A bit of propaganda

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Easy to miss, one of Bethesda's advertisements promoting Fallout 3 on sites such as Gamespot contains an interesting bit of art, showing an US soldier clad in Bethesdian Powered Armour helping a downtrodden Uncle Sam.

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Yeah, but the pose is kinda... weird. Looks like they're both in a very awkward position, mid-grip or something.

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Also, they already started making web-ads? :?
 
The power armor looks good, but the whole picture just makes it seem like ol' Uncle Sam's done for.

Which goes very much against the grain of the pre-war Fallout, both one and two. There was a sense- lifted from that retro-'50's thing that Bethsoft seems to have completely missed- that the U.S. was invincible, and that no matter what they did, they were in the right.

This picture just seems to imply that the U.S. is doing poorly. It'd make more sense to have Uncle Sam standing up, either fighting alongside the power-armor wearing person, or shaking the person's hand, or something. Not being helped up, though. It really doesn't add up.
 
Moving Target said:
Which goes very much against the grain of the pre-war Fallout, both one and two. There was a sense- lifted from that retro-'50's thing that Bethsoft seems to have completely missed- that the U.S. was invincible, and that no matter what they did, they were in the right.
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"Our dedicated boys keep the peace in the newly annexed Canada"...?
 
I'm gonna disagree on what you said. Old US propaganda was was based on 1/3 patrioticism 1/3 hatred and 1/3 fear. Check out this little number.

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Here fear is the main force in this poster with a nice side dish of hatred for the sinister Hitler/cringe inducing japanese stereotype.
 
What about if it implies that the Lawful Good people of the Brotherhood will help (or completely replace the system of) the post-war USA to 'rise up' from the ashes? Don't view it as a pre-war stuff in my opinion, rather as a new 'scene' with an allegoric meaning.

Or maybe the armored guy only wants to ask the hobo dressed like uncle sam where is the nearest toilet 'cause he's gonna shit himself for good.
 
Yeah. Look at the background. I don't think it's suppose to be pre-war, but post-war art instead. Although the BoS doesn't seem the type to do art. I suppose one of them could learn a bit about the old US and Uncle Sam and therefore be inspired to draw something like this.
 
Barrett said:
Lawful Good people of the Brotherhood
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The BoS of Fallout 3 are not Lawful Good. Just look at the dev diary.
If anything they are Chaotic/Neutral Good, whereas the BoS of Fallout where more of a Lawful Neutral sort.

Yeah, I know: meaningless semantics. It's just been bugging me for a while that people keep using that term.

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Or maybe the armored guy only wants to ask the hobo dressed like uncle sam where is the nearest toilet 'cause he's gonna shit himself for good.
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Hope nobody's gonna be drinking from that toilet. :mrgreen:


Also, also, :drunk:.
 
The power armor looks good, but the whole picture just makes it seem like ol' Uncle Sam's done for.

Which goes very much against the grain of the pre-war Fallout, both one and two. There was a sense- lifted from that retro-'50's thing that Bethsoft seems to have completely missed- that the U.S. was invincible, and that no matter what they did, they were in the right. [...]
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Your point is very valid, but I personally like the Idea. For me it it is implying that the Uncle Sam wasn't enought up for the Task, (maybe the manifestations or some defeat on the front?) so he need the Powered Armor Guy. The Power Armor becomes the new symbol of the US.
Uncle Sam was maybe good enought as a symbole in the 50's, but maybe not anymore for 20??. Hence the "Lend a hand for Uncle Sam".
 
HoKa said:
[Insert generic NMA rant here]
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Make a useful contribution to the discussion, or quit trolling.

Easy to miss, one of Bethesda's advertisements promoting Fallout 3 on sites such as Gamespot contains an interesting bit of art, showing an US soldier clad in Bethesdian Powered Armour helping a downtrodden Uncle Sam.
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I don't think it's possible to bend down in that fashion in powered armor. I recall it being slightly more stiff than shown in that shot, and getting up from the floor was very difficult. Basically, it's what prevented you from effectively sneaking around in powered armor.

Also; Uncle Sam's gaze towards the viewer makes it seem as if he's already dead, and the guy in the armor is just checking him to see if he has anything worthy to loot.

Just my two cents.
 
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Uncle Sam: Aren't you a bit chubby for a Power Armour Trooper?


Mon opinion: Horriblé. That may be the single ugliest and unprofessional bit of Fallout artwork to come from Beth (apart from the scary Vault lady, as seen on Lunch Box).

Though at least it veers off from the Trash elemental armours we've seen.
 
This isn't a Bosch painting here.

Uncle Sam (America) is in trouble.
YOU at home can help Sam(America) by enlisting in the military
The symbol of the military in 2077 was the Power Armor

Remember the power armor helmet with the flag waving in the background, urging you to buy war bonds?
 
I think Target's right. Uncle Sam looks pityful, pathetic and humiliated. His glance is one of anger or frustration, he can be angry at the enemy but in this context its absolutley out of place. Its one thing to be giving the ol' uncle a hand, and another to be helping him up from his knees. The soldier's posture-he indeed looks like he needs to/is taking a dump--is equally akward, totally undignified, as if he were weary of the of the enemy or something.
 
Grayswandir said:
The power armor looks good, but the whole picture just makes it seem like ol' Uncle Sam's done for.

Which goes very much against the grain of the pre-war Fallout, both one and two. There was a sense- lifted from that retro-'50's thing that Bethsoft seems to have completely missed- that the U.S. was invincible, and that no matter what they did, they were in the right. [...]
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Your point is very valid, but I personally like the Idea. For me it it is implying that the Uncle Sam wasn't enought up for the Task, (maybe the manifestations or some defeat on the front?) so he need the Powered Armor Guy. The Power Armor becomes the new symbol of the US.
Uncle Sam was maybe good enought as a symbole in the 50's, but maybe not anymore for 20??. Hence the "Lend a hand for Uncle Sam".
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I dind't like it very much, too. I prefer the Uncle Sam in Fallout's intro, leading the places towards battle. That one is too pessimistic and the Power Armor is a little fugly, though. I would like to see a "Uncle Sam in Power Armor" propaganda, though.

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Slaughter said:
I prefer the Uncle Sam in Fallout's intro, leading the places towards battle.
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Uh. Because the picture you're talking about is an authentic poster from WWII.

On topic, it's not really... bad, but it lacks the composition to be a believable propaganda poster. It looks like a frame out of an animation, not a 'stand alone' artwork supposed to inspire the unwashed masses.
 
Pretty unimportant, but anyways here's a pic of the same image in a differently sized ad, this one with the American Flag in the back ground, and ze aforementioned words: "Lend a hand for Uncle Sam". But why the colon (or semi colon) at the end?

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