Does anyone remember significant backlash for Arcade and Veronica?

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The recent outrage about Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear including a transsexual character prompting people to be pissed off about that and renewing the story that gamers are terrible people got me curious. Was there any significant backlash against New Vegas for including gay and somewhat bi-curious characters?
I don't remember there being any, but New Vegas wasn't that big a game, and people were less sensitive to issues vaguely related to "political correctness".
But then people were kinda angry about every companion in Fallout 4 being bisexual, if I remember correctly.
So does anyone remember there being much backlash against New Vegas?
 
I don't remember there being any, but people are generally more accepting of gay/lesbian people now. Trans... not so much, it's a newer thing (by internet standards, plus the advent of social media pushed issues like that to the fore). Fallout 4 did go way too far the other way, but it's Bethesda: player power fantasy is literally everything and they design their entire game around that, including – it now seems – letting them screw anything that moves.
 
No, not really. In fact, FNV was quite often praised for basically being one of the few games that had gay and lesbian characters which acted natural, and whose homosexuality was not the only and the most important personality trait. Above all, they weren't just walking fuck-me holes a la Bioware.
 
Weren't the Dragon Age games full of gay/bi/trans characters too and no one cared even though Bioware is pretty much synonymous with ham-fisted writing at this point?
 
PlanHex said:
Weren't the Dragon Age games full of gay/bi/trans characters too and no one cared even though Bioware is pretty much synonymous with ham-fisted writing at this point?
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In that matter the series reached its climax in Dragon Age 2, where pretty much all companions were bisexual (besides two or three exceptions).
 
I remember someone complaining about the perk that gives extra damage agains´t males because it opened special conversation (flirting) with males. With Arcade and Veronica don´t remember nothing. Maybe the crybabies just didn´t noticed it.
 
Honestly, neither companion puts it in your face that they're gay, you have to go through their dialogue to pick up the hints (some less subtle, some clearly stating via references to past partners). I can't imagine the sort of people who'd complain about it are the type to actually bother with dialogue, they just want to shoot and loot, so maybe they simply missed it entirely ;)
 
In all honesty, they were just very well written. There's a difference between shoving it in there for the sake of diversity and building up their characteristics. I think someone may have complained that there was too much of it all. But even then, it was really nothing at all to it.
 
It's a bit more out in the open with Veronica, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people never even realized that Arcade was gay, it's not like he wears it on his sleeve. There's some tells, like being responsive to a male player character with the correct perk, but other than that I think there are only two times when speaking to him that he makes mention of his sexuality, and one of those times just says there weren't any other women in his life besides Daisy, which could mean a whole variety of things.
 
There was no backlash, because there was no praise. Most mainstream sites and newspapers completely ignore Fallout: New Vegas when discussing homosexuality in video games.
 
I think not allowing Veronica to go into Dead Money was a mistake, and her reuniting with Christine probably would have gotten it some well deserved attention.
 
Spacemunkey said:
I think not allowing Veronica to go into Dead Money was a mistake, and her reuniting with Christine probably would have gotten it some well deserved attention.
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I'd be all for Veronica being involved in Dead Money if it weren't for Bethesda's garbage engine, where dramatic scenes go to die.
 
Atomkilla said:
No, not really. In fact, FNV was quite often praised for basically being one of the few games that had gay and lesbian characters which acted natural, and whose homosexuality was not the only and the most important personality trait. Above all, they weren't just walking fuck-me holes a la Bioware.
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Nor were they the types who pushed the agenda in the PC's face. I really hate that stuff. It happens a lot more in reality then some like to think.
 
Spacemunkey said:
I think not allowing Veronica to go into Dead Money was a mistake, and her reuniting with Christine probably would have gotten it some well deserved attention.
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I was always disappointed that there wasn't anything for Veronica and Christine. Even a quick dialogue from the Courier, something simple like letting Veronica know she's alive when the Courier returns to the Mojave, would have been nice but then I'm just a sentimental sap.
 
People have started, rightly so, to accept gays and lesbians in video games
Many people these days just find trans a bit strange, and I am not trying to be offensive, I have spoken to people who think so.
It is probably just best to not specify sexuality in video games, to avoid kerfuffles over it
 
If people take issue with it, that's their problem, not the game's. All that matters is well-written characters, and if the characters are gay, bi, straight or trans, that's fine by me. I'd rather sexuality is brought up rather than hidden for fear of offending.

That's why Fallout 4 's "bi" characters are so insulting. They exist only because Bethesda was too lazy to write interesting characters, yet they were praised for it.
 
Earth said:
If people take issue with it, that's their problem, not the game's. All that matters is well-written characters, and if the characters are gay, bi, straight or trans, that's fine by me. I'd rather sexuality is brought up rather than hidden for fear of offending.

That's why Fallout 4 's "bi" characters are so insulting. They exist only because Bethesda was too lazy to write interesting characters, yet they were praised for it.
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I wouldn't even catergorize FO4 companions as BI, that makes it seem like there is depth, they are playersexual. As for people having a problem with certain types of people in games, fuck'em. Also fuck those people who bitch about under-representation too; write a good character, give them some depth and if while writing the character you feel that they are gay/bi/straight and this is important to convey this character and who they are then do it.
 
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