Your dad's death in FO3 was stupid, but would this be any better?

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Poopicus Butts

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Also lmao at "this is too cliche, but the final product is not"
 

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If that ending came with the option to shoot dad well before the transformation, then I'm all in.
"Trust me dad, I am having awful preminitions."
 
I think before Fallout 3 was released we already speculated here that Dad would turn out to be Master 2.0.
Both the purifier plot and this plot sucks and shows Emil should never be allowed to write a story script, let alone a Fallout one.
 
In the broadest possible terms, that Dad sacrifices himself to thwart the antagonists was fine. It was just that all of the specifics of the scenario made it asinine. Like, he kills himself to prevent the bad man from hitting the button to turn on the water purifier, which he was going to do anyway (remember the modified FEV was Eden's plan, not Autumn's, and Dad had no way of knowing about that.)

But yeah, this would have been worse. If Dad got turned into a Super Mutant but managed to retain his original intelligence, and became a tragic figure I think that could have worked. That would require Bethesda using the Super Mutants for something other than "enemies you have to shoot a bunch of times" though.
 
While it's still not a good/original story in the traditional sense, it sure would have been an improvement over the "I'm just going to kill myself to incapacitate Autumn, whom I have no reason not to help, to save my son who could probably survive anyway, when literally any other action would have been a better option" death we ended up with.
 
He was worried about avoiding cliches... so he then went with something even more cliche?
 
"And the final version was superior in every ways".

Come on guys, even if you work didn't suck so much, it is never considered as a quality to say that you are good. Let people judge your skills by themselves.
 
If anything, dad's suicide is solely to jolt you with the traumatizing (and personal-history-shaping) experience of watching your dad kill himself. It is like a morbidly selfless sacrifice, in his own twisted way
 
They thought having a sequence with player agency was too cliche so they decided to strong arm you into working for your immortal dad until it was appropiate for him to make a meaningless sacrifice to create cheap drama. Videogame Writting Award winner, people.
 
Hardboiled Android said:
"I must keep these strangers I don't know about from distributing clean water! If they do, then I might not get the credit!"
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well it was obviously more to do with how the enclave are about as trustworthy as Weyland-Yutani and James knew that only too well. As it happens, as you know once you speak to The Pres, he was right.
 
How did James know? Dude has been living in a Vault for 20 years. The Enclave were destroyed 10 before that, and they didn't seem to have any full blown operation at that point. Also why did James install a "Radiation bomb" inside what should just be a giant Water filtering system?
 
Not saying it's a solid plot, but news of the enclave could have gotten around, particularly with James being in the wasteland before entering the vault, as well as him being extremely resourceful and connected with Rivet City, I'd imagine he'd have significant distrust of their intentions - despite their eyebots I get a general lack of trust for them, especially considering the BoS presence and their little disputes with The Enclave, and James having a history with them as well, as well as the possibility of the story of the chosen one becoming legend and moving throughout the wasteland (it did in NV), I find it perfectly reasonable to presume that James had a decent amount of knowledge of how untrustworthy they are.

All of that aside, it's also possible he didn't trust the Enclave's scientists or indeed was generally very anti-authoritarian (wouldn't surprise me considering how chuffed he was to leave the vault, and how he expected the overseer to go crazy) and didn't trust anyone else to handle it. Alternatively, he might have simly been power hungry, but I doubt that.
 
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Not saying it's a solid plot, but news of the enclave could have gotten around, particularly with James being in the wasteland before entering the vault, as well as him being extremely resourceful and connected with Rivet City, I'd imagine he'd have significant distrust of their intentions - despite their eyebots I get a general lack of trust for them, especially considering the BoS presence and their little disputes with The Enclave, and James having a history with them as well, as well as the possibility of the story of the chosen one becoming legend and moving throughout the wasteland (it did in NV), I find it perfectly reasonable to presume that James had a decent amount of knowledge of how untrustworthy they are.

All of that aside, it's also possible he didn't trust the Enclave's scientists or indeed was generally very anti-authoritarian (wouldn't surprise me considering how chuffed he was to leave the vault, and how he expected the overseer to go crazy) and didn't trust anyone else to handle it. Alternatively, he might have simly been power hungry, but I doubt that.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutlore/comments/2k9rt4/james_is_a_psychopath/
 
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