Tom Chick responds to Wired piece

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Game journalist Tom Chick responded to the Fallout 3 preview on Game|Life (Wired) by basically calling it a smear piece.<blockquote>Man, that's really disappointing to read that stuff on Wired. I had my thirty minutes with the game today and it was over like *that*. I barely had time to meet a few characters, dig the combat against a couple of molerats and dogs, and do a little perking up, all the while tuned into a crackly broadcast playing some Billie Holiday. Based on these preliminary bits of awesomeness, I couldn't even begin to comment on the quality of the writing. Because pretty much all I've seen are a few dialog choices.

It's a mystery to me how Earnest Cav. can make pronouncements like he's made based on the thirty minutes of time we get at E3. That's a pretty sad smear job.

As for likable characters, heck, I really liked two of the people I met. The black guy in the cowboy hat who you saw in one of the early screenshots is the sheriff of Megaton, a town built around a crater with an unexploded nuclear bomb -- Fat Man style -- at the bottom. He was your standard-issue small frontier town sheriff, but plenty likeable, even when you're trying to sass him. I also liked Gob, the irradiated ghoul bartender, who's obviously supposed to be a sympathetic character.

Anyway, nice work, Wired. :( I guess they're hiring from NMA, or RPG Codex, or wherever these goofballs spawn from.</blockquote>That's right guys, everyone not positive about Fallout 3 must be from NMA or RPG Codex.

And they say we're the crazy ones?

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Isn't it a great age we live in?

Those who do not share the same opinion of the majority are automatically the enemy of the majority.

Guess Tom Chick has taken a page from the Neocons' manual; "Those who do not share your beliefs or agree with you are your enemy and should be taken out."

BTW, was this the guy who wanted all us NMA'ers dead?
 
[cst]Yay for forums where every Fallout thread turns into 95-page NMA-bashing.[/cst]
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
BTW, was this the guy who wanted all us NMA'ers dead?
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No, that was GameSpot's Allen 'Delsyn' Rausch.

It's kind of inevitable that a lot of journalists don't like us, tho'. It's not like we say nice things about them, and most of them never try dropping by to actually talk to us, instead staying on forums with...less than friendly opinions of Fallout fans. Like QTT.
 
"Anyway, nice work wired :( I guess they are Fallout fans."

Also, doesn't he realize that there must be some kind of problem with this game if the fanbase it is supposed to be aimed at ( mmh ) is filled with people who seem to hate it so far ?
 
Brother None said:
It's kind of inevitable that a lot of journalists don't like us, tho'. It's not like we say nice things about them, and most of them never try dropping by to actually talk to us, instead staying on forums with...less than friendly opinions of Fallout fans. Like QTT.
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Of course they don't like any hardcore fans. They are getting money from developer to shut their mouth or making 'positive' commend on the game :twisted:
 
erm ... why do you care what some random guy says on some random forum at 70ish page of some random thread ?
not like its big news imo ...
 
zioburosky13 said:
Of course they don't like any hardcore fans. They are getting money from developer to shut their mouth or making 'positive' commend on the game :twisted:
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See?

This is why they don't like us.

kyle said:
erm ... why do you care what some random guy says on some random forum at 70ish page of some random thread ?
not like its big news imo ...
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It's one professional journalist who has had his hands on Fallout 3 responding to another professional journalist's piece and calling it smear.

In serious media, that would cause a riot. Luckily this is the internet. Which doesn't mean it's not note-worthy.

Also, the "he must be from NMA"-bit is pure gold.
 
NMA - causing the cancellation of Van Burens (through a fiendish plan of under-buying Tacticses) since 2003.
 
Haha. This is funny. Negative criticism not allowed?

