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How would you foresee a modern apocalypse?
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Sn1p3r187
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Yeah but I don't global nuclear war as being the downfall of humanity these days. Sure I see a regional conflict like India and Pakistan or Russia and China over border disputes and nuclear weapons being used. But I don't global as the end of it all. I'll just have to say the environment or a interplantery kill vehicle like an asteroid.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I think we will adapt, as we always do. Besides a nuke fight, or asteroid, or some super plague,we will go on.
Beaushizzle
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
I will foresee it with my eyes.
It is a shame that we can not sent all the people causing a lot of these problems to the future of their own making.
Seeing as they are so hell bent on creating it, wouldn't it also be fitting that they would actually live it?
Seeing as they are so hell bent on creating it, wouldn't it also be fitting that they would actually live it?
Beaushizzle
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Would they be able to come back? Also, I sense a paradox brewing. If they are sent forward, they can't be here to cause problems, so how could they see the problems they caused if the problems only happen while they are here?
It takes a lot of time to develop time-travel, so while we work hard at it - they ruin the world!
Cooperation!
Well I meant more the people who have already caused a lot of these problems, like you said in order to prevent paradoxes.
It could of course be done with time travel, or we put them on spaceships with engines capable of approaching the speed of light (a la the original Planet of the Apes) that do a flight of a few centuries around the solar system and then come back, or we develop real working cryonics and put all these people in hibernation capsules, making them wake up a few centuries from now.
I'd probably use that to go back in time with a stash of modern weapons and technology, set myself up as the new God King in some old civilization and create myself a complete new timeline.
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Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
Too many humans, not enough space or resources to go around. The details are trivial and pointless, the reasons, as always, purely human ones.
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DouglasAdams
First time out of the vault
realistic answer: China's slipping economy creates another economic slow down more and more countries start being taken over by rash unpredictable leaders one country push the line with another war gets started rises to total war button gets pressed 6 mins later both country's wiped off the earth, promoting other country's too take several options
option 1 learn from the nuclear ash that the same fate could fall upon them and Deescalate the conflict
option 2 the more likely scenario: like dominoes every country begins a nuclear strike.
after option 2 you would have about 6 mins tell life ends in the planet.
option 1 learn from the nuclear ash that the same fate could fall upon them and Deescalate the conflict
option 2 the more likely scenario: like dominoes every country begins a nuclear strike.
after option 2 you would have about 6 mins tell life ends in the planet.
Akratus
Bleep bloop.
In my opinion the only realistic options are an asteroid, global warming or a disease.
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
On what I think will cause the apocalypse personally? The Rapture. *shot on sight*
DouglasAdams
First time out of the vault
disease would thin are numbers but diseases and Bactria can not reach everyone nor can it have the lasting impact to destroy civilization also we would not lose written knowledge.
asteroid ok that could wipe civilization off the map however, unlike the dino, mammals arose from these conditions~being omnivorous~demanding less food to survive~being able to shelter underground, so i doubt an asteroid could wipe out civilization for very long.
global warming worst case scenario will not wipe out civilization, it may contribute to something else like ww3 but global warming itself would just suck,displacing,messing with the economy,triggering some minor conflicts early, but nothing world ending
Greentoast11
First time out of the vault
Millions of third world 'refugees' arriving in Europe and North America.
I do agree, to wipe out humanity completely, that's probably somewhat unlikely with most scenarios, like a disease, global warming etc. You would need a very drastic change.
However, we should not forget one thing here. It already happened in the past. As I have read somewhere, 99% of all species on this planet went extinct. And there have been some serious mass extinctions in the past, like the 5 big ones, with the worst somewhere at the end of the Permian period some 250 000 million years ago, the Permian-Triassic mass extinction. Some sources claim that between 90 and 95% of all species went extinct in that period. And the causes are not completely clear yet.
What is clear though is, It happend already and this means it can happen again. Even Humans need certain conditions to survive, if those dissapear or change, for what ever reason, we might die out.
