A Pre-War Fallout game?

dantoon

First time out of the vault
I've been curious about the world before the Great War. We all probably know that before the war, the world was a futuristic dystopia permanently stuck in the 50s, with crooners and black and white film mixed in with laser guns and power armor. But we don't have much information other than that. What if there was a game that detailed the final months of the world before collapse. Maybe the world could start off as your average idealistic 50s land, but eventually dissolve into complete anarchy after the resources are completely depleted, until the bombs finally drop. So any ideas on who the protagonist would be? I was thinking like a US agent sent to root out any Chinese spies.
 
Just think of the very first Mad Max, or Children of Men. It could be an anarchic world that is on the edge of being completely destroyed.
 
But why a Fallout game? The name Fallout kind of implies nuclear fallout (also the metaphorical kind in the society at large).
 
woo1108 said:
What? you want another Operation Anchorage?

Oh no, that was awful. I hate Bethesdas take on Fallout universe.
It's WAAAY overdone with 50's theme, IMO

So yeah, Mad Max is closer to first Fallouts than anything aout there.
Hell, I have an idea for the title for such mod - Ragnarok. You could use some of ideas from wikipedia about Ragnarok etc.

Such mod should be very shord though.
I would like to see this story start at a day (or few days) before the bombs fell, then seeing how main hero is sealed in a vault. Main hero should be some ghoul (maybe some ghoul from Necropolis aka Bakersfield), that would tell that story... Man, that would be awesome.
 
Lavo said:
Oh no, that was awful. I hate Bethesdas take on Fallout universe. It's WAAAY overdone with 50's theme, IMO

I agree a whole bunch with this. The idea is that history splits, and goes into two different directions. It should not mean that civilization stagnated on the 50s for 100 years -.-

I hate the haircuts in FO3...
 
Lavo said:
woo1108 said:
What? you want another Operation Anchorage?

Oh no, that was awful. I hate Bethesdas take on Fallout universe.
It's WAAAY overdone with 50's theme, IMO

So yeah, Mad Max is closer to first Fallouts than anything aout there.
Hell, I have an idea for the title for such mod - Ragnarok. You could use some of ideas from wikipedia about Ragnarok etc.

Such mod should be very shord though.
I would like to see this story start at a day (or few days) before the bombs fell, then seeing how main hero is sealed in a vault. Main hero should be some ghoul (maybe some ghoul from Necropolis aka Bakersfield), that would tell that story... Man, that would be awesome.
The enemies could be gangs of marauding bikers, who are one of those guys that go "Well the world is going to shit, might as well just go with the flow". The other enemies could possibly be an overzealous US military, who go around declaring martial law and executing anyone that has violated curfew.
 
Well it's not like we know nothing about it. Thw wiki page has about just as much pre-war information as it does post war
 
pyroD said:
Well it's not like we know nothing about it. Thw wiki page has about just as much pre-war information as it does post war

Pre-war's pretty general compared to all the post-war dates õ_o
 
Why not an origins story? Play as Roger Maxson, the opening scene will show you learning about the F.E.V. testing and what he does afterwards, akin to the vault sequence. The open game world would take place a few months after when they leave the base after the war, searching towns for supplies and such and a place to live while fighting to survive.

I don't know how you would continue the main storyline, but it should definitely include the destruction of the Vipers, to do so would mean there would be multiple protagonist however.
 
Yandaton said:
Why not an origins story? Play as Roger Maxson, the opening scene will show you learning about the F.E.V. testing and what he does afterwards, akin to the vault sequence. The open game world would take place a few months after when they leave the base after the war, searching towns for supplies and such and a place to live while fighting to survive.

I don't know how you would continue the main storyline, but it should definitely include the destruction of the Vipers, to do so would mean there would be multiple protagonist however.
I kind of like that idea, but aren't the Vipers a gang formed from Vault 15 dwellers? I don't think its destruction could take place that early. Maxson gets out too early compared to the time the vault is open, I believe. And then, the gang should be formed before it can be destroyed.
dantoon said:
Just think of the very first Mad Max, or Children of Men. It could be an anarchic world that is on the edge of being completely destroyed.
But the pre-war world was all but anarchy.
 
A pre-war game has a lot of potential. You have to think about exactly what society was like before the apocalypse: America was downright totalitarian and terrified of communists around every corner, Europe spent several years locked in a bitter war with the Middle East over oil and started fighting amongst themselves when the oil ran out, America and China began a war both in Anchorage and China itself (where do you think the Gobi Campaign Rifle came from?), the New Plague killed tens of thousands and it got revealed publicly that FEV was a government project (leading to very correct paranoia that the government made the plague), soldiers in power armor were killing civilians during riots, etc.

There's a ton of ideas I could come up with on the spot. Here's some that I just made right now:

* A detective story that begins with LA Noire-style investigation of crimes, pulpy shootouts, and car chases, and segues into the uncovering of the conspiracy to create the New Plague and FEV.

* A large military game involving campaigns in Alaska and China, including attempts to make it back home when the bombs hit.

* A game where you play as a criminal and his descendants throughout the mid and late 21st century, experiencing firsthand events like the New Plague, food riots, and Chinese saboteurs from a civilian perspective.

And keep in mind that these games don't necessarily need to be strict Fallout RPGs. You could do third-person cover based shooters, an FPS, a free roaming sandbox game, etc. The importance is making it true to the Fallout universe and finding new ways to play with the setting, rather than just making RPG after RPG.
 
Eh, I don't know. The concept would have to be treated delicately and not as 100% canon. That's just my opinion though.
I'd rather they get around to Fallout 4 (and not f*ck it up) personally. A pre-war installment to the franchise could be kinda cool though. I guess.
 
I think the book of Eli minus all the god/bible/blind guy memorizes braill and fights like the matrix (but blind) bullshit fits well into a storyline shortly after the war or possibly Falloutish times (though you would have to get rid of the cars or run them on coal dust).... so i guess it doesnt really fit either.
 
If there's the war of Anchorage happening, then it's not BEFORE THE WAR. It's actually during the war, before the bombs.
 
To be honest, it would be fascinating to see what a typical American city would look like before the bombs fell, even for just a day.

"MY EYES, MY EYES, SO MANY PURE HUMANS....GAAAAAAH!" *explodes in sensational euphoria*
 
EnclaveForever said:
To be honest, it would be fascinating to see what a typical American city would look like before the bombs fell, even for just a day.

"MY EYES, MY EYES, SO MANY PURE HUMANS....GAAAAAAH!" *explodes in sensational euphoria*

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Found in the fallout 2 manual. When I saw this as a kid I dreamed of somehow finding this place in the game files or something.
 
Too bad those two critters are not in the game. Would add some variety and would look cool in New Reno perhaps...
 
Oppen said:
If there's the war of Anchorage happening, then it's not BEFORE THE WAR. It's actually during the war, before the bombs.

The Great War specifically refers to the nuclear exchange.
 
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