What's wrong with Call of Duty essay

It's like "story shoved in your face" or "tutorialising". It's one of those things that we apparently are too cool to have even with them being a staple in gaming and by extent media since ever. It's not inherently bad, it can just not be well done, but that won't stop from people whining for something they don't actually want or know if they do.

COD gives what it says it does. A technically admirable campaign, an arcade multiplayer that games just didn't have for a long time until the last year or so, and ZOMBIES.
You don't get more nor less. And while that's not particularly good, it's not a fault. I find that it may be as relevant as asking for a Super Mario game to have political intrigue.

I'm not a CoD fan, not even a player. FPS "as-is" isn't my cup of tea. But seeing games "having to" change their principles to accommodate other people who will be tourists for the most parts, and for the worst; that being the loss of what made that franchise itself, it hurts to see. I don't want to other people to get Fallout 4s on their loved franchises, so if I want X aspect that really is up to me, I just look for mods or just play other game that satisfies what I'm looking for.

Saying "I want player building in The Long Dark!" or "New Vegas should have had more (raiders) enemies!" I understand that'as something for the devs to consider at an extent, but they compromise the integrity of the work. Becouse those suggestions make it more like say RUST or Far Cry respectively. Play RUST or Far Cry then.
 
Actually, I blame Halo for most of the tropes that suck in modern shooters. It brought FPS games on consoles to the mainstream. Yeah, there were some classic shooters like GoldenEye and Perfect Dark and Timesplitters, but really, it was Halo that made FPS work with controllers. But by doing that it also codified some of the awful things that are still in FPS today. Weapon limits, for example. Handgun and up to two larger weapons, that's it. Autoheal, at least for the shield. Sluggish movement and slow gameplay. Super linear campaigns.
I don't care about CoD: WWII not being politically correct and making a huge point about xenophobia and how war is bad. It's fucking CALL OF DUTY, of course it's going to be all heroic and patriotic. It's the "We Were Soldiers" to all the "Full Metal Jacket" and "Apocalypse Now" Vietnam movies. Does every game have to be cynical and grey and with a strong message about the insanity of war these days?
I would like to see a CoD campaign from the perspective of an ordinary german soldier, though, just to see how they'd pull it off.

/edit: What I'm saying is not that we don't need morally grey wargames. I'm saying that we don't necessarily need a morally grey and cynical Call of Duty, especially not one set in WWII.
Actually, we don't need any more CoD games at all because they suck, but that's neither here nor there.
 
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I just don't know i felt that world at war was already much better than Cod ww2 is going to be. For a start the name isn't as generic and there was actually variation is the game play locations. Like the island hoping campaign and the Russian front. But this time cod has gone I think back to the orginals and focused on 1944-1945. And will be from D day pushing into France and Germany. Like atleast COD big red one. Focused on the Italy campaigns and operation desert focus.


Things that really pissed me off about the trailer ; I noticed that is same divsion that has already been showed in COD. The big red one was on a guy. Witch there story has already been told in Cod the big red one. So you know maybe pick something different like an airborune division or something like that ?

The sten gun was used; The british machine gun was used but umm not british. THis is going to USA vs Germany again isn't it. I mean after all it was a world war
 
Okay, how do I explain my opinion?

Hmmm.

Bear with me.

CALL OF DUTY writing being stupid is not a innately part of Call of Duty. Call of Duty being stupid is because they choose to write it that way. The game does not need to be for imbeciles nor does it need to completely throw away any storytelling on the sake of the altar of making people feel good about murdering people in an orgiastic explosion of patriotic sentiment designed to give Oliver North a few extra bucks.

The thing which is so damn ridiculous about all this is I am a Call of Duty fan who LIKES the storytelling when they bother to do anything than the stupid-as-fuck G.I. Joe vs. Cobra bullshit which is the common display in the games for the past few iterations. This is not about political correctness, it is as FAR from political correctness as humanly possible since it requires all manner of censorship to reduce real-life theaters of war into Goombas and Koopas.

