Star Wars: Solo

CT Phipps

Carbon Dated and Proud


Presently, Solo isn't looking too good at the box office. This is due to the fact it is a production with a severely overinflated budget and a lot of reshoots. Basically, the movie cost $300 million dollars to make and it probably won't get that back, making it the only Star Wars movie which might actually bomb.


Who doesn't want to be Han Solo?

A lot of people are questioning whether this is because of The Last Jedi's divisive narrative (I'm one of the people who won't forgive it for Luke but otherwise think it was a good movie) or whether a Han Solo movie without Harrison Ford was always a tougher sell than people thought. I think it's probably a combination of both, personally, but what it isn't is the movie itself. Because this movie is awesome.

I'm one of the people who found Rogue One to be a film I didn't much care for and I am a huge fan of The Force Awakens. So, I march to the beat of my own drum in fandom. Here, I think this is the Solo movie I wanted. Mind you, I wasn't actually expecting to like it because I already thought there was a young Han Solo movie which was perfectly serviceable--it was called Guardians of the Galaxy.

The premise is Han and his friend Qi'ra (Emilia Clarke) are thieves living on Corellia when Han is able to escape off-planet but not her. After a brief but unpleasant period of service in the Imperial Army, Han ends up deserting and joining a ragtag band of misfits. This leads him to reunite with Qi'ra, meet with Chewbacca, and become acquainted with Lando Calrissian (Donald Glover). The group decides to steal a massive shipment of hyperspace fuel on behalf of a gangster and things promptly go to hell.


Emilia Clarke is absolutely awesome in this movie.

The plot isn't actually that important because it's set dressing for the character interactions. Han is a romantic good-natured criminal who just so happens to surrounded by significantly less good-natured criminals. I like the contrast because it reminds me of another Han Solo prequel in Firefly. One of the main things that underscored that show was Mal Reynolds was always suffering because most criminals didn't have a code of ethics.

Indeed, one of the consistent elements of Han Solo is the fact that he always tends to choose doing the right thing over making a profit and that is always going to be a thing that goes over like a lead balloon with the Underworld. Nevertheless, I really enjoyed the colorful cast of characters assembled for this film and how they all played off against one another.


Donald Glover does an amazing Lando.

Woody Harrelson does a great performance as Tobias Beckett, an older more established criminal who reminds me a good deal of a few characters from the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Emilia Clarke does an amazing job as a person who Han used to know extremely intimately but has since developed in her own direction. Paul Bettany does a serviceable job as a upper-level-but-not-quite-top tier crime boss, intimidating but someone Han Solo is capable of dealing with.

We get to see a lot of Han Solo's epic moments: serving the Empire, freeing Chewbacca, winning the Falcon, making the Kessel Run, and so on all happen in what amounts to a single wild weekend. This kind of story compression isn't really my cup of tea but certainly manages to hit the kind of things people would want from a Han Solo movie.

I really enjoyed Alden Ehrenreich's performance as Han Solo even if I note I've already seen plenty of other people play variants on Han's character (Chris Pine, Nathan Fillon, Val Kilmer, and so on). Is he Harrison Ford? No, of course not, but I've got no complaints about him either. Young Han the Lovable Rogue is a character who can be recast I think a little easier than trying to do the same with Leia or Luke Skywalker. After all, I absolutely loved Sean Patrick Flannery as Young Indiana Jones.


The droid which will kill us all!

I think my favorite part of the film is the Han Solo/Qi'ra romance as it doesn't go in the direction I think it would be. Being the other woman Han Solo loved in his life is an incredible task but she pulls it off. Qi'ra is one of those mysterious femme fatale characters that fits well into the kind of girl which Han Solo would have known. The fact she isn't the kind of wide-eyed idealist and romantic
Han Solo is makes her a good contrast to Leia.

The issue of droid rights is briefly touched upon in this movie and played for laughs. Personally, I'm a bit offput by that as I think that's a can of worms which Star Wars doesn't need to touch on. Either droids are programmable to be happy to serve like 3PO demonstrates himself to be or they're sentient, in which case it's slavery. Personally, I'm inclined to think only a very small number of droids are sentient. I also hope R2D2 backed up 3PO's memories from the Prequels somewhere.