However, we should not forget one thing here. It already happened in the past. As I have read somewhere, 99% of all species on this planet went extinct. And there have been some serious mass extinctions in the past, like the 5 big ones, with the worst somewhere at the end of the Permian period some 250 000 million years ago, the Permian-Triassic mass extinction. Some sources claim that between 90 and 95% of all species went extinct in that period. And the causes are not completely clear yet.
What is clear though is, It happend already and this means it can happen again. Even Humans need certain conditions to survive, if those dissapear or change, for what ever reason, we might die out.
Brivoo
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It depends on your vision of an apocalypse.
The end of civilization as we know it isn't far-fetched nor is it a novelty; a technological singularity would change it on such a fundamental level that it would become unrecognizable to us and a fuel shortage would regress our society or push us to use more inconvenient but renewable energy sources, creating a new financial and ultimately global climate. More disastrous events like climate change could redefine mankind's environment and food shortages would cause global populations to decrease dramatically, changing our modern culture on a visceral level but even so, the famine would have to be drastic to the point that nations would no longer be willing or able to co-operate as the downfall of even an influential country like the US wouldn't really spell out the end of civilization. Global thermonuclear conflict isn't as much of a threat as people think it is; if every major city in the world was hit by a nuke, billions of humans would still be left alive and although the resulting radiation would spread to the entire globe, it wouldn't result in a wasteland scenario as portrayed in Fallout or Mad Max.
An apocalypse where there are no survivors would have to be something major, something that would not only change our environment drastically but also our entire planet. Basically, nothing short of an asteroid or cosmic ray is going to kill us off for good; it would have to be something on par with the cretaceous-Paleocene extinction event, if not worse.
The end of civilization as we know it isn't far-fetched nor is it a novelty; a technological singularity would change it on such a fundamental level that it would become unrecognizable to us and a fuel shortage would regress our society or push us to use more inconvenient but renewable energy sources, creating a new financial and ultimately global climate. More disastrous events like climate change could redefine mankind's environment and food shortages would cause global populations to decrease dramatically, changing our modern culture on a visceral level but even so, the famine would have to be drastic to the point that nations would no longer be willing or able to co-operate as the downfall of even an influential country like the US wouldn't really spell out the end of civilization. Global thermonuclear conflict isn't as much of a threat as people think it is; if every major city in the world was hit by a nuke, billions of humans would still be left alive and although the resulting radiation would spread to the entire globe, it wouldn't result in a wasteland scenario as portrayed in Fallout or Mad Max.
An apocalypse where there are no survivors would have to be something major, something that would not only change our environment drastically but also our entire planet. Basically, nothing short of an asteroid or cosmic ray is going to kill us off for good; it would have to be something on par with the cretaceous-Paleocene extinction event, if not worse.
DouglasAdams
First time out of the vault
yes but if crocodiles survived that extinction than why couldn't we,we require less food,we can shelter are selves far better than any crocodile,and we are omnivorous.
Yeah, but consider the crocodile today and compare it with the prehistoric croc from 100 million years ago, there is some difference at least. I am just saying, humanity as we know it, could go extinct, given the right circumstances of course.
DouglasAdams
First time out of the vault
see your point that civilization and humanity would end as we know it
Brivoo
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There are several key differences between our hypothetical survival of such an event and the crocodile's. Modern crocs are said to have remained relatively unchanged for the past 150 million years, and the key word is 'relatively'. What this means is that, although they all looked basically the same, size and technique could vary wildly depending on their environment; crocodiles are the perfect killing machine not in the sense that they're perfect for every environment, but in the sense that they require very little adaptation to survive.
Case in point, the African crocodile descends from a small variant which used to lived in what is now Europe. The asteroid wiped out everything bigger than a cat and several other things, too; the sudden lack of predators and competitors gave the crocodile the abundance it needed to rise up the ranks and turn into an apex predator like its giant relatives in North America, much like mammals.
Human beings already occupy the highest spot in the food chain, and as such we're ourselves an indicator species; anything that happens below us affects us drastically. Even supposing enough of us survived in one city to not cause extinction by sheer lack of numbers we'd still have trouble finding enough food to sustain us.