Battlestar Galactica

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JR Jansen

Water Chip? Been There, Done That
I'm in the process of looking at season 2 of the remake of this series and man is it good. It's even post-apoc, kinda.
Imo, it's even better then the original and that's something that can't usually be said about remakes. Usually the remake sucks but this is the exeption to the rule i guess.
It's a lot more violent and grittier then the original (to be expected) with a lot more death, durgs and sex (sound familiar)
And one more thing. Finally a series in wich the characters smoke. I mean, TV these days seems to be geared towards the health mafia.
For all those that like to watch sci-fi, i can recommand this series.
 
you won't like the end of the season though ;)

but yeah, great series.

PS: as for smoking characters, who cares?
 
Oh boy, I'm soooo killing the smoking character in my book in the most gruesome way ever written down.


BG. I've only seen a couple shots. Is it good enough for a torrent or a dvd-box?
 
SuAside said:
PS: as for smoking characters, who cares?
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Normally, i wouldn't. It did cought my attention though and that says something in itself. If something is so different that it catches your attention that means that it isn't used in most other things of the same type.
Just look at TV and films lately. The characters that smoke are either the bad guys or they get killed of anyway. But here they are 'the good guys''.
And it just isn't the smoking but these guys drink booze like their is no tomorrow. Makes you wonder how they are still able to fly them Vipers.

Is it good enough for a DVD box. IMO it is.
 
The original series centered around the evil Cylons and space combat in every episode, with the characters peripheral and shallow archetypes. The current series focuses on the people, with the background of a space drama. Thus, it is hard to compare the two series beyond the basic setting and timing.

Having watched most of the original series and all the current, I must say that I prefer the new series. The original seems quaint and one-dimensional.

BSG is in my opinion the best show on television right now.

Oh, and the smoking doesn't seem to me to be used to denote good vs evil or any other main archetype. Rather it is a comment on the slow grind of monotony and stress that they are under. In other words, realistic.
 
Murdoch said:
Oh, and the smoking doesn't seem to me to be used to denote good vs evil or any other main archetype. Rather it is a comment on the slow grind of monotony and stress that they are under. In other words, realistic.
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Your missing the point. The comment i made about it is that in most other shows and/or films it's used as i said it is, but in this show it's different.

Oh, and Michelle Forbes is great as admiral Cain and the guy that plays Baltar should win an emmy for that performance.
 
The new BSG is great, loved the first few episode's from season 3. The graphics's when the Galactica jumped into orbit an launched the vipers was superb an the bit of the story involving Starbuck in the episode in question with that Cylon (number 4 i believe) was pure genius.
 
Yeah,
I have to agree the guy who plays Balter is amazing... definitely the most realistic antagonist on television. And the stories seems to actually matter (I mean relatable to real life, instead of some random dude killing millions of terrorists every season- Ahem, 24). Definately worth purchasing if you can't get it through Cable.
 
You don't want to download it in crappy quality, even legal methods aren't up to par. Buy the DVD.
 
Baltar: The most conflicted and complex character I've seen in any recent TV shows.
 
I've just recently obtained season one and two. If you are a fan at all of Scifi shows pick this up, you will not be disappointed.
 
Speaking for myself I don't get BSG at all. I don't like any of the characters and there's too much whining and not enough action!

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I don't know how the characters would have time to have affairs, nervous break downs, fall in love with Cylons and get drunk on duty, when they are supposed to be fighting for the survival of their race. Its no wonder the Cylons defeated them. :)

Also Caprica is supposed to be nuked and highly radioactive and yet there are people living there and the forests are healthy.

So I'm wondering are the Cylons trying to exterminate human kind or not? If so wouldn't they have nuked Caprica until there was nothing left but ashes?

The other thing that bugged me about the return to Caprica, was they were using US army vehicles (Humvees and troop transports). What's with that?

Also if they are running away from Caprica and searching for Earth, wouldn't they have moved out of range by now? They obviously haven't, so why are they hanging around?

I'm sorry but I think the show is annoying. :lol:

EDIT:
If you look around the net you'll find the original BSG fans hate the new BSG. They remind me of Fallout fans and Fallout 3. :lol:
 
The new season of BSG is terrible. This last season has been nothing but filler and many of the characters that I used to like, now make me sick. Any time Apollo or Starbuck of the Chief is on screen they're whining about their marriage... WTF? I used to love Gaius Baltar, now I don't even care about him. If something interesting doesn't happen soon then I'm done with BSG.
 
Yeah it's a dreadful show. And going from a classic action show to a plodding political snooze seems as much a travesty as going from a classic CRPG to an action hack & slash.

It's badly written, so many plot holes you could fly a fleet of vipers through. The one major plot twist that they could of pulled out of the bag, towards the end of season 3 - middle of season 4, to inject new life into the show once fan attention starts to flag, they go and give away in the opening titles of the pilot and each show. I didn't mind them changing it so that humans created the cylons, but they should of built it up, dropped a few hints each week and saved the revelation for when they run out of plot ideas.

