Evil Avatar: Fallout - an outside perspective

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Evil Avatar is offering us a weird bit, an editorial by someone who is playing Fallout 2 for the first time.<blockquote>Whenever a discussion about Fallout would arise, I never had anything to contribute. And for the most part, it never bothered me. As the years have progressed, however, this simple "Game" has become less so, and more an item in gaming pop culture. It began to irk me that there was a beautiful, immutable experience - shared by many of my brethren - that I could not be a part of.

The upcoming advent of The third installment of the series has only made things worse. Existing fans in the series were whipped into a fervor about it. I saw the trailer - and it inspired no excitement from me. All it was was a broken radio playing a classic song. I was unaware of the series' penchant for using such scenes in the opening. Everyone seemed so excited about the game, and as more details were uncovered, comparison with past iterations of the series inevitably came up. It was by casually observing one of these that I discovered that Fallout 2 was turn-based.

This immediately caught my attention, as I hold a special place in my heart for turn-based games. Over the past few weeks, my interest with the game became increasingly apparent - even bordering on obsession.</blockquote>Link: Fallout - from the perspective of an outsider (ongoing).

Spotted on Gamebanshee.
 
He should've played Fallout to get a good feel of the setting.

Also, he made a character that focused on strength and charisma? An....interesting choice, to say the least. Especially if he takes the Baldur's Gate way out and simply robs most other stats.

But it's an interesting try-out in any case. I wonder how it'll progress.
 
I freak out everytime I hear someone is playing fallout 2 for the first time; with the world map travel issue, I imagine it would partially ruin the experience.
 
Mingus said:
I freak out everytime I hear someone is playing fallout 2 for the first time
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So do I, as, I assume, many others must. Most people just do not "get" Fallout and view one/us as (a) lunatic(s);
with the world map travel issue, I imagine it would partially ruin the experience.
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True. Though asking them to install a mod to combat this is unlikely to breed favour.
 
I don't know... After the guy said he liked TB games, I'm much more keen on agreeing with him. Maybe it's stupid of me... Maybe it's the kind of stupidity Bethesda induces into people with their half-assed cult-raping games... -_-
 
I'm a Fallout newbie too -- for the same reasons (mainly the advent of Fallout 3 hype). I started with Fallout a few weeks ago and am now playing Fallout 2.

There was nothing to dislike about Fallout 1, in my opinion -- it was excellent in every respect.

Not done with Fallout 2, but it only suffers from being more of the same -- not any serious issues for me.

I think if Fallout 3 were exactly modeled after Fallout 1 and 2 that would be too much of a good thing for me -- I want some surprises. For example, Van Buren (cancelled Fallout 3) seemed a bit lame. On the other hand, just keeping the name and changing everything else would be not enough of a good thing -- so, we'll see on Fallout 3.

Nonetheless, I can relate to the author's reasons for trying Fallout (I just think he should have started with the Original -- even if he had to play it on a PC).
 
Allen63 said:
I'm a Fallout newbie too -- for the same reasons (mainly the advent of Fallout 3 hype). I started with Fallout a few weeks ago and am now playing Fallout 2.

There was nothing to dislike about Fallout 1, in my opinion -- it was excellent in every respect.

Not done with Fallout 2, but it only suffers from being more of the same -- not any serious issues for me.

I think if Fallout 3 were exactly modeled after Fallout 1 and 2 that would be too much of a good thing for me -- I want some surprises. For example, Van Buren (cancelled Fallout 3) seemed a bit lame. On the other hand, just keeping the name and changing everything else would be not enough of a good thing -- so, we'll see on Fallout 3.

Nonetheless, I can relate to the author's reasons for trying Fallout (I just think he should have started with the Original -- even if he had to play it on a PC).
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The original game was released for Mac as well.
In fact, there was much doubt about Fallout 2 being released on Mac or not.
Come to think of it, I'm not even sure Fallout 2 *was* released on Mac.
 
