Gamers With Jobs: Best Game of the Coming Year Fallout 3

The Vault Dweller

The Vault Dweller

always looking for water.
As the clock soon strikes with the ringing of a new year the site Gamers With Jobs has blessed us with the decision that Fallout 3 will be the game of the coming year. Sure it's not released yet, but as far looking into the future of gaming for 2008 you can't blame them can you?

Gamers With Jobs

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
Hello all,

This is perhaps a stupid question, but as a lot of magazines and game sites I frequently visit seem to praise Fallout 3 as the Uber sequel and long awaited update of the series like pretty much everyone and their dog does despite that they have only seen a demo, is there still a point in listening or reading their opinion about this game or any other game for that matter?

I know the subject has been brought up in other topics, and its silly to suddenly stop with checking certain websites and magazines because of their praise for a particular title I don't agree with, but I wonder on this basis if their opinion on other software would be anymore valid, seeing as they already 'sell out' on one questionable title.
 
Elysium wrote:
So, my Game of the Coming Year?

Fallout 3.
Now you've done it! Expect the hordes of NMA forums to descend upon us with their fiery hate!









.... lol
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Hello all,

This is perhaps a stupid question, but as a lot of magazines and game sites I frequently visit seem to praise Fallout 3 as the Uber sequel and long awaited update of the series like pretty much everyone and their dog does despite that they have only seen a demo, is there still a point in listening or reading their opinion about this game or any other game for that matter?

I know the subject has been brought up in other topics, and its silly to suddenly stop with checking certain websites and magazines because of their praise for a particular title I don't agree with, but I wonder on this basis if their opinion on other software would be anymore valid, seeing as they already 'sell out' on one questionable title.
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Good question. Anyway, somebody, who is involved in the gaming press (can't remember who it was), said a few months ago that the game press is basically taken hostage by the companies. If they don't write a good review, they get black listed and don't get any info anymore. On the other hand, they do give some information. You just need to train yourself in ignoring the hype and read between the lines.
 
Priceless, like always it's okay to say "I bet it'll be awesome, Im gonna buy it on day one" but when you say things we already know you hear something like "Quit getting your panties in a wad and wait for the game." or "when did you play it?"
 
JR Jansen said:
Good question. Anyway, somebody, who is involved in the gaming press (can't remember who it was), said a few months ago that the game press is basically taken hostage by the companies. If they don't write a good review, they get black listed and don't get any info anymore. On the other hand, they do give some information. You just need to train yourself in ignoring the hype and read between the lines.
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only works because the mags allow themself to be taken hostage. :wink:
 
Tis The Season ...

Tis The Season ...


At face value this G with J piece, poised to kick off the New Year, is traditional directed content,
and it's real worth to me is the diversity of replies.
Witness a grooming of wish lists,
scent marked by a diverse computer game focused demographic.
Observe a Pavlovian pissing post and pounds of puppies,
salivating and ritually hosing,
as each precious poochie deemed appropriate.
This pillar of the inter-web allowing every logged in dog he/she/its day.

Well, it stimulated this SOB to quit scratching and sniffing to yap at speeding NMA radials.

After this most recent climax of commercial largess,
this very X-Mass,
this fleeting moment of flashing LED lit gratification,
Gamers With Jobs, a conduit for the ESCAPIST market-eering cabal, dangles the opportunity to salivate, on cue.

Cheese flavor and Pavlov's dog, flashing lure and flipping trout, candle flame and flapping moth, yes I did bite, nibble, but have yet to 'alight'.

For all 2007's marketing, I have yet to *buy* a X-Box, a PS3,
and purchased only two retail priced PC titles, the rest culled from the bargain bin.
Interesting. as more and more games and movies,
and games that emulate the extrusion and consumption of movies, clutter our planet.
I see myself WATCHING fewer games and playing fewer movies.

Tired of the tease.

Irritated by the lies.

My entertainment predilections have not chained my opportunities to video games. or movies, but be assured I MUST be missing something very important on TV!
So ... as the media be THE message ...
I follow the production AND marketing process of Bethesda's FO3 with genuine(tm) interest and anticipate grand showmanship in the greater media circus.


