Is Christianity wrong?

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I've been reading the Old Testament and it's been interesting. God in the OT is a being beyond time and space, He is supposed to be indivisible. I grew up in a christian area but I've only recently gotten into religion and I don't understand why Christianity co-opted so much pagan influence like the pope into it.
 
All religion, broadly speaking, originates from the same source. That's why they are so similiar in their nature.

Christianity, like all similiar belief systems, are an interesting pieces of fiction for their time(s) and make history interesting, but nothing really more.

I don't think there's a right or wrong in fiction (any fiction, religion included), but what is wrong is to condition ones offspring to one by force of parenthood.
 
They introduced pagan influences into it because that's Satan's whole schtick. I can't beat them so I'll turn them, little by little, into my own thing. The word for it is "apostasy." This is the believer in me answering. The secular nonbeliever answer is that Roman nobles didn't want to give up their positions of power to the masses that were converting so they melded this "new" religion with their own paganism. Thus, the Catholic Church was born.

Fast forward down the line and the separation happens and the Protestant Movement breaks from the Church but still keep lots of pagan things like Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter. All of these are pagan events that were retouched to appear "Christian."

Easter is the celebration of the goddess Ishtar, Nimrod's prostitute wife and Christmas has nothing to do with Christ because the actual person was born on September. It has to do with Nimrod, the ancient king who built the Tower of Babel. Now even if you do not believe that story, the man did exist. There are still ruins in the Middle East today with his name and stuff and the Epic of Gilgamesh is a fictional story based on him as a way to praise his achievements.

Proof: "Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, how did these nations serve their gods? Even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods." -Deuteronomy 12:30-31

To answer the question, yes, Christianity is wrong. Modern Christianity that is. It is apostate and filled with pagan worship and things the scriptures never intended. I left my Church three years ago because of it and my parents still give me lip for it but screw 'em. I made the right choice. They're the ignorant hypocrites.

I'll follow YHWH in the way the book intended, not how a pastor and his denomination wants me to.

I ain't no sheep, ya dig?
 
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One of the biggest issues I always had with Christianity (and most religions) is that it's all a big gamble. You're rolling the dice and betting that you are worshipping the right God, in the right fashion.

Ya but you're looking at religion through catholic Christianity. There are a bunch of religions where the patron God doesn't curse non believers into Hell like judaism/bahal(?)? or religions that act more like philosophies.
 
Ya but you're looking at religion through catholic Christianity. There are a bunch of religions where the patron God doesn't curse non believers into Hell like judaism/bahal(?)? or religions that act more like philosophies.

IIRC technically Catholicism doesn't automatically damn nonbelievers all the way to hell, per se. Virtuous nonbelievers get to stay in Limbo (or is it Purgatory? I forget).
 
Ya but you're looking at religion through catholic Christianity. There are a bunch of religions where the patron God doesn't curse non believers into Hell like judaism/bahal(?)? or religions that act more like philosophies.
It doesn't change the fact that people kill people over minor differences. It's like Christians being afraid of Meditating not knowing it is just like Praying on some level. OH NO IT CAME FROM DEMON RELIGIONS!

IIRC technically Catholicism doesn't automatically damn nonbelievers all the way to hell, per se. Virtuous nonbelievers get to stay in Limbo (or is it Purgatory? I forget).

It's the place you go when you are asleep.
 
I think it was Cormac McCarthy who wrote in Sunset Limited (paraphrased): Who would suffer through this life if not for the fear of the next.

I thought it was an apt description of religion.
 
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Religion is dangerous and it shouldn't be teached to children. I doubt most sane adults would actually believe in religion if they came in to contact with it after the age of 16 or 18 while they had some basic scientific education in their childhood, like physics, biology and some math. As long as someone is a rational person who's at least somewhat proficient with the scientific method knowing about our limited capabilities he has at least to acknoledge the fact that all religions, even buddhism are build on assumptions. That for it self isn't a big issue, as even scientific research is build on faith, faith in your hypothesis or the correct measurment, but what you have with science at the end of every process, the proof, is something that's completely missing in any religion or spiritual belief. And by teaching children fairy tales as truth, we're simply put indoctrinating a large number of people to believe that this is a reality without any real evidene to back it up, outside of 'I feel that it's the truth!'. By making someone believe that it's possible some guy who was wandering trough the desert 2000 years ago, walked over water or turned it in to wine, is no different from convincing people that dragons, cobolds, unicorns or magic to be true and real existing things.
 
