RANDOM BOSD FNW 1.1.1.271

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tindrli

First time out of the vault
Hi to all.. i just had 4 BOSD while trying different combinations of what other suggested on this and other forums with no luck. i will try to be brief as possible and explain the problem.

First .. i had never ever ever ever ever had a blue screen of death before while playing a game only with fallout new vegas.. and in a last year i played every mayor title i think without any mayor issue what so ever

i install the game and start it .. all good... conversation with doctor good... no freezes no glitches no nothing .. great frame rate and sound and all... Now..
just after i got out of doctor house, down on the street i saw the VICTOR robot and i start the conversation first time i manage to speak with him until that question Do you know who were those people... and then BOSD. After that everytime i'm having BOSD right after i click E to speak with robot..
Now.. i wanted to take a picture with my mobile of the actual BOSD and DAMN.. i passed fast all conversation with VIctor without the DAMN BOSD by quick clicking with mouse !!! .. anyway.. can anyone help me?? coz im pretty sure that it will occurre again.
And it occured again.. i was in general store trying looking around and same BOSD appeared
I didn't try to speak with no one else beside doctor and robot

TODAY: 26.10.2010 25+ BOSD
Now the freaking BOSD is occurring in RANDOM between 3 and 10 mins no mater what i do


System spec
Win 7
AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual core 3600+ 2.03 GHz
ASROCK ALIVE SATA2 GLAN
3,00 GB RAM
8800 GT 512 RAM

Ingame Settings
Nvidia drivers 260.89_desktop_win7
Game version according to FalloutNV is 1.1.1.271
Downloaded and copyed to fallout new vegas folder d3d9dll-34778 *** had crash before and after aplying this dll***

All game settings Set to Medium
resolution 1920x1200
All water and shadows set to LOW
All save game options in game settings set to OFF
Ingame Vertical sync set to OFF
Nvidia control panel Vertical Sync FORCED OFF

Thanx in advance
Tindrli


P.D. 26.10.2010 Now its occuring even in the doctors house :(
 
since no one is replying i will try to say what i did

1. d3d9dll fix is not working for me
2. changing ingame resolution and quality options from all ranges from low to high .. not working
3. Updating Nvidia drivers 260.89_desktop_win7 not working
4. Updating to Nvidia drivers 260.99_desktop_win7 not working
5. Updating my REALTEK soundcard Ver. R253 not working
6. Updating all windows 7 x64 not working
7. Updating Direct X not working
8. Disabling AM2 Boost in BIOS not working
9. Downgrading nvidia drivers to 195.45 not working
10.Setting windowed mode and resolution 800x500 with all LOW not working
11.Updating my BIOS Not working

Now at the moment the only thing that occurs to me is
NOTTHING.. maybe something tomorow

pd. ah .. here is a BOSD picture if anyone wants to see it
its to big to post it as IMG so i will just link it
http://i52.tinypic.com/121ehk8.jpg
and as you all can se it says NVLDDMKM.sys
 
This is a hard one mate, sounds like you know what you're doing when it comes to troubleshooting and took the steps i would have taken to try and resolve the issue.

Maybe something in your hardware just crapped out? Have you tried playing another RAM intensive game and see if it also BSOD? Fire up Fallout 3 if you have it, and see if you get BSODs in that game. If you never had issue with fallout 3, and now it BSODs, that might help narrow things down.

On the bethesda forum, are there any other Win7 users with same problem? Not trolling, just that i have seen numerous games having trouble getting to work on the new OS, teething issues i think.

googling "nvlddmkm.sys bsod windows 7" came up with a few interesting forum threads.

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/9297-windows-7-rc-nvlddmkm-sys-bsod.html

reading that led me to

http://forums.amd.com/devforum/messageview.cfm?FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Threaded&catid=328&threadid=100142

which details some way of fixing... some issue. By editing registry. Good Luck!
 