Yes, Fallout 2 was released for Mac in 2002. The problem with FO1's Mac version is that it doesn't run under MacOS X, while FO2's does.
 
Sander said:
The original game was released for Mac as well.
In fact, there was much doubt about Fallout 2 being released on Mac or not.
Come to think of it, I'm not even sure Fallout 2 *was* released on Mac.
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As Tim Hume complains of in his profile, it wasn't.

However, MacPlay produced a port of Fallout 2, released in 2002.

FO1's Mac version is that it doesn't run under MacOS X,
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According to Tim Hume, it does, but the OS X port removed the talking PIPBoy. Maybe the older versions don't work on OS X?
 
Sander said:
Come to think of it, I'm not even sure Fallout 2 *was* released on Mac.
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Then why is everyone complaining about the combat interface in the G/T forum? They do it just to spite us!!
 
Anyway, even if FO1 does run under MacOS X, the Mac version is probably harder to get than in case of FO2, which has been ported in 2002, since there haven't been as many re-releases as with the PC version.
 
I too, am new to Fallout. Everytime I played an RPG before (Except with some rare cases, mostly with games that garnered critical accaim but didn't sell well, much like Fallout) there seemed to be an element missing. Fallout was one of the few games that had that element, freedom. Not the illusion of it, like Oblivion or similar games have, but the real thing. It's only the sad truth that the masses prefer the illusion over the real thing. If only illusions weren't convincing. :cry:
 
Well, I've been clutching at straws for hopes of a real Fallout sequel on the horizon, and here's one...

It's encouraging to see that the (pre-marketing) hype already rising around "Fallout 3" is actually getting more people to play the original games. This, in turn, will likely garner new fans - of which at least some will see the travesty in Bethesda's "sequel" if it is indeed made as it looks at this point. That means the hunger for a real sequel will be even wider felt, and the inherent promise of revenue in a game that, while it can't take its cue directly from the Fallout franchise without being sued to oblivion (excuse the cheap pun) and back by Bethesda, will at least focus on reflecting the elements that made Fallout great.
 
Yep, the more people that play through FO/FO2 for the first time, the worse it will be for BethSoft.
 
Is this true?? I've never seen this mentioned. This is pulled directly from the Evil Avatar forums:

My friend, however, got a very different game than I did, and I suspect that he probably had more fun. He's the type to screw around with his character creations, and he had his strength pumped all the way up, while significantly sacrificing his intelligence. The effects on his game were extreme: he could barely communicate with anyone, mostly speaking in grunts. The opening movie was different ("You. Go. Klamath. Klamaaaaath."). And when he met truly mentally challenged NPCs, the types of NPCs that would have spoken to my character in grunts, they understood each other completely, with high english. "Good day, m'lord, how goes your afternoon." Hilarious.
 
Weird that he is starting with FO2, that's a bit wrong. I hope he has read the manual, otherwise he probably won't know what the hell is going on!

Anyway it is good that he is making the effort, 10 bottle caps say he will have problems fuelling the car :P
 
Well, my last girlfriend played Fallout for the first time, and I realised how frustrating it is to watch. It's cool that they get into it, but man.
"No click and HOLD the button, no NOT the left"
It was frustrating but she got it after a while.
But, this guy seems to be on the right track.
 
The first time I played Fallout I borrowed from a friend - just the CD, no manual. I had no trouble learning how the interface and combat worked.
 
jfreund said:
The first time I played Fallout I borrowed from a friend - just the CD, no manual. I had no trouble learning how the interface and combat worked.
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Same exact story here. Since then I have purchased several copies over the years (due to lent out copes that were not returned) and continue to play Fallout 1&2 to this day.


This article is a really neat read. It's interesting and exciting to see people trying Fallout. It's even more neat to read their fresh and unique thoughts on FO1&2.

I hope to see more here that are new to Fallout and read what they have to say about their experiences.
 
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