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Religion is dangerous and it shouldn't be teached to children. I doubt most sane adults would actually believe in religion if they came in to contact with it after the age of 16 or 18 while they had some basic scientific education in their childhood, like physics, biology and some math. As long as someone is a rational person who's at least somewhat proficient with the scientific method knowing about our limited capabilities he has at least to acknoledge the fact that all religions, even buddhism are build on assumptions. That for it self isn't a big issue, as even scientific research is build on faith, faith in your hypothesis or the correct measurment, but what you have with science at the end of every process, the proof, is something that's completely missing in any religion or spiritual belief. And by teaching children fairy tales as truth, we're simply put indoctrinating a large number of people to believe that this is a reality without any real evidene to back it up, outside of 'I feel that it's the truth!'. By making someone believe that it's possible some guy who was wandering trough the desert 2000 years ago, walked over water or turned it in to wine, is no different from convincing people that dragons, cobolds, unicorns or magic to be true and real existing things.

And yet sadly there are people like Creationist "Doctor" Kent Hovind and Pat Robertson who will happily believe In utter nonsense like talking animal's and magical genie's in pure ignorace, then con millions of people into there own crazy version of what "God" wants be it denying science as a hole or being absolute bigots to gays/lesbians, gaining millions of dollars from there lies, and on top of all that try to force there religion down non religous people's throats.

Is personally why I became an atheist since I found faith to be the most dishonest position to have since they are only taking there word from a three thousand year old book written by primitve human's who had no idea how the world truly worked and through countless reworked versions and then proposed as to it all being the word of some eternal sky daddy. (If any of you are religous I'm totally fine with it just please don't try to make it fact or force others to believe it.)
 
By making someone believe that it's possible some guy who was wandering trough the desert 2000 years ago, walked over water or turned it in to wine, is no different from convincing people that dragons, cobolds, unicorns or magic to be true and real existing things.

Dragons do exist, sort of.

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Dragons do exist, sort of.

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That's not a dragon, that's @Per


And yet sadly there are people like Creationist "Doctor" Kent Hovind and Pat Robertson who will happily believe In utter nonsense like talking animal's and magical genie's in pure ignorace, then con millions of people into there own crazy version of what "God" wants be it denying science as a hole or being absolute bigots to gays/lesbians, gaining millions of dollars from there lies, and on top of all that try to force there religion down non religous people's throats.

Is personally why I became an atheist since I found faith to be the most dishonest position to have since they are only taking there word from a three thousand year old book written by primitve human's who had no idea how the world truly worked and through countless reworked versions and then proposed as to it all being the word of some eternal sky daddy. (If any of you are religous I'm totally fine with it just please don't try to make it fact or force others to believe it.)
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It's essentialy a death worshipping cult but some people have managed to carve up a relatively decent set of ethics and morals to follow, as long as they are celebrating the positinve kind it's not wrong, but then again, it's a death worshipping cult so there are also a lot of horrible people following it.
 
It's essentialy a death worshipping cult but some people have managed to carve up a relatively decent set of ethics and morals to follow, as long as they are celebrat
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It's essentialy a death worshipping cult but some people have managed to carve up a relatively decent set of ethics and morals to follow, as long as they are celebrating the positinve kind it's not wrong, but then again, it's a death worshipping cult so there are also a lot of horrible people following it.

The worst kind of people you talk about I think are those that just can't accept the truth until Is too late, I think most hardcore christans/creatonists are so far indoctrinated that if what they believe Is somehow wrong then they will be lost forever or fear of being hated by there friends/family so they deny it all possible until it gets in there thick fucking skull.

One of my old high school friends (Whom I will call Rob for his privacy) was once a hard core creatonist, he was nice in public but once you talked bout science he just go off on ya.

So it was couple years ago he told me how his mother was suffering from cancer, I asked if she was at hospital getting treated but apparently she denied going to the doctor along with her husband believing that "praying" will let "god" take care of her since they denied modern medicine, even he felt she was lying about it I could tell from his deminer but still tried to justify her action, three weeks passed and his mom died while she was asleep with him and his father at her bedside still praying, to make it short he broke from his religious mindset and his dad went off the deep end never to see him again, now he's told me that day truly changed him and let him to go on a successful path to being a doctor wanting to help those when he couldn't help his mom.
 
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