It's also entirely possible to do it right since they've done it before.

As much heat as Modern Warfare takes for its actions, the whole point of the SAS in COD4MW and Russian missions were to muddy the lines around the good and the bad. The SAS murdered people in their sleep and did a lot of questionable things. The Russian Invasion was all because of a false flag action by Makarov so it wasn't "good vs. evil" in 2. The reason that COD4MW was great was in large part because they satirized America's "RA RA RA" bullshit by having that attitude getting you and your squad killed by nuclear weapons--the entire mission being an enormous clusterfuck. General Shepard being an Osama Bin Ladin EXPY also nicely undercut the argument for pure good vs. evil nationalist politics as his vengeance agaisnt Russia killed millions.

The Black Ops games also had some really decent moments in them when they weren't thinking Oliver North was a good thing in their games. We got to play from the perspective of Mendendez. As nasty as the Russians were in Black Ops, the story at least felt like everyone was humanized. This is compared to the cartoons of Atlas, the Federation, and the Space Nazis of Infintie Warfare.
Basically, I don't need the game to hold my hand and say, "it's okay, they're bad guys." War games should have ugliness and edge because it's BETTER that way not because it's an agenda.

if I want to play brightly colored good vs. evil, I have Halo. It's why Spec Ops: The Line was a better Call of Duty game than Call of Duty has been lately.
 
lolpop109 said:
But this time cod has gone I think back to the orginals and focused on 1944-1945.
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I've actually been living under a rock. I just Googled it and it's literally called Call of Duty WWII? That's just lazy as fuck. Not to mention WW2 has been done so many times now, the reason Modern Warfare was made was because people were bored with WW2. I guess people got fed up of all the modern-future stuff they've gone full circle.

Featuring stunning visuals, the Campaign transports players to the European theater as they engage in an all-new Call of Duty® story set in iconic World War II battles.
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Takes place in Europe but from the looks of the trailer it appears the game will be from the American perspective only. Why? The original COD had the US, Brits and Russians. I'm not trying to downplay the US effort but we rarely see the British perspective (as far as I know only the first COD game had it) and no one has explored the German side.
 
Prone Squanderer said:
Takes place in Europe but from the looks of the trailer it appears the game will be from the American perspective only. Why? The original COD had the US, Brits and Russians. I'm not trying to downplay the US effort but we rarely see the British perspective (as far as I know only the first COD game had it) and no one has explored the German side.
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That would be one of the controversies, yeah.
 
Honesty, Medal of Honor Airborne, did this right with the "parachute into the level mechanic" which added tension just trying to land in a safe zone and not get shot out of the air and was very cool. I haven't seen a ww2/fps focus on paratroopers too often where that actualy matters instead of just being ww2 guy who happens to be a paratrooper and never "jumping" into levels.
 
It's weird to compare, but for me, ARMA is what I want to see in that military fps thing, and that's a war sim.

But with COD.... eh...
I never really cared for COD4 or anything.
I mean, COD4 was good, but I was more into Halo 3 (and despite what Hass says, I do still really like the Halo games).
 
Prone Squanderer said:
I've actually been living under a rock. I just Googled it and it's literally called Call of Duty WWII? That's just lazy as fuck. Not to mention WW2 has been done so many times now, the reason Modern Warfare was made was because people were bored with WW2. I guess people got fed up of all the modern-future stuff they've gone full circle.



Takes place in Europe but from the looks of the trailer it appears the game will be from the American perspective only. Why? The original COD had the US, Brits and Russians. I'm not trying to downplay the US effort but we rarely see the British perspective (as far as I know only the first COD game had it) and no one has explored the German side.
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Yeha the name fucking makes me feel shit about the whloe thing. Please get a better fucking name. If iwas ww2 I would sue for deformation. Yeah full circled alright


Yeah and even more it focus on the big red one. US 1st infantry divsion witch was already used in cod big red one. And that had aferica campaign and italy campgain missions so like WTF.

