Fallout: New Vegas previews

Brother None said:
The mainstream media is setting up to rip this game to shreds, possibly for flaws that were already present in Fallout 3. Disappointing, but unsurprising.
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You have that feeling too? It's not something we haven't seen before with Obsidian...

@Prosper, that does not compute. Nice though.
 
Briosafreak said:
You have that feeling too? It's not something we haven't seen before with Obsidian...
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I kind of feared it beforehand because yeah, it's typical Obsidian. Partially their own fault too with the state they release games in, but still...

The coverage hasn't been negative but it's lacked the ecstatic slobbering tones of Fallout 3 previews. So I dunno, can get either way, but they're certainly prepared to rip it if...er...."needed".
 
Brother None said:
The mainstream media is setting up to rip this game to shreds, possibly for flaws that were already present in Fallout 3. Disappointing, but unsurprising.
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Honestly, what can a person say about that.

Those damn flaws were already quite apparently (bugs, bad thought out AI, and personally storyline and quests) but every thing was A Okay because Bethesda brought back Fallout?

But now in the spin off Obsidian is making the flaws they could not eliminate are game breaking and the graphics are old and bad?

I honestly hate this gamer generation.
 
Bugs don't make a game bad unless they are game-breaking, but one little bug and the mainstream gaming media shit themselves in anger.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
I honestly hate this gamer generation.
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While i'd like to disagree considering i'm technically a member of this gamer generation, i sadly must agree.

Most of the PC gamers i know my age are fairly good, but it's all i have not to start knifing some of the casual/console players at get togethers. I got into gaming keenly as it reaches it's death throes =(
 
Aphyosis said:
While i'd like to disagree considering i'm technically a member of this gamer generation, i sadly must agree.
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Out of curiosity, what age does this make you?
 
PaladinHeart said:
But anyways, back on topic... xD Yeah I'm pretty sure the author meant "cut down" as in "killed them" rather than "freed them". In Fallout 3 there was never any way to "cut the ropes" from captives. You might untie them, but... it would seem out of place to hear that someone "cut the ropes" from the captives, rather than simply saying "freed them" or "untied their ropes".
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"One interesting quibble I had arose from my attempt to free Nelson from the clutches of the Legion. After cleansing the town, I cut down some NCR captives they’d been keeping around. Due to this, they were hostile to me. So even though I’d freed them from their bonds, they immediately attempted to bash my face in. "

Mh... :?
 
Aphyosis is sort of right, what I should have written was "I hate the mentality of the majority of current gamers." because that is how I really feel.
 
Stanislao Moulinsky said:
"One interesting quibble I had arose from my attempt to free Nelson from the clutches of the Legion. After cleansing the town, I cut down some NCR captives they’d been keeping around. Due to this, they were hostile to me. So even though I’d freed them from their bonds, they immediately attempted to bash my face in. "
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The statement seems fine to me until he says "Due to this," as he makes it sound as though freeing the captives would naturally make them hostile to him. I don't want to presume too much on my reading comprehension, but it just seems poorly worded.

Edit: Upon re-reading the quote, I think he means the settlement itself becomes hostile since you freed the town's prisoners which would most likely be considered a hostile act.
 
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BN said:
The mainstream media is setting up to rip this game to shreds, possibly for flaws that were already present in Fallout 3. Disappointing, but unsurprising.
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Briosa said:
You have that feeling too? It's not something we haven't seen before with Obsidian...
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BN said:
I kind of feared it beforehand because yeah, it's typical Obsidian. Partially their own fault too with the state they release games in, but still...

The coverage hasn't been negative but it's lacked the ecstatic slobbering tones of Fallout 3 previews. So I dunno, can get either way, but they're certainly prepared to rip it if...er...."needed".
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How B-Soft and the game review media / commercial scribblers drummed up the hype for Oblivion and FO3 are still in clear memory.

Self congratulatory spin and predetermined triumphal marketing.

Even a WRITING AWARD for plot holes!

Smug complacency does not start to describe the truth challenged image of this Machiavellian Media, as viewed from this side line.

Funny, if the real focus on FONV will not be the game reviews, but how this mainstream 'hive mind' ambushes Obsidian, ... once again.

These are reputedly "COMMERCIAL WRITERS", positive spin boosters of game industry products. Where is the love?

Out the window, with the baby, the bath water, and the truth?

What agenda lurks behind the 'warm and fuzzy' facade of this genius species of commercial writers?