The production values seem really skewed. On one hand they've got the fancy flight suits, but on the other people are wearing suit and ties. The episodes with the hummer really bugged me, even the Logan's Run series back in the seventies had a futuristic ground car. If they were on a limited budget surely they could of used a more generic vehicle, and dressed it up a bit with some foam and papier mache.

I really hate this parallel with current earth culture, the presidency is bad enough but did they have to base the sets on airforce one, and the oval office? That plus the modern business clothing, the real world weapons and vehicles without any attempt to futurise them really makes it hard to suspend any disbelief. I mean what are the odds that they would develop so many things the same, at least the original show attempted to have their own technology, fashion and government.

I don't mind the gender and race changes to the characters, but did they have to make Apollo so much of a whiner? He's gone from the heroic figure to a whinging pom. Baltar is the only character with any depth, but really is it the character that's interesting or the sex scenes?

I'd totally disagree with Murdoch, watching the reruns recently and the original had far more depth to it, it's the new show that's one dimensional and quaint. All they ever do is complain, drink and shag.

It's on a par with Galatica 80, nowhere near the level of the original, or more recent sci-fi shows.
 
I like the pure action of some episodes an the politics of some of the other's.

I think that the Cylons did not nuke caprica back to the stone age because they wanted it for themselves. An the people who where running round in the woods where the lucky survivors. The Hummer did not annoy me to much but what did annoy me was there was not enough info given on the Communications buoy that made the cylons sick an die.

One thing i would like to see though is the amount of Vipers decrease an more built on the fly type ships like in the episode with the Blackbird stealth craft an also the galactica rigging out some of the bigger civilian ships with basic weapons systems.
 
Hybrids don't always work, I loved the West Wing, but the this isn't even on par with the Commander in Chief. The action is just as boring as the politics, limp and uninteresting.

The blackbird craft they built, hello can anyone say Delta Flyer, and even Voyager wasn't original in doing that. I'll be glad when all the new vipers go, bloody ugly things. Still that would still leave all the new cylon raiders, bastard offspring of Romulan Warbirds that they are! I laughed at the mini-series when one of the pilots mentioned the lack of a cockpit, they look like they've got more room for a pilot inside than the originals which were meant to seat 3.

One thing I'd like to see is the show cancelled.
 
One of my dreams has been to produce an Ebony porno called Bootystar Balactica.

BSG is terrible, though. What a shit show. :(
 
Davaris said:
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If you look around the net you'll find the original BSG fans hate the new BSG. They remind me of Fallout fans and Fallout 3. :lol:
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There is one big difference between the two. BSG is a remake and Fallout 3 is supposed to be a sequel.
A remake is a story that is at the base the same but told differently, for example War of the worlds. A sequel builds on the stories that were told before, like Blade.
The problem that people have with the new BSG seems to be just that. They wanted a sequel and got a remake.
As a fan of the old and the new series, i must say the new one is better. It's more interesting. More character driven shows. But i can see where most of those that don't like the show are comming from. If you were expecting an action show, you'll be disappointed. Allthough the space battles in this show are far bigger then the originals.
People complain about the characters whining all the time. Well, look at it this way. They are couped up in a closed environment with mostly the same people all the time. Conflicts will arise. Something the original never touched upon and what makes it, to some, more interestng.
Remember it's a remake, not a sequel.

Oh and i find it a bit cheap to say they ripped of Star trek because the raiders 'look like' Romulan warbirds (they really don't, very different design) and that the stealth ship is just like the Delta flyer. The producers probably realised that they couldn't just keep loosing Vipers and that they had to make new ones or make new ships. The Blackbird was made prior to the 'Pegasus' shows. Later they said that the Pegasus crew was making new Vipers but before that they had to do it themselves. And besides the Blackbird plays a huge role in the episode were they destroy the 'Ressurection' ship. Maybe the writers knew they were going to need this en that it was that important that they had to write a show around it.
 
It is Crap! Being a remake doesn't excuse it from being pure drivel. Yes I was expecting an action show because why bother remaking something and then totally trashing it? Sure remakes should be different, scene for scene remakes are pointless after all, but to remake it as a third rate West Wing in space that is so boring that not even the limp action scenes and unsexy sex scenes can spice up?

Yes the space combat is bigger, it's been 29 years after all. If that's the only plus then it just goes to show what a poor program it is. And on the subject of special effects, the originals still hold up. Considering that the special effects cost comparitively more back then, and they had less of their budget left over, they still managed to design more original costumes, sets and culture. Unlike todays show which just copies real life Earth wholesale.

Yeah conflicts will arise between people, and did in the original show maybe not so much between the main cast but in the society as a whole. But the new show is definately a product of it's times as it's all they seem to do.

Check the 'head' of the new raiders, it's extremely reminiscent of a D'deridex class Warbird's prow. So totally different from the original raiders, which could of been redesigned without a cockpit while not losing their design heritage.

It would of been obvious from watching the original series that a some point they would start to run out of vipers. Yet the writers don't have Adama initate any replacement program, but have the chief build a ship as a hobby. Tigh even tries to put a stop to the project, can't he count how many fighters they have left? It's just shoddy writing, poor planning and just comes across as something tacked on as an after thought just like the Delta Flyer.
 
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