Yeah its so dumb. I mean like britian fought for longer aswell ? russian lost the most troops etc. Looks like not pacfic campgin either. Well include british campgin level or something but looks like this was nothing but a side note
 
I would love to play a game based on partisans fighting against the Axis forces. Like the classic French underground to Yugoslav partians to Italians fighting to overthrow Mussolini to the Czechs. It would most likely span the European continent.
 
lolpop109 said:
Yeha the name fucking makes me feel shit about the whloe thing. Please get a better fucking name. If iwas ww2 I would sue for deformation. Yeah full circled alright. Yeah and even more it focus on the big red one. US 1st infantry divsion witch was already used in cod big red one. And that had aferica campaign and italy campgain missions so like WTF. Yeah its so dumb. I mean like britian fought for longer aswell ? russian lost the most troops etc. Looks like not pacfic campgin either. Well include british campgin level or something but looks like this was nothing but a side note
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There's a Youtube video trashing Polygon's take on it which basically says, "WW2 was a white male war--you know, ignoring yes, there were Japanese and Chinese people in it but they don't count." It's kind of hilarious because I'm usually all about trashing Polygon but his attempts to do so kept fucking up because of all the non-white people involved in the war.

And not even mentioning the white European non-American people. I mean, shit, the previous CODs at least had Russians fighting Nazis. They were RACIST against the Russians fighting Nazis but they were there.



Juza The Cloud said:
I would love to play a game based on partisans fighting against the Axis forces. Like the classic French underground to Yugoslav partians to Italians fighting to overthrow Mussolini to the Czechs. It would most likely span the European continent.
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I did like the Saboteur.
 
Very true.

I'm still waiting for a good Battle of Britain game too. Which would be full of awesome ethnicities. Just not Americans.
 
I'd love to play as the free Polish forces or maybe colonial French forces, or hell, the Burma theatre would be great to be made into a game.
 
The game will eventually die out, unless they change things radically. Which they wont, so CoD is doomed to die a slow death.

I personally prefer Battlefield 1 simply due to the scale of the multiplayer battles and the battle ambience.
 
CT Phipps said:
There's a Youtube video trashing Polygon's take on it which basically says, "WW2 was a white male war--you know, ignoring yes, there were Japanese and Chinese people in it but they don't count." It's kind of hilarious because I'm usually all about trashing Polygon but his attempts to do so kept fucking up because of all the non-white people involved in the war.

And not even mentioning the white European non-American people. I mean, shit, the previous CODs at least had Russians fighting Nazis. They were RACIST against the Russians fighting Nazis but they were there.
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I'm exhausted by publishers shoe-horning every Tom, Dick and Harry into their game just to tick diversity check boxes off. Either include things because it's paramount to the narrative or don't.

Witcher 3 had practically zero "diversification" and it didn't suffer for it - unless you count the shrieking "writers" at Polygon shedding crocodile tears.
 
BigGuyCIA said:
I'm exhausted by publishers shoe-horning every Tom, Dick and Harry into their game just to tick diversity check boxes off. Either include things because it's paramount to the narrative or don't.

Witcher 3 had practically zero "diversification" and it didn't suffer for it - unless you count the shrieking "writers" at Polygon shedding crocodile tears.
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Well, it's a series with roughly half female characters and mostly driving the plot.

It's also weird because there's a mix of Blacks, Arabs, and Asians in the original novels.

So they flat-out whitewashed the books.
 
Doesn't mean they have to be in the game.

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So they flat-out whitewashed the books.
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Literally a game rooted in Polish culture based on a book rooted in Polish culture. Zerrikania is referenced in-game for what it's worth. Let the devs tell the story with the characters they want. I couldn't care less if there's a lack of a certain cultural group.

I have a feeling I'll go blue in the face before I see an article from Polygon that says Jade Empire wasn't diverse enough.
 
I couldn't care less about cod tbh. Although on the subject of shooters how was the new wolfenstien and the new doom? I've heard good things but gamers these days are willing to put up with a lot of shit.
 
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