World of fallout, is it possible?

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Gekko

It Wandered In From the Wastes
I found this site: http://www.kiddofspeed.com/ where this person drives around Chernobyl with she's motorcycle. It's quite sad to see the true power of disasterous nuclearpower, instead of playing fallout games. Photographs where broken toys and gas masks are in same picture are quite pressing. Pictures of past life, now broken and lost. Dead.

They say that "Radiation will stay in the Chernobyl area for the next 48.000 years, but humans may begin repopulating the area in about 600 years". And it was just "only" one nuclear powerplant! Think about the story of fallout: Hundreds of nuclearmissiles raining from the sky.. hell, there are thousands of them! If there's going to be a nuclear war, we all are going to die permanently.

And if the war is coming? I hope that the warchiefs notice their stupidity when they see the purifying hellfire raping their loved homelands.

-Gekko
 
Gekko said:
we all are going to die permanently.
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its usually permanent when people die u know...

seriusly, if you live a long way from where the nukes fall, then maby....but im no expert
 
Kahgan said:
Gekko said:
we all are going to die permanently.
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its usually permanent when people die u know...

seriusly, if you live a long way from where the nukes fall, then maby....but im no expert
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Seems like we have a wiseass in our company. ;) What I meant was that the whole miserable race of human will die.

But let's hope it will not.
 
:rofl: hehe, well im not the wisest wise-ass, actually, i think that was my first wise ass post :lol:
 
I like her stories [though I dont like the bike], it brings back some memories and forces to immagine "what if.." world. I have been thinking about - how it would be to experience the real fallout. The conclusion was not so promising - there's a great chance I'd die
1)in the first seconds by direct hit of any of the bombs;
2)in a few following hours/weeks/months because of aftereffects;
3)would die from hunger or poisoning/radioactivity in a few following months;
4)would get killed by robbers;
5)would get some easy curable but in this situation with no medicine - lethal illness and die from it;
6)would get eaten by wild animals - like dogs, for example;

Even if I succeed those points and learn to live in the new dengerous world, I would suffer considerably - 1) I have to wear glasses so if I break them I am like blind because there is no chance I get another ones; 2) I have to hunt/steel/kill for food, otherwise I die from hunger. Problem is that I am not used to these things now and it would turn out to be a great problem; 3)I can hardly immagine getting some fire burning without proper tools and experience; 4)my current education would be really un-appropriate [the IT stuff]..so, I'd have to learn something else..and quickly!
To sum up everything, it seems I'd better stay away from the world of Fallout as far as I can get. Better its in my PC rather behind the window.

SPeaking of Chernobyl - I guess its fine example of how would look the most of the world after apocalipse. And the conditions would be similar, yet, people are living there [and they die too] so would a race of humans last after the catastrophe...same ghost towns, radiation, mutants [mutated nature], wild animals and places with high level of radioactivity where you should never step in - that would be a reality for the most of the world. Somewhere it would be even worst. So, if anyone is interested in "how it feels to live in Fallout world" he could try to survive a month in the wastes of Chernobyl.It definetly would be an adventure to remember.
 
Err... I've never visited Chernobyl (though I really want to some day, not to mention abandoned Soviet Industrial Cities and the Soviet Space Program sites), but I have read quite a bit about it. The thing about the radiated area is that it is one of the most lush places on Earth, outside of the town itself. It is hardly what one would call a "wasteland."

Kamaz, my bet would be on communities forming, people like you, without useful skills, could form together, pooling their talents. Now, I'm a mechanical engineer, and my hobby is medieval equipment. I know some of my skills could be used in a world without modern civilization. I even know how to grind glasses (primitive, but better than nothing).

I'd also image that people would get closer to animals, since we would be more dependent on them. Dogs are a great help for hunting, cats keep rodent populations down, and then farm animals.
 
Oh, I see, glass grinding..you know..I'll PM you when any apocalipse happens, eh?

