Are Fallout Fan Boys Blinded By Nostalgia?

CT Phipps said:
I liked the story of... Fallout 3
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How you gonna be a writer and like a story with a premise that doesn't make sense in its own setting, has so many plot holes that its basically broken, and has no interesting characters with complex motivations?

Im not criticizing you it just seems odd.
 
R.Graves said:
How you gonna be a writer and like a story with a premise that doesn't make sense in its own setting, has so many plot holes that its basically broken, and has no interesting characters with complex motivations?

Im not criticizing you it just seems odd.
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He likes the worldbuilding and characters. Writing in games sucks for the most part. I liked Fawkes and a few others.
 
R.Graves said:
How you gonna be a writer and like a story with a premise that doesn't make sense in its own setting, has so many plot holes that its basically broken, and has no interesting characters with complex motivations?

Im not criticizing you it just seems odd.
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How dare you like something I dont! Disgusting.
 
TorontRayne said:
He likes the worldbuilding and characters. Writing in games sucks for the most part. I liked Fawkes and a few others.
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Fawkes is an ass. Sure he grabs the G.E.C.K for you if you so wish, but then at the end with the purifier, despite being totally immune to radiation, tells you that it's your destiny to go in there.

Fuck destiny, get your ass in there Fawkes.
 
Is this a thread confusing nostalgia with logic...again?

While I can only speak for myself I can admit there is a slight nostalgia factor for the originals, however they are justified by the quality and inherent logic within those games. When compared to the more recent titles, if one has done their research, the divergence is rather obvious.

My intention with the above statement is not to reduce, point a finger, or state that someone is wrong based on their opinion. My statement is only reinforced by the facts provided by the original titles when compared to the more recent releases.

*Mic drop*

I also must point out the whole point of this thread is to be reductionist in a very negative way and will inevitably lead to someone's feelings being trampled. Can't we just grow up and discuss this finally like adults with weapons made of reason and facts for a change. Or are we forever chained to combating an imaginary force with logic?
 
Prone Squanderer said:
Fawkes is an ass. Sure he grabs the G.E.C.K for you if you so wish, but then at the end with the purifier, despite being totally immune to radiation, tells you that it's your destiny to go in there.

Fuck destiny, get your ass in there Fawkes.
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That is due to the shit writing. He could have been better in the hands of Obsidian. He made the game playable for me.
 
R.Graves said:
How you gonna be a writer and like a story with a premise that doesn't make sense in its own setting, has so many plot holes that its basically broken, and has no interesting characters with complex motivations?

Im not criticizing you it just seems odd.
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It's not a case of "gonna be a writer" so much as the fact I am a writer who happens to like it.

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Mind you, I think people don't believe you're one until you're either sold at Walmart or get a television series made out of your stuff. I got the Supervillainy Saga asked about by a television company but they didn't choose to proceed in buying the rights. Which is a shame.

But why do I love Fallout 3? Well, it boils down to the fact I'm actually mostly interested in it due to the satire of America. I think that's something which Fallout 3 really did well and the other games kind of ignore so it doesn't have as much appeal for me. The pathos of nuclear war contrasted to the blasted ruins of Washington D.C. with the addition of stories that talk about the legacy of America's dual idealism as well as hypocrisy. Fallout 3 is a work of art in satirizing America and also feeling genuine remorse for its destruction.

There's something genuinely haunting about traveling through the ruins of Washington D.C. and doing such tasks as trying to find the Bill of Rights and Declaration of Indepedence to inspire new generations of American citizens in Rivet City while also fighting against slavers in the shadow of Abraham Lincoln's statue. America was destroyed by war mongering and greed as personified by the Enclave and John Henry Eden. Men who stood behind the flag and murdered the world rather than lose power.

Yet, you can unite the people of the Capital Wasteland and save them from that evil a second time. There was a little of this satire in Fallout 2 and I think that's in large part why I love 2 over 1. 1 satirizes movies. 2 satirizes the Military Industrial Complex and American exceptionalism.

For me, Fallout 3 is about the Enclave, Tranquility Lane, the blasted ruins of Washington, the haunting stories of the dead at the police station, and fighting slavers. It's a flawed masterpiece but one with actual things to say.

Which I can't say about Fallout 4.
 
CT Phipps said:
Amusingly, COD: Ghosts and COD: Advanced Warfare are some of the few negative reviews I've given.

But yes, 8/10 is a decent solid game I devoted time to playing.

6/10 is "barely worth playing"

10/10 is a great game.

Fallout 3 and Skyrim were great games.

Fallout 4? Not so much.
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Wut.

5/10 is a perfectly 'average' game, think of, I dunno...Modern Warfare or something?

6 out of 10 is better, 7 is certainly above average.

8 out of ten is a good game, nine of 10 amazing.

10 out of 10, FLAWLESS, no issues for its genre/sort of game.
 
R.Graves said:
People tend to forget that anything above 5/10 is a positive rating it seems.
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Go figures, considering the state of journalism.

I mean, jesus christ, No Man's Sky was getting like 9/10 reviews and shit, and the reaction was 'meh' at most.
 
R.Graves said:
People tend to forget that anything above 5/10 is a positive rating it seems.
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It's because of the so-called game 'journalists' or game 'critics', like IGN and the likes of those fucks. One minute you would hear from them how a game is disappointing or how it's a step-down compared to other games, and a minute later they would give it 8/10.
 
Black Angel said:
It's because of the so-called game 'journalists' or game 'critics', like IGN and the likes of those fucks. One minute you would hear from them how a game is disappointing or how it's a step-down compared to other games, and a minute later they would give it 8/10.
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I lost my faith entirely when every CoD series was getting like 8-9-10 out of 10.

Eugh.
 
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