Are the POLITICS of advertising games that small minded and mean spirited, or are there grander designs?

Is there a macro message numbing the public into consuming proscribed Nex Gen products that slavishly conform to a conspiratorial party line?

Grooming a single aesthetic, chaining choice to a single icon of consent. The 'fix' will be forever ... on.


FONV vs the mainstream game reviewers. Simple truth or a Roman Circus promising blood on the sand.


... and I'll be watching, and I know YOU will be too ...

Ready to chant?

" "The Whole World Is Watching, ... The Whole World Is Watching, ... " "






4too
 
You are right I will be watching.. and not without a depressed grin on my face just like I did when F3 showed it's ugly head. Perhaps this time even more depressed since some of the original devs are now working with that silly engine, 'new lore' and catering the same public that bought and enjoyed "Fallout"3.
 
OakTable said:
Bugs don't make a game bad unless they are game-breaking, but one little bug and the mainstream gaming media shit themselves in anger.
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They're pretty selective about that. Haven't seen any complaints about the atrocious bugs in Fallout 3 DLC from mainstream media.

Brother None said:
Fallout 3's mutants could still talk, the biggest difference between them and the dumber mutants in Fallout 1/2 were societal/behavioral pattern and physical appearance.

The dumb/smart divide was always there. The big divide in New Vegas, if I followed PR correctly (feel free to correct me, Ausir), is between the more intelligent outpourings of the Master's experiments and Fallout 2's Mariposa supermutants.
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Sadly, you're correct.
 
I kind of feared it beforehand because yeah, it's typical Obsidian. Partially their own fault too with the state they release games in, but still...

The coverage hasn't been negative but it's lacked the ecstatic slobbering tones of Fallout 3 previews. So I dunno, can get either way, but they're certainly prepared to rip it if...er...."needed".
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It's the same deal with the Shivering Isles for Oblivion. While the gaming press were falling over themselves to slobber Oblivion with undue praise and claiming it had no faults (level scaling? brilliant idea) when the Shivering Isles was released it was just 'more of the same' and received a 'more of the same' score. See Oblivion on metacritic - 94 to Shivering Isles - 86.
 
Technically you could just be the youngest because you are the first to have achieved any age of maturity while being you.

So I don't see why you are upset, when such privileges you have.
 
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4too said:
" "The Whole World Is Watching, ... The Whole World Is Watching, ... " "






BN said:
The mainstream media is setting up to rip this game to shreds, possibly for flaws that were already present in Fallout 3. Disappointing, but unsurprising.
Click to expand...

Briosa said:
You have that feeling too? It's not something we haven't seen before with Obsidian...
Click to expand...

BN said:
I kind of feared it beforehand because yeah, it's typical Obsidian. Partially their own fault too with the state they release games in, but still...

The coverage hasn't been negative but it's lacked the ecstatic slobbering tones of Fallout 3 previews. So I dunno, can get either way, but they're certainly prepared to rip it if...er...."needed".
Click to expand...


How B-Soft and the game review media / commercial scribblers drummed up the hype for Oblivion and FO3 are still in clear memory.

Self congratulatory spin and predetermined triumphal marketing.

Even a WRITING AWARD for plot holes!

Smug complacency does not start to describe the truth challenged image of this Machiavellian Media, as viewed from this side line.

Funny, if the real focus on FONV will not be the game reviews, but how this mainstream 'hive mind' ambushes Obsidian, ... once again.

These are reputedly "COMMERCIAL WRITERS", positive spin boosters of game industry products. Where is the love?

Out the window, with the baby, the bath water, and the truth?

What agenda lurks behind the 'warm and fuzzy' facade of this genius species of commercial writers?

Are the POLITICS of advertising games that small minded and mean spirited, or are there grander designs?

Is there a macro message numbing the public into consuming proscribed Nex Gen products that slavishly conform to a conspiratorial party line?

Grooming a single aesthetic, chaining choice to a single icon of consent. The 'fix' will be forever ... on.


FONV vs the mainstream game reviewers. Simple truth or a Roman Circus promising blood on the sand.


... and I'll be watching, and I know YOU will be too ...

Ready to chant?

" "The Whole World Is Watching, ... The Whole World Is Watching, ... " "






4too
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What's this, 4too without an avatar?!

Side note: why hasn't someone made a wasteland android app. i know someone who is able is reading this and want to see one
 
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