Medieval equipment - thats nice one. Mostly those are RPG players and especially LaRPG paticipants, that build such kind of weapons nowadays, then there is also a part that have a deep intereset in history and work hard to replicate as good as its possible the weapons and armour from past ages. I know people of both kind while it is becoming very popular in my country now. Anyway, the thing I wanted to say - those LaRPG/RPG players are really in good position if any apocalipse happens around because their hobby is technically more primitive, based mostly only on their pure hardworking rather hi-tech and non self-replicable parts. And, what is the funniest thing, those LaRPG players mostly know some general bases on sword(axe, shield, armour) yielding so they could be a considerable threat for their oponents when having a blade. I'd say, its kinda perk for them. SO, if you are waiting for apocalipse - dont hesitate to join some LaRPG swordsmen clan, that could help.

About that Chernobyl's wastland - it was figurative, ya know. But, if youi have been there and have read anything more say, how about mutants? No, not a bout those supermuties or giant ants, but I just have heard stories of overgrown/mutated mushrooms each one in size of a pumpkin [+/-]. Is it just folks-talk or are they real? [And do they atact humans?]
 
If the current rate of oil consumption stays the same, there will be no easily extractable oil in 30 years. That means conflicts between countries will heat up quickly, and quite possibly escalate to war. Because oil is so crucial, once it runs out there will be no fertilizer, no electricity, a widespread panic in major cities and countless deaths.
 
Kamaz, LaRPG players would be nothing compared to the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism).

Temo, that's not going to happen. You see, as oil becomes rarer, it will become more expensive. As it becomes more expensive, companies will have a real incentive to develop alternate fuels (the price tag would be worth it). Alternate sources will supplement oils, at a lower price. That's the economic reality of the situation.
 
Fusion is the only possible alternate source of energy since all the other ones are too expensive or insufficient. You can use a solar battery roof to cool your house in the summer, but not much beyond that. If fusion is invented, humanity's future is safe, but alas scientists are still beating their heads against a brick wall.
 
Temo said:
Fusion is the only possible alternate source of energy since all the other ones are too expensive or insufficient. You can use a solar battery roof to cool your house in the summer, but not much beyond that. If fusion is invented, humanity's future is safe, but alas scientists are still beating their heads against a brick wall.
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fusion cant be *invented*, it already is, on the sun, the sun is an entirely big fusion...the problem is to make/find a material that can bare the EXTREME heat...do u know any materialls that can bare to go to the sun? :?:
 
Also storing antimatter would help. Actually we have managed to store antimatter but only for something like 0.0000000000001 seconds (seriously). I gues that's a good start, only one way to go and it's up.
 
I'm gonna start storing oil for the winter!

That would be a strange, strange world and it's not like playing Fallout will really help us (except to know its better to have slayer than Stat!). Anarchy will rise up again! I wonder what kind of government will be formed after the anarchy...
 
Err... no. First off, hydroelectric power makes up a significant percentage. Combine that with just minor improvements in solar panels (to make them more efficient, collecting more of the energy that impact them) and minor improvements in batteries (so they store energy more efficiently); and the stage is set.

It's not that scientists are beating their heads over Fusion power; they just have insufficient resources to exploit it. Think of the atomic bomb, if there was a focused effort, where the government would fund such a fusion project limitlessly and with no lack of effort (pulling engineers and scientists from all over the country); something could be worked out. The problem is that there is no incentive right now to spend such an effort, all you have are a few teams of scientists scattered around the globe.

Kahgan, electro-magnetic confinement, look it up.
 
Kotario said:
Err... no. First off, hydroelectric power makes up a significant percentage. Combine that with just minor improvements in solar panels (to make them more efficient, collecting more of the energy that impact them) and minor improvements in batteries (so they store energy more efficiently); and the stage is set.
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Don't forget wind turbines. hey're not as stable/steady as hydroelectric, but they could still be put to considerable use.
The problem is that there is no incentive right now to spend such an effort, all you have are a few teams of scientists scattered around the globe.
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The problem is that the oil industry is too large/powerful/influential.
 
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