IGN's Top 100 RPG list is Pretty Stupid

TorontRayne said:
Why don't we make a top 100 RPG list?
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I agree with TorontRayne. I have been reading nma-fallout for over 5 years now and you guys, along with a couple other websites like rpg-codex have the best eye for picking out the top seminal, groundbreaking RPGs.

The only thing I would caution when making a list would be to clearly narrow down the standard for what games are chosen and what games are not chosen. Will it only be a list of western RPGs? What will make one RPG appear higher on the list than another RPG, or even appear at all?

Maybe use things like influence on the wRPG genre, ability to master the different elements of an RPG (story, characters, etc.) and originality/novelty as your criteria.

Does anyone else agree with me? C'mon guys, I know you could make a better list! Let's see it! :)
 
We wouldn't even make it to 20 RPG before discussions get derailed into "which gaem is worse and why?!?!" :P

Besides, what would such a list achieve? What is the actual use for that?
 
Surf Solar said:
We wouldn't even make it to 20 RPG before discussions get derailed into "which gaem is worse and why?!?!" :P
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The popcorn is standing by, let the games begin.

I learned to ignore ign and the likes a long time ago.
 
IGN hardly surprises me anymore, it's pretty obvious that they are downright incompetent and commercialy subjective. I couldn't care less for that, if they wouldn't be such a big "force" that lends it's "wisdom" to millions of followers, and thus making the situation even more grim for the likes of us. The new generations of gamers are growing up with false views and trends, thus pushing the whole industry into a fucking cryostasis of creativity and freedom.

As someone else suggested, i think it would be interesting to see a similar list from nma, just done in a professional thought-over manner, if only to counterballance the stupidity coming from all these gaming sites.
 
Walpknut said:
Also, why si Pokemon BW in that list? even as a Pokefag, that game is garbage the worst of a series that isn't even that good.
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I wasn't even aware that the Pokemon games were classified as RPG's.

Also there's a lot of weird shit on this list. They've got Oblivion but no VtM:B? Fucking hell, Oblivion is notorious for being near unplayable without mods.

sea said:
The Mario RPG games are actually really fucking good, and I'd say any top 100 RPGs list deserves to have at least one on it (though maybe no more).
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I do remember really enjoying Superstar Saga, not sure if I've played any other Mario RPG's though.
 
Courier said:
Walpknut said:
Also, why si Pokemon BW in that list? even as a Pokefag, that game is garbage the worst of a series that isn't even that good.
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I wasn't even aware that the Pokemon games were classified as RPG's.
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Well there are lots of personalziation for each creature thanks to mechanics introduced since the GBA era, and has a stron competitive scene.

On the other hand well the games all have the same plot and are very linear. And Black and WHite introduced the worst mechanic ever, Reliance on a facebook knock off for kids to use legaly some of the new mechanics and some of the old ones too.
 
Surf Solar said:
We wouldn't even make it to 20 RPG before discussions get derailed into "which gaem is worse and why?!?!" :P

Besides, what would such a list achieve? What is the actual use for that?
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Of course there would be disagreements, such is the nature of said lists.

As another user suggested, the list would not have to be numbered. People would still disagree over which RPGs should appear on the list but this could be remedied by a simple vote.

What would a list achieve? It would achieve the insertion of a counter-opinion to IGN's stupid list into the community of online gamers. It would be a more concrete, poignant and tangible way of saying to IGN, "hey, we disagree with you".

Isn't that worth it? To me it is. RPGs are my favorite genre of video games and they fuck it up this badly.
 
Once again guys, we should do this. It doesn't have to be numbered, can actually be done right for once, and will say "fuck you" to crappy gaming sites like IGN. I'll make a thread for it if we have to. Walpknut, quit being such a "Gloomy Gus". :wink:

It's more of a statement than anything else.


WHO'S WITH ME!? :D


Tagaziel back me up here. You can make things happen.
 
Formerk said:
Me! Shining Force {"Plz" bitch-slap me.}
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Shining Force is badass. I liked part two better though. If we do this we might want to narrow down sequels to a minimum - instead of having 12 FF games, 6 Might and Magic titles, etc...maybe just list the top few?
 
Jesus fucking Christ, that little description for Fallout 3 and the fact that the top 10 is filled with crappy JRPGs makes me think that they got a bunch of kids from the anime club to stop watching Magical Girl Shining Fantasy Dildo Patrol and write this.
 
Magical Girl Shining Fantasy Dildo Patrol is a timeless classic, thank you very much

Shining Force is badass. I liked part two better though.
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:shock: Rlly? I never got around to playing it yet. Yay Genesis/Megadrive Classics packs
 
Brother None said:
IGN has presented a list of top 100 RPGs, as is usually the case for such a list, there's no way of doing it right, especially if you're going to include the likes of Pokemon and Paper Mario.

Wasteland isn't listed at all, while Fallout 3 at #10 outranks both Fallout (#34) and Fallout 2 (#28).
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Back when IGN used to not completely suck, they slotted Wasteland in at #24 in their Top 25 PC Games of All Time List.

But since then a bunch of XBox and PS3 fanboys(*) are now running the site so everything is definitely very console-focused. Which is too bad. I really did used to enjoy reading IGN. Oh well. :(

(*Full Disclosure: I am a total PS3 fanboy. :p)

Also, Pokemon is very much definitely an RPG. There are some incredibly deep RPG mechanics at work behind the scenes in that game.
 
Yay for NMA list of RPGs. RPG Codex will surely repost it so it won't go unnoticed. As for this list I haven't even clicked on the link, I don't want to improve their stats so they could bring more of this shit in the near future.
 
Courier said:
I wasn't even aware that the Pokemon games were classified as RPG's.
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I can certainly see a case for looking at Pokemon style games as RPGs.

Admittedly I've only played the Blue/Red/Yellow era game but the essence of that is wandering around a map with a group of "characters" under your command, each of whom level up from fighting in turn-based battles and can be (to some extent) customised. There are a number of "safe haven" locations where you rest and buy supplies and chests (or the like) that can be opened in the "wild" areas where each step runs the risk of an enemy spawning an attacking and collecting Pokemon themselves takes the place of loot gathering.

Simplistic, yes... but close enough to certain (generally "old-school") RPGs that I don't think it's completely out of place to include it there.
 
The meta-game in Pokemon is freaking crazy.

I'm a pretty in-depth Pokemon fan (in so much as I purposefully put together teams of Pokemon with varied moves to counter pretty much any strategy) and I still lose to some of these people who develop the most insane strategies and breed their Pokemon in ways that would make Charles Darwin roll in his grave.
 
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