This is a hard one mate, sounds like you know what you're doing when it comes to troubleshooting and took the steps i would have taken to try and resolve the issue.

Maybe something in your hardware just crapped out? Have you tried playing another RAM intensive game and see if it also BSOD? Fire up Fallout 3 if you have it, and see if you get BSODs in that game. If you never had issue with fallout 3, and now it BSODs, that might help narrow things down.

On the bethesda forum, are there any other Win7 users with same problem? Not trolling, just that i have seen numerous games having trouble getting to work on the new OS, teething issues i think.
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thanx for answering.. i did try to play civilization 5, resident evil 5 4 days ago on medium and medium /high setting all good no issues at all :( just before formating .. and i did format and did a clean install just to play FNW
 
Ok, i just get back from work and have a little bit of time before my wife take control of computer so todays ideas for solving BOSD are:

1. try mobcks suggestion THANX M8
googling "nvlddmkm.sys bsod windows 7" came up with a few interesting forum threads.

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/9297-windows-7-rc-nvlddmkm-sys-bsod.html

reading that led me to

http://forums.amd.com/devforum/messageview.cfm?FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Threaded&catid=328&threadid=100142
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2. Seems that a some of people on other forums as well are mentioning that 8800 and 9800 series graphic cards are having problems with overheating especially on Vista/Windows 7 OS so its bothering me a lot and then idea is to install some kind of Benchmark and GPU stress test software to see if i can manage to repeat the damn BSOD error wile not playing FNW. and if u suceeed then its defenetly a Graphic card issue and not FNW.
Also i saw that there are certain Overclockers apps for Nvidia graphic cards where you can , among other things set up the GPU FAN SPEED, and i think i will try to raise it if the first thing fail..

Ok .. thankx for reading.. i will report as soon as i have something to report

3. and im considering to downgrade my OS back to Win XP but i think that will be the last thing to try
 
i tryed two programs

1. GPU-Z 0.4.7 and it doesnt say current temperature of my GPU
2, FurMark v1.8.0. and My Graph card DID survive the benchmark but still NO TEMPERATURE showing.. i wonder how the hell it doesnt have sensors for temperature
Here is a pic from the results
2e3pz53.jpg


Now i will try Stress Test wish me luck
 
With RivaTuner, you can adjust fanspeed and clocks AND monitor temps.

It's a small app.

google it. it has a pretty easy to understand interface. click through different menues and see what it does.

The areas you want to mess with are under the "customize" tabs under "target adapter" and "driver settings"

Inside Target Adapther customize..

"hardware monitoring" is to view temps

"Low level system settings" has the fan adjustment.
 
well.. i did basic Stability test in FurMark with these settings
http://i53.tinypic.com/2zg6muh.jpg
and it went good .. all good.. i stopped the test 10 minutes after the start

and then i did the same one exept i turn on all options like
-Extreme Burning mode
-Displacement mapping
MSAA samples X16

and after 4 or 5 minutes the DAMN BOSD appeared same one as in FNW

so its getting cleared..seems that it has to do something about overheating at least in my case ... dont know.. what do you people think??
and another strange thing is that i cant read the temperature of my GPU.. does anyone knows any software that can read GPU temp on ASUS NVIDIA 8800 GT 512 MB????


now i will install Riva tuner to try raise fan speed.. i wonder if raising fan speed of a card can hurt a card it self???
 
that does appear to be hardware related, and probably an overheating gpu.

one thing to make sure of is that the vid card is clear of dust and that the fan is operable.
turn off your rig, use a can of air and blow out the heatsink on the card and the attached fan, then restart with the side off of the case.

watch the actual vid card while you run a benchmarking test to make sure that the fan is running under load.

you might try using "speedfan", a little utility for manually adjusting your fans/temps/voltages. just adjusting the fan speed faster wont hurt the card any more than it's currently being hurt by overheat shutdowns.
The only negative effects would be on the fan bearings (they'll take a crap sooner if the fan's running at capacity all day every day) and on the decibel level of the noise that your rig makes. (faster usually makes them run louder)

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Another idea would be setting your resolution to something that isn't freaking huge unless that's the native res. Try something dead simple like 800x600 and see if it dies.
 
