Guns or energy weapons?

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As topic, really. I've always chosen energy weapons in FO1 and 2 but kind of have the urge to be a gunslinger. I just kind of got bored by blandness of regular weapons in the regular games - and they always seemed to be outclassed by energy weapons, late in the game. Anyone know if it's different in NV?
 
Mr. Teatime said:
As topic, really. I've always chosen energy weapons in FO1 and 2 but kind of have the urge to be a gunslinger. I just kind of got bored by blandness of regular weapons in the regular games - and they always seemed to be outclassed by energy weapons, late in the game. Anyone know if it's different in NV?
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my impression is that energy weapons do more damage in the late game but they don't have AP ammo and can't be silenced

you can make up for the lack of AP with overcharge/max charge but you're stuck with no silencers
 
oihrebwe said:
Mr. Teatime said:
As topic, really. I've always chosen energy weapons in FO1 and 2 but kind of have the urge to be a gunslinger. I just kind of got bored by blandness of regular weapons in the regular games - and they always seemed to be outclassed by energy weapons, late in the game. Anyone know if it's different in NV?
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my impression is that energy weapons do more damage in the late game but they don't have AP ammo and can't be silenced

you can make up for the lack of AP with overcharge/max charge but you're stuck with no silencers
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Overcharged cells are the same as armor penetration ammo IIRC (-enemy DT, +10% damage, -CND).

Max charge on the other hand is the same as hollow point IIRC, where it does the maximum +damage but also increases enemy DT.

Regarding mods, I can't say, but energy weapons will most likely have different mods from conventional arms.

I see it more as an issue of flavor as opposed to power. 10mm pistols do a ton more damage in this game than they did in FO3, and 10mm SMGs are of the most powerful weapons early game. Pick what you like and make it work via associated perks.
 
I've settled on energy weapons. They're more 'me'. Now - lockpick or science... hm. Anyone know how necessary these skills are in NV? I remember lockpick was pretty essential in FO3, as there were a ton of locked doors (people's houses) that could lead to some interesting stuff.
 
Mr. Teatime said:
I've settled on energy weapons. They're more 'me'. Now - lockpick or science... hm. Anyone know how necessary these skills are in NV? I remember lockpick was pretty essential in FO3, as there were a ton of locked doors (people's houses) that could lead to some interesting stuff.
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I've allready seen like 6-7 doors and also some safes which I can't get open. And I'm just 4 hours in, so I say lockpick.
 
Ya. Gone for Energy Weapons, Speech and Lockpick tagged. Science would have been more in keeping with the energy weapons theme but ... yeah. Everyone needs to be practical in the wasteland :P
 
Lockpick is needed everywhere. I've also seen quite some uses for repair and science but not as many. Lockpick just isn't as fun as repair or science, since they usually involve robots and interesting dialogue options.
 
Mr. Teatime said:
Ya. Gone for Energy Weapons, Speech and Lockpick tagged. Science would have been more in keeping with the energy weapons theme but ... yeah. Everyone needs to be practical in the wasteland :P
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Repair and Science also help you more efficiently create/convert ammo for Guns and Energy Weapons, respectively, at Reloading Benches and Workbenches, so these skills have more direct involvement with combat.
 
Mapex said:
Overcharged cells are the same as armor penetration ammo IIRC (-enemy DT, +10% damage, -CND).

Max charge on the other hand is the same as hollow point IIRC, where it does the maximum +damage but also increases enemy DT.

Regarding mods, I can't say, but energy weapons will most likely have different mods from conventional arms.

I see it more as an issue of flavor as opposed to power. 10mm pistols do a ton more damage in this game than they did in FO3, and 10mm SMGs are of the most powerful weapons early game. Pick what you like and make it work via associated perks.
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GECK says
overcharge = +25% dam +50% wear
max charge = +75% dam +150% wear
 
Yeah, overcharge and max charge are NOT the same as AP and hollow point.

Also tagging skills is no that important now. You just get +15 to skill, and that's all. They went with Morrowind/Oblivion system this time. It's just a matter of one level.
 
I went with guns, I despise energy weapons in general. Despite its heavy grounding in the Fallout series I really hate sci-fi/spacey pop culture and do my best to overlook it when I can.

The good news being Energy weapons is actually a viable option the entire game this time around where as in F3 it was more endgame. I found an energy pistol before I found a regular gun in the doctors house.
 
Early game viable laser guns? Count me in, I will buy this game on Steam NOW!

Are the lasers still awesome Warhammer 40k beam style? Or did they change to lame Star Wars pew-pew style?

Do the lasers actually kick ass? Power Armor's 19/90% in Fallout 1&2 was not fun for laser lovers like me...
 
Eh, lazers actually kick ass, and standard armor protection doesn't work against them. At first I was afraid I am going to be hunting for a few cells though, but the doubts went away when I saw random raiders with lazer pistols and TONS of ammo.

By the way, now NPC have real amount of ammo. In FO3 I was wondering how do they shoot me for 5 min when they have only 5 bullets in their inventory.

P.S. You not only find plasma/lazer weapons early, you can quickly find a few traders to mod them straight away. Just shoot a lot of raiders for their guns to get your caps for those cool mods.
 
Am also looking at my SPECIAL character build. I've chosen 5 5 5 6 8 6 5, more for role-playing reasons than creating the best build (and I want to access as much dialogue as possible). Am considering removing a point from perception and putting into INT or CHA but I don't think that'll make much difference really. Any thoughts?
 
It depends what you want to do with the char. Playing solo and in hardcore you need a high strength for the carry weight really and/or carry weight perks.

I dropped my luck a few points to bump up other stats and took small frame for +1 AGI and even with the low luck I still get loads of crits.
 
My aim's always been really to have a high INT talkie character, who is a bit of a gunslinger (hence 6 AGI). But I've read INT 9 is a bit OTT, so may just stick with no stat below 5. I was considering bumping CHA to 7 but at the moment there's not much info about how CHA and INT contribute to dialogue options.
 
High INT is problly good in the long run due to the extra skillpoints. CHA improves your companions "Nerve" which I think is their damage and health etc.

No idea about dialogue options.
 
I hope Black Widow gives you more options this time, there were like 2 in vanilla FO3 which was pretty shit.
 
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