from him on youtube the guy has some serious control over his movements and balance.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Actually in most martial arts where you get 'belts', the black belt just marks the point when you actually become a student. When I learned that, it literaly blow my mind. But it makes sense. Beacuse from the theory, the moment you receive a black belt is the moment when you actually know ALL basic techniques of your martial arts style and where you now can actually start to learn/develope 'new' stuff. The colours are also a relatively new invention. In the past you got a white belt and at some point your trainer would say, yeup you're good, here is a black one which is also called the 1. Dan from maybe 9 others you can get, 10 is most of the time reserved for the 'perfect' being which no one can achieve, in Judo for example if I remember it correctly the 10th Dan is reserved for the founder of Judo Jigoro Kano which he also received after his death, there is still some stuff from him on youtube the guy has some serious control over his movements and balance.
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Yes, it was kind of my point :D
I expressed it a bit vaguely I guess, but yes, it only really begins at the black belt, and anything prior is basically just being told to make a fist, and wave it around in predetermined patterns.

You're also right about the colors, not only a new invention - but an American one. Like the Chinese restaurant menu - the menu you'll get in Belgrade, Trondheim, Madrid - that universal menu :D
 
Throatpunch said:
Not entirely true. Usually, proper savage fights are a rarity and judo can be useful, just throw someone and its over before its even started.

I admit, I am a bit of a macho confrontational dickhead IRL who ends up in fights more often than not and it does come in handy.
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every fight I've ever been in is the other guy savagely throwing everything he has at me. very unorganized and unpredictable. I guess things are just more civilized in the UK.
 
I still remember what one of the (good, not pedo) trainers told me, "after the Taekwondo training class it's good to go straight to the gym". Meaning the tkd-skills alone won't do any good if you dont' have the muscle to back it up with.
 
R.Graves said:
every fight I've ever been in is the other guy savagely throwing everything he has at me. very unorganized and unpredictable. I guess things are just more civilized in the UK.
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Depends on your definition of fight.

What I might think of as a bit of a ruckus you might think of as a scrum. Its all personally subjective.
 
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