Fallout 3 petition

Shees!

I aint gunna sign a rediculous petition like that. "make Falllout 3 properly"??? A statement like that leaves so much ambiguity it is pointless to demand it. Even Chuckles was trying to do FOBOS properly.

Isometric view, turn based combat and even SPECIAL are still only a means to an end. What made Fallout a good game for me was the intriguing setting, the non-linear and multiple approach to the storyline, adn the depth of side plots, subquests and little things to explore.

As far as consoles go. Releasing a game onto console does not garauntee that it will be bad, shallow or anything else. The market is still crying out for a couple of good PC style rpgs on consoles so I think it would be a good move.

And by the way, what the f*ck is a "real fallout fan"? Do people fake being fallout fans like my girlfriend fakes her orgasms?
 
MadDog -[TO said:
-]Why do idiots make stupid comments in the comment field?

PIPBOY16 I WANT FALLOUT 3 TO BE LIKE FALLOUT 2 BUT WITH BIGGER GRAPHICS AND BETTER SOUND AND MAKE IT ONLINE FOR X-BOX LIFE PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Like that one :). I nearly wet myself when i saw that...
 
If you need to ask what a real fallout fan is...then you have CLEARLY not been in the Fallout scene for long. People that do not cater to the utter bullshit that was Tactics and FOPOS. People that have taken any amount of heat and derision from weekend players accussing us of being meanies and uptights assholes to put it nicely. People that will not take anything less than the enhanced, improved and updated, while true to the classic, F3 that the community deserves. Herve ruined that dream for us...I'll not have my heart broken again. They'll eat vitriol first.
 
Oh please, Skynet. I've been kicking around the boards for two or three years now so I know what the deal is and what he means by "real fallout fan". It's just such an inane statement. If you are a fan of the games then you are a fallout fan. What is really meant is fallout extremist. That's closer to what we are. It is like the difference between being religious and being a religious extremist.

What scares me is that we might see another hairy deathclaw with thong, a rockin sound track, glow in the dark condoms, vehicles, planes and zepplins. I don't really care about the view or the combat mechanism. I always spend more time talking to NPCs than shooting them, yet nobody is asking for a good conversation interface. Those things are just the facade, I want good foundations. But that aint what the poll is asking for.
 
The poll is merely a device to get their attention. Once we get a good bargaining position, we'll go for bigger things. IF we get a bargaining position, that is.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that Tactics had all three of those things.

But whatever, I signed it anyways. If anything they're what made Tactics a good game in its own right despite the numerous universe infringements.

Though, you could say that Tactics is a universe all its own, seeing as how the Brotherhood remained the recluses they were in Fallout 2.
 
What does anyone have to lose by signing the petition? Holding out for a "better petition" doesn't make much sense either, this is just nailing down the basics and checking to see if the Bethesda developers are really listening to the fanbase.

Well, 2822 signatures as I write this post. 3000 signatures in such a short time period certainly is impressive.
 
Bradylama said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that Tactics had all three of those things.

But whatever, I signed it anyways. If anything they're what made Tactics a good game in its own right despite the numerous universe infringements.

Though, you could say that Tactics is a universe all its own, seeing as how the Brotherhood remained the recluses they were in Fallout 2.



What the fuck have you been smoking ?

The turnbased mode in tactics is crap man.
 
skynet said:
The poll is merely a device to get their attention. Once we get a good bargaining position, we'll go for bigger things. IF we get a bargaining position, that is.

Yeh. I guess you are right.

I just don't think you'll get anyone's attention by asking them to "make it what the fans want" and "make it properly". It is like starting a protest and making a chant of "WE DEMAND THAT YOU STOP DOING THAT THING!". It is not a demand. It is simply an excersise in ambiguity.
 
The turnbased mode in tactics is crap man.

Why is that, praytell? Is it because initiative actually meant something? I'd seriously like to know how Tactics's turnbased mode is fundamentally different from those in Fallout and Fallout 2.
 
Bradylama said:
The turnbased mode in tactics is crap man.

Why is that, praytell? Is it because initiative actually meant something? I'd seriously like to know how Tactics's turnbased mode is fundamentally different from those in Fallout and Fallout 2.

It's been a while since I've played either gameset but... I don't think it was different at all (that I can recall)
 
Fallout Tactics turn based:

  • Lacked "sliding" from an excessive hit. This is important for melee characters.
  • Had a poorly implimented interrupt system.
  • Didn't work with mission scripts that required timers.
  • Didn't kick in until after someone took damage, as opposed to Fallout and Fallout 2 where it started when someone went hostile.
  • Didn't have hex based play for that tabletop feeling.
 
Saint_Proverbius said:
Didn't kick in until after someone took damage, as opposed to Fallout and Fallout 2 where it started when someone went hostile.

Heh, that reminds me of Arcanum. There you are minding your own business, when suddenly people come streaking across the screen, flailing their arms and legs wildly! They bear down on you rapidly, shouting battle cries, and just when they're within club's reach they raise their weapons and... FREEZE.
 
I thought I should inform you all that I might close down the petition. Not only does it seem to have come to a full stop, but people are adding me over MSN to insult or mock me, at least three times today. If this continues, I'll either change it or just close it down. I can't take lowlife dipshits who make online prank calls, because they found my address over a petition. And if they're reading this, I hope they look back at their pathetic little excuses of a life, and realize they're nothing but shit on my shoe.

Baboon.
 
Baboon said:
I thought I should inform you all that I might close down the petition. Not only does it seem to have come to a full stop, but people are adding me over MSN to insult or mock me, at least three times today. If this continues, I'll either change it or just close it down. I can't take lowlife dipshits who make online prank calls, because they found my address over a petition. And if they're reading this, I hope they look back at their pathetic little excuses of a life, and realize they're nothing but shit on my shoe.

Baboon.

Pathetic. And to think THe Bethsoft devs decide to accuse of us being super nerds and people who pollute their forums. Fuck them.
 
Baboon said:
I thought I should inform you all that I might close down the petition. Not only does it seem to have come to a full stop, but people are adding me over MSN to insult or mock me, at least three times today. If this continues, I'll either change it or just close it down. I can't take lowlife dipshits who make online prank calls, because they found my address over a petition. And if they're reading this, I hope they look back at their pathetic little excuses of a life, and realize they're nothing but shit on my shoe.

Baboon.

There`s an option not to make your mail known. Still leave that one on the page, close it for good on Msn and create a new one. Problem solved, i had to do it a few times myself. And if you get their info send it to us, we`ll take care of them for you ;)
 
Mr. Teatime said:
Pathetic. And to think THe Bethsoft devs decide to accuse of us being super nerds and people who pollute their forums. Fuck them.

As far as I've seen, the Bethesda fanboys have been far, far, far worse than any of the Fallout people. Then again, I haven't really looked on the Elder Scrolls forum's Fallout thread but I do know how spammy they've been on both NMA and RPG Codex.
 
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