Matt Drax
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Fallout 2 mod Fallout et tu - Release v1.11
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No it´s a Fallout collection with Fallout 1+2 and Fallout tactics on CD-rom, which I bought some years ago..
laclongquan
Boned Hunter of Sister
Keep it protected~ I lose mine years ago and all this electronic sheeesh just cant keep me happy.
agris
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
How do I disable (1) companions leveling and (2) companions wearing armor?
I’ve dug into the mods, settings and sfall INIs, but I’m not seeing these options.
I’ve dug into the mods, settings and sfall INIs, but I’m not seeing these options.
You can remove levels in party.ini and change the visuals to whatever you want in party_armor.ini of the armor mod.
agris
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Since both are vanilla Fallout 1 behavior, you may want to offer users an easier way to get the OG fallout experience.
Edit: there is no party.ini, and I don’t see relevant sections in any of the usual suspect INIs.
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Fallout EtTu is a mod..
want OG Falout1 experience play Fo1 instead, or learn to deal with the settings you want, and don't talk Lexx into ruining experience of the newbs trying to play..
This was the same deal with FOnline 2238 first Lexx came around and started adding features to the game for everybody.. and everyone was happy.. later on, clans formed themselves and convinced Lexx to orient the content towards faction like playstyle and screw the rest.. factions got strong, lonely wolves began to get slaughtered, ppl began to quit, and when factions had no more lonely wolves to pester on, factions quit as well.. funding ended and so did the developemnt..
i know it's not 1:1 the same with EtTu, but..
all in all don't let your purism ruin the game for the majority..
want OG Falout1 experience play Fo1 instead, or learn to deal with the settings you want, and don't talk Lexx into ruining experience of the newbs trying to play..
This was the same deal with FOnline 2238 first Lexx came around and started adding features to the game for everybody.. and everyone was happy.. later on, clans formed themselves and convinced Lexx to orient the content towards faction like playstyle and screw the rest.. factions got strong, lonely wolves began to get slaughtered, ppl began to quit, and when factions had no more lonely wolves to pester on, factions quit as well.. funding ended and so did the developemnt..
i know it's not 1:1 the same with EtTu, but..
all in all don't let your purism ruin the game for the majority..
But there is a party.txt...
agris
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Thanks @fanboy
@gustarballs1983 i don’t follow the relevance to my question / suggestion.
Edit: ah damn. Started a new character with Lockpicking tagged and got lockpicks in my inventory. I thought that fixt-as-default stuff had been removed.
@gustarballs1983 i don’t follow the relevance to my question / suggestion.
Edit: ah damn. Started a new character with Lockpicking tagged and got lockpicks in my inventory. I thought that fixt-as-default stuff had been removed.
nah.. Lexx toyed with it and tweaked it accordingly, now you'll always get something based on tag skill but not if your skill surpases certain threshold like it was in fixt.. in fixt when playing as cheaded character all 10 in special + easy dificulty, you could get all the bonus stuff.. Lexx repaired it and now you only get stuff if #1 you set the fixt bolean in the apropriate config #2 have the according skill tagged ( this was to just compement original game which rewarded certian skills with stuff like the outdoorsman got extra flask and two stims, small guns got extra 48 ammo unarmed gave brass knuckles and that was pretty much it.. now all skills when tagged give stuff, but only 3 skills can be tagged and there is no skill threshold like in fixt that after surpassing certain skill value yu'd get the item, now you only get the item if skill is tagged no matter the skill amount.
Getting a lockpick for tagging Steal/Lockpick has nothing to do with FIXT. It's been in FO1 since the very beginning, just the starting loadout was exploitable due to FO1 scripting limitation.
Gus is right, it was never the plan to do a 1:1 Fo1 port, as mentioned in the description. The party armor and leveling is simply a result of the Fo2 engine and I can't be arsed to write a lengthy manual on how to disable it (or enable it). People can't even manage to read the basics, this would just end up annoying the fuck out of me.
We balanced the leveling up around the Fo1 content, so it will never get more OP than necessary. Besides, there is a reason why party member limit and stronger super mutants is enabled by default--- the original game is way too easy already right out of the box.
It's party.txt in "\mods\fo1_base\data\" folder. It's a core Fo2 engine feature.
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Changelog
- Fixed: Brahmin poop would always only spawn on map elevation 0.
- Fixed: Dogmeat was barking error text when crippled.
- Fixed: It was possible to sell items to various NPCs before "giving" them via dialog, so they could be stolen back later.
- Fixed: The Mother Deathclaw in the Boneyard was printing male instead of female critical hit messages (old Fo1 vanilla bug).
- Fixed: Wrong AI package for initial Katja stage.
- Fixed: Aesthetic fixes to Hunting/Sniper Rifle sprites (from UPU).
- Fixed: Fallen Brahmin didn't recover on re-entering maps.
- Fixed: The text position of ShowLootWeight mod when ExpandInventory=1.
- Fixed: Using alcohol on Brahmin would cripple player's legs (FIXT bug).
- Fixed: If Sheriff Greene in the Hub gets knocked out/down in the Decker fight, he will stand up again once back in his office.
- Tweaked: All alcohol can be used on Brahmin now.
- Tweaked: Dead bodies in the LA Rippers map will be cleaned up faster (Deathclaws eat them, duh).
- Tweaked: Deathclaw Spawn critters in caravan job encounters will look like small Deathclaws if Fo2 critters are enabled in the fo1_settings.ini file.