There's a surprise addition to the movie in terms of a bad guy who I think will confuse most audiences rather than make them squeal. I don't know if they're going to make a sequel to this movie but if they are, it'll be interesting how they follow up on it.

9/10
 
I found the film a complete waste of time and at one point took my glasses off because I believed they were dirty (turns out the film just looks bad).

It had the same character development as A New Hope which makes the film more pointless.

While it had some fun stuff, it ultimately just came off as rather dull.

The reveal at the ending I thought was terrible, it really killed the last act of the film.

I do find it strange that we get The Last Jedi, which is a film about letting go of the past and moving on, and this film which is about recalling the past with no need to move forward and change.

The two themes clash with each other, especially seeing as how both films came out within 6 months of each other.

I'm torn between a 4 or 5/10.
 
I found the film a complete waste of time and at one point took my glasses off because I believed they were dirty (turns out the film just looks bad).

It had the same character development as A New Hope which makes the film more pointless.

While it had some fun stuff, it ultimately just came off as rather dull.

The reveal at the ending I thought was terrible, it really killed the last act of the film.

I do find it strange that we get The Last Jedi, which is a film about letting go of the past and moving on, and this film which is about recalling the past with no need to move forward and change.


The two themes clash with each other, especially seeing as how both films came out within 6 months of each other.

I'm torn between a 4 or 5/10.

I now realize why I love this film.

It nicely shows TLJ sucks.

:)
 
I've been a Star Wars fan since 1977 and I didn't bother going to see this because of how bad TLJ was. Disney's killed Star Wars for me. Congrats, Disney.

As stated, TLJ is all about how letting go of the past is important and how our heroes have feet of clay.

Solo is about how awesome Han Solo is.
 
Everytime I see Emilia Clarke as a love interest I assume the casting director or the director himself is an Ephebophile.

As stated, TLJ is all about how letting go of the past is important and how our heroes have feet of clay.

Was it the message of the story? I mean it was presented as the evil rant of the mentally unstable emo bad guy who proceeds to not do that, and the movie is another beat by beat rethread of one of the original trilogy movies.
 
As stated, TLJ is all about how letting go of the past is important and how our heroes have feet of clay.

Solo is about how awesome Han Solo is.

Spoiler marking this just in case:

Kylo Ren in TFA:
"Show me again the power of the darkness, and I'll let nothing stand in our way. Show me, grandfather, and I will finish what you started."

Kylo Ren in TLJ (2 in-story days later):
"let the past die. Kill it, if you have to.

that continuity... <_<
 
Based on how TLJ craps on the entire Star Wars legacy, it sure seems like he doesn't like Star Wars at all.

Solo does sound like it's more my kind of Star Wars movie, but I'm done giving Disney money for Star Wars at this point. I'll catch it on Netflix maybe.
 
Apparently Rian Johnson basically said "fuck you" to JJ Abrams's intended progression for TLJ and decided to make the movie like he wanted instead. That's why the movie is a clusterfuck of contradictions.

I only ask: Was the Solo movie really necessary? Did we really need a movie telling all the major events that happened when Han Solo was younger? To me that just destroys the magic of imagining and speculating what would have been like.
 
Apparently Rian Johnson basically said "fuck you" to JJ Abrams's intended progression for TLJ and decided to make the movie like he wanted instead. That's why the movie is a clusterfuck of contradictions.

I only ask: Was the Solo movie really necessary? Did we really need a movie telling all the major events that happened when Han Solo was younger? To me that just destroys the magic of imagining and speculating what would have been like.

I mean, the only fun I had in TLJ was seeing RJ getting rid of all of JJ's stupid mystery box nonsense from TFA. But at the same time, it doesn't really help the movie at all. He spends so much time focusing on the stuff he intends to destroy and ignore, it takes away from the setup of the story he's actually trying to tell. It's comical.

And no, we didn't need a Solo movie at all. It's just a way for them to milk the pig.
 
Apparently Rian Johnson basically said "fuck you" to JJ Abrams's intended progression for TLJ and decided to make the movie like he wanted instead. That's why the movie is a clusterfuck of contradictions.

I only ask: Was the Solo movie really necessary? Did we really need a movie telling all the major events that happened when Han Solo was younger? To me that just destroys the magic of imagining and speculating what would have been like.

