Our hard drives will never turn floppy again... :(

Ratty Sr.

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http://www.examiner.com/x-16352-Jap...y-to-discontinue-35-inch-floppy-disk-in-Japan

Sony announced on April 23rd that they will be discontinuing sales of the classic 3.5 inch floppy disk in Japan in 2011. The news marks a major end to a nearly three decade history of the disk type that the company helped to pioneer.

According to Sony, they introduced the 3.5 inch floppy disk size to the world in 1981, and began sales within Japan in 1983. Sony had shipped approximately 47 million disks within the country at its peak around the year 2000, but that number had fallen to around 8.5 million by 2009, Sankei News reported.

In 2008 Sony accounted for around 40% of the world’s market share in 3.5 inch floppy disks, Nikkei wrote; within Japan, Sony has held about 70% of the market share in recent years, the Asahi added.

Sony will stop sales within Japan in March of 2011, and with the exception of a few niche markets such as in India, the company’s worldwide sales finished in March of this year, the Mainichi stated. Sony ceased its outsourced production of the 3.5 inch floppy in 2009. It is also noted that most other major manufacturers of the disk type have already withdrawn from the market entirely.

Lack of demand was stated as the major reason for the decision, with many pointing to the rapid expansion of other media saving methods, such as CDs, DVDs, and USB drives, as well as a significant decrease in floppy disk-supporting hardware.

Beyond the floppy, the 3.5 inch size is still used for Sony’s magneto optical disks.
:(

This is the definite end of another great era in the history of computers. Well, that is not entirely true, as for most of us that era ended long ago. I personally fully switched to optical media in 2001 or so, when I got my first CD burner, and as of 2006 I barely even use those and instead favor USB drives and file hosting services. I think 2002 or 2003 may have been the last time I used a floppy disk. I do still know some people who still use floppies occasionally - for example, my Mum, who is an accountant and finds floppies more convenient for submitting accounting data to government services like the revenue service or the statistical office.

But still, heyday of the 3.5" floppy disk was in the early-to-mid '90s. So many fond gaming memories from that era are inextricably tied to the floppy. Like those disks that used to come with gaming publications, filled to the brim with neat shareware games like this one. Or when games started growing in size and spanning multiple disks (I still remember that TES: Arena shipped on jaw-dropping nine disks). That triumphant feeling when we figured out how to use pkzip to create multi-part, fixed-size archives, which enabled us to share this amazing new shoot 'em up everyone was talking about... I think it was called Doom or something... :D

Then there was the rise of CD-rips - i.e. versions of CD-based games with multimedia content like music and video ripped out, with the purpose of making them small enough to distribute on floppy disks or pirate CD compilations. I still have a few of those collecting dust in my closet, containing brilliant gems like Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Warcraft II, C&C, GTA (the original!) and loads of others. Usually I or one of my friends would buy a compilation and then share individual games with everybody else on - you guessed it - floppy disks. But for some games even their rips were pretty big - for example, Need For Speed: SE spanned about 50 floppies even with all music removed. As anyone who has used floppies will remember, when you have that many floppies, chances are at least one of them will contain a bad sector or two. Back in 1996, a friend of mine desperately wanted NFS:SE, but he had a 486 laptop without an optical drive, so it took us a couple of tries before we managed to get 50 demonstrably functional disks together and finally copy the game to his system. But then more and more games started appearing which were too huge for floppies even with music and video ripped out - again Bethesda broke new grounds with Daggerfall, which took up a whole CD, and almost all of it was game data.

Man, things sure have changed since then. Gone are the days when we trotted merrily to school or to our friends' places while carrying plastic bags full of floppy disks. There was a certain passion in gaming back then, but it's gone now. Nowadays you share games by sending people torrent or RapidShare links. It's all so cold and impersonal, and I can't even recall the last time I had a gaming-and-pizza session with my buddies. Come to think of it, barely any of my real-life buddies are still gamers after all these years. It isn't just gaming that has grown up, but us gamers have as well, it seems.
 
I have a hard time thinking of 3.5-inch disks as "floppy" - they have a hard casing, do they not? Now the 5.25-inch disks of the C64, those were floppy.
 
Professor Danger! said:
I remember having my 3.5 disks always become corrupted at school. I hated them.
Haha same here, when I needed them they very well never seemed to work.

