Man dies six days after assault

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"A man has died in hospital in Swansea after he was attacked in Pembroke last weekend.

Paul Roberts, who was 41, was assaulted near a Texaco petrol station on the town's green just after midnight last Sunday.

Two 17-year-old youths have been arrested in connection with the assault and released on bail.

A Home Office pathologist is to carry out a post-mortem examination to find the cause of Mr Roberts' death.

Dyfed-Powys Police are appealing for information about the incident to contact officers on 0845 330 2000."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/6952181.stm

Tragic story, what do people think about the growing rise in youth based assaults on middle aged people? I think the social gap between age groups is growing and this is causing more and more problems.
 
I think that the problem is that some people don't understand that they can't assault other people.
 
I think that it has something to do with too much leniency towards young criminals (or maybe lack of punishment that wouldn't involve them living with other criminals and learning from them how to be "better" criminals).
People should really understand that actions have consequences.
 
kinda unrelated but about violence anyway:

a man took the bus today. when he heard he was actually going in the wrong direction (he had taken the wrong bus) he flips out and becomes violent. busdriver calls the cops on his radio. cops show up, guy pulls a knife and starts raving. cops get tired of his nonsense and try to tackle em. the dude stabs himself right in the fucking chest.

what a dumbass...
 
SuAside said:
kinda unrelated but about violence anyway:

a man took the bus today. when he heard he was actually going in the wrong direction (he had taken the wrong bus) he flips out and becomes violent. busdriver calls the cops on his radio. cops show up, guy pulls a knife and starts raving. cops get tired of his nonsense and try to tackle em. the dude stabs himself right in the fucking chest.

what a dumbass...
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natural selection at its finest
 
yeah, the earth is overpopulated anyway, i know, but:
1) he's slowing down public transportation.
2) he's keeping our cops busy.

ugh... :(
 
SuAside said:
yeah, the earth is overpopulated anyway, i know, but:
1) he's slowing down public transportation.
2) he's keeping our cops busy.

ugh... :(
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I can't help but laugh.

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ITS VIDEO GAMES! They teach kids how to shoot guns and make bombs and kick old ladies!

On a serious note, I don't worry about 30 year olds driving up in pick-up trucks with bats and crowbars looking to beat some fags for the hell of it. Karma is coming back to bite us in the ass for something we didn't do... like teach responsiblity.
 
I couldn't help but notice that they're charged with beating a man [to death it would seem] and they're out on bail?!?

What sort of shit is this? Rich brats or a soft-handed juvenile system?
 
Is it getting more violent? Or is it just media that gets more attention? Sources? I still think people who practices violence are a problem though. Personally, I've never really liked them.
 
I think that there's actually less violence in everyday life - violence and extremisms are avoided - the problem is that it allows violent individuals to cause harm with impunity.

Less decent people who are able to use violence = less decent people that can protect themselves (and others) from violent people.

Also, less cruelty = more lenient "justice system" = less consequences for perpetrators.

Simply, the culture of peace, calmness and apathy is growing, but it's unable to defend itself from both criminals and political extremists.

Violence doesn't stop itself. Police usually can't stop an assault or murder from happening - it's a job of citizens - the problem is that in modern, non-violent world citizens fail in this role - when someone gets attacked on street, chances that someone will help them are very thin.
 
Yeah, well, it's going to happen when you train young boys that growing up to be manly is bad.

Oh well, guess America's just going to fall by the wayside and be conquered by some other country whose men haven't all grown vaginas.
 
Seeks said:
Yeah, well, it's going to happen when you train young boys that growing up to be manly is bad.

Oh well, guess America's just going to fall by the wayside and be conquered by some other country whose men haven't all grown vaginas.
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The idea that artificial conceptions of "manliness" are in some way connected to a person's ability to defend themselves is ludicrous. Contemporary ideas of manliness revolve around being boisterous, crude, disrespectful of women, and general foolishness. None of those things are going to help you if you're attacked, unless the perpetrator gets intimidated by harsh language. Not to say that femi-naziism (not to be confused with actual feminism) isn't a negative force, but most people can recognize that kind of fanatical, hypocritical nonsense for what it is.