With RivaTuner, you can adjust fanspeed and clocks AND monitor temps.

It's a small app.

google it. it has a pretty easy to understand interface. click through different menues and see what it does.

The areas you want to mess with are under the "customize" tabs under "target adapter" and "driver settings"

Inside Target Adapther customize..

"hardware monitoring" is to view temps

"Low level system settings" has the fan adjustment.
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i have installed Riva tuner and found and started hardware monitor and it Core temp was 47-48 celsius.. now i started a game load a status and jump a little bit and then i did fast switch with ALT+TAB and it was 51 celsius.. i left an school house in a starting FNW village made few jumps and hit ALT +TAB again and it was 52.4 and just when i get back the game crash with a cursed BOSD ..i hitted restart switch on the case and loaded win 7 again and start riva tuner fast and the temp was again 48.. so confused.. :crazy:

seems that it crash on 52-53 Celsius .. is this high temp for GPU anyway?? what is considered Overheat for nvidia cards??

thanx again.. now i will try to adjust fan speed just in case
 
The 8800gt can handle more than 90°C, 50°C is nothing.
But are you sure you're reading the right temperature?
"Core temp" sounds more like the CPU temp and not the GPU.
And my 8800GTX is at 70°C without even playing a game, so I think you're reading the wrong temp.
Also, try Speedfan, it's similar to RivaTuner in terms of reading temps and adjusting fanspeeds. Maybe that program shows a different temperature?
 
that does appear to be hardware related, and probably an overheating gpu.

one thing to make sure of is that the vid card is clear of dust and that the fan is operable.
turn off your rig, use a can of air and blow out the heatsink on the card and the attached fan, then restart with the side off of the case.
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i did my homework or at least i think i did
3 days ago i took my rig to work and with that air compressor machine i blew out all dust in the world. The case its pretty old but i think it still rocks and beside CPU GPU and power supply fans it has 3 case fans as well two on the back side and one in the front
http://i53.tinypic.com/13ymoms.jpg chek it out if you llike

watch the actual vid card while you run a benchmarking test to make sure that the fan is running under load.
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i will try this now

Another idea would be setting your resolution to something that isn't freaking huge unless that's the native res. Try something dead simple like 800x600 and see if it dies.
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i will try that.. the native res of my monitor is 1920x1200 but i will try to low everything .. hmm i think that i did that once.. no prob.. thanx for advice
 
The 8800gt can handle more than 90°C, 50°C is nothing.
But are you sure you're reading the right temperature?
"Core temp" sounds more like the CPU temp and not the GPU.
And my 8800GTX is at 70°C without even playing a game, so I think you're reading the wrong temp.
Also, try Speedfan, it's similar to RivaTuner in terms of reading temps and adjusting fanspeeds. Maybe that program shows a different temperature?
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i realy could not say.. does Riva tunes shows CPU temp.. here is a picture from just now
nyvdsk.jpg


anyway.. i will try that speedfan right avay and report
 
i really don't get it as i can see it says GPU 0C.. ufff.. im getting very tired of all this.. anyway.. chek it out maybe im not seeing very well
5fluzb.jpg
 
Core Temp in rivia tuner is the card temp. Right click on the graph, choose setup, and pull down the "data provider"

there you can choose a few different diodes that monitor temp.

one is called NVthermaldiode.

Did you try that registry fix from my other post? That wasnt really anything to do with overheating cards, but a fix for "display driver has stopped responding and will be restarted"
yet if youre in a game when this happens, it might just BSOD.

All the tools you need are inside rivatuner. You can attempt to underclock your card to see if that improves stability.
 