I also used to compress them to gain more storage, this might have been the reason for the corruption.
 
I can't say how many times floppies saved my computer's ass these years. The bootup disk saved me many times from some corruptions in Windows, and I could make a backup, format the system drive, and restore the system thanks to the floppy.

I also used to play some DOS games last year on a weekend because Windows screwed up too. :lol: If it weren't for the bootup disk.

Also, a friend of mine once stupidly created a folder with the name of a system file. Windows couldn't start, and I said, well, let's bootup with a floppy and delete the folder. There was no Floppy drive. :shock: Damn new computers. The impatient bastard did a clean format instead of waiting to get a new way to boot and erase the folder. :roll:

I remember the time when I bought my first USB pendrive, I was so excited for not having to use floppies anymore. I remember comparing a 1GB USB stick with 750 floppy disks in one tiny thing that wouldn't be corrupted so easily. :D

Well, we'll miss you floppy drives, but at least you won't frustrate me anymore with your bad sectors.
 
Time goes on and so do we. Floppys were good once, now they are outdated and we need to go on, regretting anything would be futile.
 
Hey, if good floppy disks get rare in the future, I'll save mine. :D Maybe some crazy collector will start paying up thousands for them.
 
Heh, i had few of those corrupted school related floppys, and man did it break my nerve. I didnt like cd:s much either, propably even less due their sensitivity to scratches and smudges.

Now usb pen drives, those are ok. Havent had many issues with them yet, other than them allways being missing under some piles of useless junk.
 
I have never had a corrupted floppy disk. Guess I'm just lucky. I haven't even seen floppy disks for sale in awhile, but I'm not really looking for them.
 
Per said:
I have a hard time thinking of 3.5-inch disks as "floppy" - they have a hard casing, do they not? Now the 5.25-inch disks of the C64, those were floppy.
as floppy as your tail >_>

*youre a lizard afterall, dont they have tails ?


By the way would there have been realy any reason at all to keep floppy disks ? I mean I remember still times when we used to play games with floppy disks. But com on ... thats ... dunno stone age !


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the last time I used a floppy disk was 2007. Pen Drives already were cheap and available, but I guess technology gets more time to get popular here than in other parts of the world.

And mines were always corrupt. Always.
 
The last time I used a floppy would have been at the latest 2002 and that was just for high school. It's way past time for floppy disks to be completely phased out.

Ratty said:
It's all so cold and impersonal, and I can't even recall the last time I had a gaming-and-pizza session with my buddies. Come to think of it, barely any of my real-life buddies are still gamers after all these years. It isn't just gaming that has grown up, but us gamers have as well, it seems.

Buy a console :smug:
 
Good fucking riddance, I've had such bad experiences with those pieces of Frankensteinian hippo shit in school. Actual 5.25" floppies, on the other hand... Fuck yeah, those were awesome. I remember playing Frogger on my Commodore 64 off of one. Good times.
 
Leon said:
Good fucking riddance, I've had such bad experiences with those pieces of Frankensteinian hippo shit in school. Actual 5.25" floppies, on the other hand... Fuck yeah, those were awesome. I remember playing Frogger on my Commodore 64 off of one. Good times.

Indeed, and some of them had like 20 games on them. Not like these thingies today wich have only one.
 
They usually become corrupt by themselves, but I hat this 3.5 inch disc on which I drew with a pen (the inner soft part) and chewed very hard on the disc, and stomped on it with moderate force and somehow I could still use the diablo save files that were on the disc xD
 
Floppies have always been a fairly handy tool for computer enthousiasts such as myself.

Running memtest86+ (without wasting a CD to burn 2 megs), flashing a BIOS the oldskool way, etc.

Always a good tool for recovery upon system failure, but yeah, they're pretty much outdated and done for.

Too bad, but that's the way it goes with technology.
 
SuAside said:
Running memtest86+ (without wasting a CD to burn 2 megs)
Bootable USB drives can take care of that and more. Even an amazingly crappy Compaq from about '97 or '98 that I found was able to boot off of one. For seriously old skool stuff, though... Well, you should have a library of floppies to go along with that kind of thing anyways. :)
 
Bootable USB is a fairly new thing. A lot of hardware that's still around today does not support it, Leon.
 
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