It's interesting to see how the 'we don't have enough info to judge the game' argument has evolved. And by evolved I mean not changed at all. Before any info about Beth's F3 had been released at all, it was NMA policy that it's too early to judge. Then the first previews came and many fears were confirmed. The people who disagreed with the opposition of F3 still used the argument that information was lacking and that negative opinions were too speculative (whereas positive opinions were considered OK). As time passed, a flood of previews accumulated. Still, many newcomers arrived at NMA saying the line that had by then become a cliché: not enough data to form an opinion. Recently, even more information has been released to the public, along with actual gameplay videos. Yet - lo and be hold - people like Tom Chick still use that argument regardless of how much we know of the game. Cavalli actually got to play the game, but that's still not enough to say anything bad about F3, according to Chick who even has the audacity to call negative criticism a 'smear job'. And that's despite a number of positive aspects being listed in Cavalli's preview - aspects with which quite a few people here probably don't agree. We see a tendency emerging: negative opinions of F3 are dismissed as being based on too little data, whereas positive opinions are always acceptable - even those that appear to be figurative 'blow jobs' for Bethesda, even though they are based on the exact same information. The point of this is clear: to suppress unwanted opinions and to get people to buy the game.
 
"That's a pretty sad smear job"
Damn them and their opinions!
What more do I expect from the man who hated the first Deus Ex?
 
Tom Chick has a negative opinion of fallout fans because of that goofy ass article of his a month or so ago he got called out on, on that sci-fi channel games blog.

It was the most commented on article his site ever had I think:)

But this is just stupid. I have to wonder now is Tom Chick being paid directly by Beth to defend there product? Because it seems he is saying stuff no self respecting journalist would. I know times must be hard after loosing that sweet GFW job Tom, where you only wrote 2 pages a month. But are you now a direct PR whore for hire?
 
I don't like people that walk into my house, and tell me how things are going down. That's exactly what these tools are doing. Well that's how I feel. I just wanted to play Fallout 3 and now I can't because again, they release another crappy spin off that has NOTHING to do with the original game. Why would I want to play Fallout 3 considering it has nothing to do with Fallout 1 or 2? Seriously! Bethesda Fallout 3 = B rated movie. One reason why I absolutely hate Fallout 3 is the FACT it doesn't have the TEXT box on the bottom left corner that gives emphasis on your environment and sucks you into the game. Instead you see a raped women crying on the floor asking for help.(Sorry if you don't understand my analogy) I don't go around bitching about how no one reads books anymore. But I'd hope people read everyday. But I guess this generation is just retarded and all those pills they prescribe to everyone has turned them into big babies who can't handle doing a little hard work before getting rewarded. The best way to win is to point the finger and say everyone on that side is the enemy. And that's what they are doing. They are pathetic. I bet there's a lot more information regarding Fallout on NMA then there is on ANY gaming website; PERIOD! So they can take their ignorance and choke on it! And why do they look at forums to decide what a function of a website is? NMA is for Fallout and its fans; but mostly Fallout information. That is why I go here. Lately the information has been depressing. I wouldn't mind if NMA filtered out Fallout 3 news and just started reporting post apocalypse games in general. Excuse my rant but its ridiculous that NMA is considered some sort of bad website regarding Fallout information or some backwater store in the back of a strip mall. What will we do when there is no chance at a true sequel? What will NMA do? I hope there is something else to look forward to. I'm looking forward to the Fallout MMO and Wasteland 2. As well as any Blizzard title. Hope this isn't vat material cause I don't think it is. Not trying to troll but this is just ridiculous!
 
As found not so far into the thread, Boing Boing Gadgets also posted a blog entry on Wired's piece:<blockquote>In a sharply-worded review up at its Game|Life blog, Earnest Cavalli slams it as "almost entirely lacking" the series' iconic charm. And a review it certainly is, with little in the way of hedging to conceal the author's judgment, even of a storyline he saw only half an hour of.

Grist for the mill for those who want it to fail. For the rest of us, sigh.</blockquote>Internet backlash against gamer's opinion!
 
This is pathetic. Apparently "we don't know enough" only applies to negative opinions, while everybody can ramble how awesome FO3 is any time... even if they know less than people who don't like it.
 
Unillenium said:
The bomb could have been launched from anywhere but NMA/RPG Codex is the big thing on the horizon in the direction it came from... Easier to blame.
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What? Fuck that. We have heavy censorship on cross-site trolling and have never allowed anyone to abuse NMA for stirring a shitstorm somewhere else. There is no justification at all for blaming us for the behaviour of a bunch of idiotic kids on their forum, no matter how big we loom on the horizon.
 
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