The problem is really just that many people are simply not exposed to violence in their lives, outside of entertainment and media. Therefore they don't develop the skills or mindset required to deal with it. Which would be fine, except that occasionally violence does intrude into people's lives, and they lack the ability to respond to it outside of an instinctive flight or hide response. Really, basic self-defense or somesuch should be a required subject in schools.

Oh, and also don't forget: in today's legal climate, you're likely to get your ass sued off by the criminal if you end up injuring him. Hell, I know of a story where once a criminal injured himself breaking into someone's house to commit a burglary, sued the house owner, and won. In some cases you're probably better off letting yourself get hurt, least then the legal system will be on your side.
 
monsharen said:
Is it getting more violent? Or is it just media that gets more attention? Sources?
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more attention. at least here in Belgium. when someone got the shit kicked out of him 30 years ago it was probably only in local newspaper. today, it's all smeared out over several pages nationwide (especially in the low qual newspapers with BIG color photos). thus creating a climate of insecurity, which helps no one except extremist parties.

monsharen said:
I still think people who practices violence are a problem though. Personally, I've never really liked them.
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'practise violence'? what do you mean by that? people that use violence to further their goals or do you mean simply people who do martial arts etc?
 
10mmCurator said:
Sorrow said:
I think that the problem is that some people don't understand that they can't assault other people.
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I agree with that... Youth crimes been rising sharply over last 15 years.
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Ha... HAHAHAHAHAHA

And your basis for this is what?

Mukherjee (1997) says differently. Actually, you'll find that youth crime has been pretty much stagnant for the last 100 years and that in the last 10 years or so it's actually going down. Just because the media hype it up when it's a slow news day, doesn't mean youth crime has been going up as just about any decent criminologist will tell you.
 
Mukherjee (1997) says differently. Actually, you'll find that youth crime has been pretty much stagnant for the last 100 years and that in the last 10 years or so it's actually going down. Just because the media hype it up when it's a slow news day, doesn't mean youth crime has been going up as just about any decent criminologist will tell you
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And his basis on this is what?


it all depends on the city and area. I can tell you now that youth crime has risen in my city, I can go into detail why but I am affraid I will be banned for being a closet Nazi but I can tell you now I am not racist I just hate people who waste there lifes away while I have to pay for them to live.
 
Very sad. I suspect that many violent youths are quite apathetic, with a difficult background, such as a history of abuse, and little education. Some might blame the media and entertainment for supplying violence as an easy solution to problems. I think they are devastatingly stupid.

Many victims know how to handle themselves, but are shocked by the speed and extreme viciousness of attacks. People have been brutally murdered by very young people after having no warning. The baby boomers probably do have more fighting experience than young people in many countries.

The main problem is not the lack of assistance, but why young people are violent in the first place. Cruelty is innately evil and cruel punishment only increases a culture of violence, making it more acceptable in the mind of a youth.

SuAside said:
cops show up, guy pulls a knife and starts raving. cops get tired of his nonsense and try to tackle em. the dude stabs himself right in the fucking chest.

what a dumbass...
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Maybe lucky in some ways. The Aussie police have shot a couple of people dead in similar situations.

That reminds me. Can't remember if someone posted about it, but last month a nutty guy in Sydney took an APC and tried to destroy mobile phone towers, GTA style. One way of dealing with trigger happy police.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22073903-2,00.html
 
SuAside said:
monsharen said:
I still think people who practices violence are a problem though. Personally, I've never really liked them.
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'practise violence'? what do you mean by that? people that use violence to further their goals or do you mean simply people who do martial arts etc?
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Oh, sorry. I should clarify that. What I meant was "people who shoot first, ask later" (practise violence before word). Those who suddenly get the urge to street fight me. I have no problem with people who train martial arts or similar for fitness or fun. Been there, done that. I did thai kick boxing for some time. Still to this day, I've never been in a fight where I've had to use my fists, and I hope I get to live the rest of my life that way.

I can't stand those fuckturds who mysteriously thinks it's fun to fight random people.
 
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