- Tweaked: If Fo2 critters are enabled, new Deathclaws in the LA Rippers map will initially be Deathclaw Spawns. After a day, they turn into full grown Deathclaws.
- Tweaked: Players can no longer open out-of-bounds merchant boxes.
- Tweaked: Reverted prices of Stimpak and Super Stimpak from Fo2 to the original Fo1 values.
You can find the latest release here.
Not much to say this time, just wanted to finally get those fixes out in a public release. Some bugfixes (there's always something to fix), and some smaller tweaks. As always it's better to start a new game, especially for the Katja-fix. But it shouldn't be necessary this time.
I've noticed there was a funny exploit... you could keep quest items if you'd barter them to NPCs first, then click the dialog option where you give the item, and then steal it back. This way it was possible to duplicate a power armor at Miles, etc. This probably works in vanilla Fo1 as well, but I never tried it. Well, now it doesn't work anymore.
agris
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
I want to revisit this.
And I got these replies.
Frankly, I didn't believe this. I've been playing Fallout 1 since the *demo* was released and didn't know about the extra stims/first-aid kits/lockpick set because I always played characters with skills below the threshold to trigger them, so I was only familiar with the brass knuckles and extra 10mm JHP.
I just went back to my Fallout 1 CD patched to 1.2.1 RC-eng and replicated all the behavior you both described. Thanks for pointing this out!
I hope you reconsider this Lexx. Et tu is rapidly becoming the go-to way for new players to experience the original (and best!) version of Fallout.
I'm not advocating for a bit-for-bit replication of Fallout 1 by et tu, but I do think you should (a) support original game mechanics such as lack of party leveling and armor and (2) enable that by default.
Fallout 1's original treatment of companions reinforced the brutality of the world. They died, and to preserve them across difficult fights you either save scummed or resorted to dumb tricks like locking dogmeat inside a room during a hard fight. The relative ease by which companions met their demise was somewhat balanced by the player's ability to recruit them, unencumbered by CHA checks.
Fallout 1 isn't a hard game, and having the default et tu configuration enabling players to gear-up and level-up companions, even with the CHA limit in place, skews the balance and also goes against the disposable/cruel world tone set by the original.
I don't think leveling and gearing companions should be removed or hidden or anything like that, but I do hope you reconsider making the Fallout 1 behavior easier for the average user to implement, and then making that the default shipped config of et tu.
Cheers, thanks for the new release!
And I got these replies.
Frankly, I didn't believe this. I've been playing Fallout 1 since the *demo* was released and didn't know about the extra stims/first-aid kits/lockpick set because I always played characters with skills below the threshold to trigger them, so I was only familiar with the brass knuckles and extra 10mm JHP.
I just went back to my Fallout 1 CD patched to 1.2.1 RC-eng and replicated all the behavior you both described. Thanks for pointing this out!
I hope you reconsider this Lexx. Et tu is rapidly becoming the go-to way for new players to experience the original (and best!) version of Fallout.
I'm not advocating for a bit-for-bit replication of Fallout 1 by et tu, but I do think you should (a) support original game mechanics such as lack of party leveling and armor and (2) enable that by default.
Fallout 1's original treatment of companions reinforced the brutality of the world. They died, and to preserve them across difficult fights you either save scummed or resorted to dumb tricks like locking dogmeat inside a room during a hard fight. The relative ease by which companions met their demise was somewhat balanced by the player's ability to recruit them, unencumbered by CHA checks.
Fallout 1 isn't a hard game, and having the default et tu configuration enabling players to gear-up and level-up companions, even with the CHA limit in place, skews the balance and also goes against the disposable/cruel world tone set by the original.
I don't think leveling and gearing companions should be removed or hidden or anything like that, but I do hope you reconsider making the Fallout 1 behavior easier for the average user to implement, and then making that the default shipped config of et tu.
Cheers, thanks for the new release!
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Disabling the party leveling is ez. You can just override the party file. Sfall seems to support enable/disable scripting for it, so I have added a new config option for that now as well.
Disabling the party armor change is ez too -- delete the file gl_partyarmor.int in the "mods\fo1_base\scripts\" folder... or change the values in the party_armor.ini config, or delete that file, I dunno. Again, I don't want to add a toggle option here into config, because that means we'd have to modify the mod script and then whenever it gets updated, we'll have to update it as well. Just annoying to do.
The way ettu currently ships is how I want to play my Fo1. I really don't care about what other players want or think, tbh. At the end of the day I started this because *I* wanted to play Fo1 like this, and not as a service to other people.
The difference to the original is not that big. I'm too much a purist (hate that word) to have it any other way. Everyone who still complains about it is just ... whatever. They probably also don't know that Fixt changes a crapton of stuff as well, but they don't bother because they don't know and never notice.
Disabling the party armor change is ez too -- delete the file gl_partyarmor.int in the "mods\fo1_base\scripts\" folder... or change the values in the party_armor.ini config, or delete that file, I dunno. Again, I don't want to add a toggle option here into config, because that means we'd have to modify the mod script and then whenever it gets updated, we'll have to update it as well. Just annoying to do.
The way ettu currently ships is how I want to play my Fo1. I really don't care about what other players want or think, tbh. At the end of the day I started this because *I* wanted to play Fo1 like this, and not as a service to other people.
The difference to the original is not that big. I'm too much a purist (hate that word) to have it any other way. Everyone who still complains about it is just ... whatever. They probably also don't know that Fixt changes a crapton of stuff as well, but they don't bother because they don't know and never notice.
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