Core Temp in rivia tuner is the card temp. Right click on the graph, choose setup, and pull down the "data provider"

there you can choose a few different diodes that monitor temp.

one is called NVthermaldiode.
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when i click with right button on the others graphs beside the one it says core temp i got screen with data provider " DEFAULT"
and when i click on the graph that says core temp on Data provider section i got look.. but its on grey so i cant make a pull down menu
keb79u.jpg


Did you try that registry fix from my other post? That wasnt really anything to do with overheating cards, but a fix for "display driver has stopped responding and will be restarted"
yet if youre in a game when this happens, it might just BSOD.

All the tools you need are inside rivatuner. You can attempt to underclock your card to see if that improves stability
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i will try that fix tomorow.. just too tired now.. thank you all for support and i truly hope that my card isnt that much overheating and that the Big patch will come out soon
 
While the 8800gt's can stand a lot of heat, they also tend to burn out quite often. Do you have a spare card to check?
One that can handle New Vegas?
Although, overheating should lead to a more controlled shutdown and not a BOSD.
To confirm overheating or a hardware problem in general, you could also try a stress test for the GPU.
Something like Furmark just to rule out NV as the source of the BOSD.
http://www.geeks3d.com/20100419/tool-furmark-1-8-2-available/
 
checking my rivatuner, it was on default, which is just fine, nvthermaldiode was from my previous card. Either or, it still seems to be reporting your temps fine all the same.
 
@ Hassknecht i tryed that yesterday mate .. you can see results if you read several posts up.

This is a hard one mate, sounds like you know what you're doing when it comes to troubleshooting and took the steps i would have taken to try and resolve the issue.

Maybe something in your hardware just crapped out? Have you tried playing another RAM intensive game and see if it also BSOD? Fire up Fallout 3 if you have it, and see if you get BSODs in that game. If you never had issue with fallout 3, and now it BSODs, that might help narrow things down.

On the bethesda forum, are there any other Win7 users with same problem? Not trolling, just that i have seen numerous games having trouble getting to work on the new OS, teething issues i think.

googling "nvlddmkm.sys bsod windows 7" came up with a few interesting forum threads.

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/9297-windows-7-rc-nvlddmkm-sys-bsod.html

reading that led me to

http://forums.amd.com/devforum/messageview.cfm?FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Threaded&catid=328&threadid=100142

which details some way of fixing... some issue. By editing registry. Good Luck!
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ok.. i have read and i saw that graphich cards lie ATI & Nvidia maybe its better if you all read this
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/wddm_timeout.mspx

so i went to look
registry key: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers\
TdrDelay: REG_DWORD
but saddly there is no TdrDelay: REG_DWORD in windows 7 at least not on my system.. so i look further and saw this post:
http://wiki.accelereyes.com/wiki/index.php/MTIMES_Benchmarks_(Jacket_1.4)
and on the end of this webpage in TIMEOUT section there is a small utility wich supposedly incise a timeout before GPU hangs.
I downloaded it and added to registry but with no luck :(. well i think that the game did survive a few minutes longer but BOSD at the end again :(

**the strange thing is that after i added specifiy registry i couldnt find TdrDelay: REG_DWORD in regedit so i dont know if utility actualy works. now i think i will restore my system a little bit and try to manualy add the line as sugested
this is how is suposedly done manualy if someone finds interesting

Ok, the trick is:

1) open your vista registry editor

2) go to the key : HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers\

3) highlight it then right click on this key

4) Add DWORD TdrDelay

5) Set value of TdrDelay to the number of seconds you allow your GPU to run with no feedback to the system (ie Timeout watchdog..)

personally I've set this value to 8 seconds (from the default 2s) so that it leaves plenty of time to the GPU to perform overcomplicated computing intensive kernel without having Vista considering a fault and hence "recovering the device"

That all folks, and should help some of you experiencing computer hung ups, or blue screens under vista.

Jean-Claude
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