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@ The Dutch Ghost

Deception from lack of confidence, deception from emulating their peers, deception from savoring the sake of deception,

Lie once, will lie twice... will lie ...

We all expect lies from the barkers of the media 'press', and honor the few, true journalists we come to trust, [salute]
but we know from the marketing of Oblivion that the corporate mind of Bethesda-Zenimax (and the marketing media) would:

""Rather climb a tree, and tell a lie, then stand on the ground and tell the truth.""

Sad state of an industry when the marketing lies get more care and nurturing then the presumed product.

From the interviews of B's dev's I would never have supposed they were ashamed of their work,
and our need to self preservation in this era of media falsehood must be ever vigilant.
For all the candor, I must be prepared to field a flying lie.

This is the truth of the ADVERSARIAL relationship between the game consumer and the game producers / game media, the masters of deceit that shill empty boxes.

The presumption of guilt and our civilization's mania for original sin, ...

Axiom for the 21st Century: Dogs bite; farts stink; truth dies: Bethesda-Zenimax and media 'fellow travelers' will lie.

We will read and watch, and some will buy, retail or mark down. Games are not trusted until trial. Peer review the only jury.


2008 and B's FO3:
May the drum beat not get tedious, and false witness a bitching bore,

the circus mirrors duplicitous fumes and Eve's apple a seedy core.

A play in play once was staged to snare a great pretender.

The play in game will dangle truth for player's spin to render.


Start with canine imagery and then this wag ends in doggerel ... step back, time to leave my mark ...



May we live in interesting times this 2008 ...



4too
 
I still like Gamers with Jobs, regardless of their insistence on doing odd things every now and again.

This one's pretty odd, though. Not that Fallout 3 is his most anticipated game of 2008, that's fine, but that he feels this is something everyone should know for some reason.

Gaming journalism...it's an odd thing...

Besides, Fallout 3 will either run away with all GotY awards or be burned by the critics. It's pretty much a coin flip decision, though, you call it, they'll either hate it or love it, the game has nothing to do with that. The hype does, though.
 
Brother None said:
Besides, Fallout 3 will either run away with all GotY awards or be burned by the critics. It's pretty much a coin flip decision, though, you call it, they'll either hate it or love it, the game has nothing to do with that. The hype does, though.
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So what, It's NMA's purpose to make sure the critics hate it by giving bad hype and Bethesda's purpose to make sure they love it by giving good hype?
 
Unfortunately the critics don't hate it so far, and most of the gaming tabloids are smearing it in the paint of a landslide success when all it is showing to be is another hack job shooter with rpg slapped on it so that the console crowd at large that plays it has some minor mental challenges without breaking their shootah skillz by making the game mentally stimulating.

I don't ask for a Fallout or Fallout 2 clone, what I ask for is something that at LEAST tries to follow the canon, and doesn't look like the team spat loogies on a piece of paper and called it a super mutant.

Fallout (for the most part) followed real life concepts of science and did not put in xplodin' carz because it was cool, and Fallout is not about how many holes you can plug someone with twitch reflexes, I'm sorry but when I play an RPG I don't want to have to rely on twitch to do the job, I want to exercise that muscle that games haven't been working lately, it's called my brain.

I can twitch just fine, and I don't expect Fallout 3 to be any sort of challenge, and to be perfectly honest, aside from the stupidity of the npcs in Oblivious, there really weren't many memorable NPCs, but in Fallout, there are dozens.

2008, the year character development dies a little more...
 
@ Yellow

There's an old saying: if something is wrong, fix it.

Been there, done that. Will we do it again? That's your question. Who's answering?
 
Yellow said:
It's NMA's purpose to make sure the critics hate it by giving bad hype?
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No, and I find the concept of "anti-hype" retarded. We're not trying to convince people who would like the game on its own merits not to like it, we're trying to change the circumstances to something unlike Oblivion's release, where the game was never accurately portrayed in the media for what it was. It's not about anti-hype, it's about being factual, I'll leave the rest up to Pete.
 
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