It's not necessary but it's fun.

It doesn't try to be more than fun and that's perhaps a lot better idea than trying to invent the wheel.

Is there a reason not to do a Han Solo heist movie?
 
After Episode IX, I'll be done with Star Wars.
VIII did a lot things right for me, sure it had a massive load of issues, but the Gold was real gold for me.
Solo feels like a cash grab, the film even looks heartless.

Dammit, I hated the prequels and everything about them... but at least you could tell George gave a shit, at least for the first two films. Sure Attack of the Clones is probably one of the worst films ever made and is the worst Star Wars film, at least it was George's vision. It was a shit vision and it needed People to step in, but now we have whatever Solo is.

It's a shame, because part of the reason I enjoyed TLJ Jedi so much was because it was about letting go of the past and moving on. In a weird way, I saw it almost a thematic successor to Twin Peaks Season 3, a show which was about letting go of the past. They bot had different ways of dealing with it, but with the over abundance of our nostalgia in our media, we almost needed to be told that keep reverting back to that past isn't going to help, it's going to stop us from experiencing new stories from new People. In a way, bot TLJ and Twin Peaks almost need to be watched together for those ideas and themes to fully develop. (It feels weird comparing TLJ to Twin Peaks, but here we are).
Solo does away with all of that, for a while, it's instead a film which relies solely on the nostalgia of those who watched it. It's a clip show without the clips. It doesn't have greater themes at play, instead it's a generic space adventure with the Star Wars aesthetic, it doesn't try to be anything else.

So yeah, I like TLJ, a lot in fact (sue me or kill me, it doesn't matter), I feel the reputation of it being the worst Star Wars movie or worst movie is retarded. It may be your opinion, but it's wrong. Especially seeing as how we live in a World where the Prequels exist, how can one sit there and tell me with a straight face they'd rather watch Episode 2 over 8?

Exaggeration aside, I love Star Wars so much I have grown to despise it. Every new movie released is like a dagger to my heart. I'm at that point where I just don't care anymore. I hate Star Wars. It had 3 really good films with two really good films added onto that. Solo is just the confirmation that I really don't care anymore.

(FYI, Phantom Menace is the best Prequel).
 
I would much rather watch Episode II over VIII.

I'd rather have my teeth drilled.

Mind you, what I like about Solo is it's a nice critique to the ideas of letting go of the past. It's a story about Han Solo doing Han Solo awesome things. When we're stabbing our heroes by their own sick and degraded children, it's nice to see heroic heroes doing awesome thing and paying homage to the things we love. Nostalgia can be a vicious bitter pill but so is pretending the new is always better than the bad. Star Wars was a great work because it conjured a sense of what was great in the past and combined it with visions of the future to create a used but wonderful universe that celebrated humanity.

Episode VIII?

Who cares what happens to the universe after it. A light has gone out in the universe and the rest of the galaxy didn't care.
 
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I would much rather watch Episode II over VIII.

Each to their own

I personally found Episode 2 to just be a waste of time. 8 just moved things forward for me.

Episode VIII?

Who cares what happens to the universe after it. A light has gone out in the universe and the rest of the galaxy didn't care.

We have a deranged lunatic in charge of an Empire, an Empire which may just follow orders due to how unpredictable and insane the guy comes across. I'm sorry, but that's a pretty nice set-up in my opinion. This isn't just the Emperor doing stuff, this is some kid who could snap at any minute.
 
But it's not an empire, they are seemingly just a group of cartoonish and Buffonish guys with pew pew pews who control nothing.
Also the Kid who could snap at any minute has been defeated in increasingly humilliating fashion each movie and he looks like Dobby the Elf with a wig. Nobody in the FIrst order even has a name or a motivation beyond being generic evil, the only general with a voice and a face is some baby faced Cartoon nazi with ridiculous sideburns who gets slapped around more than Tom the cat. THere is no menace or dimension to the First order and similarly there is no dimension or ideal to root for the "Resistance" beyond them being the designated good guys, they aren't even smart.

Episode 2 is hilariously bad, but at least that is entertaining in some way as opposed to just watching A New Hope rehashed with worse pacing and flater characters.
 
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