I was working on code that reads protos, and my numbers for skills were not matching what is shown in the mapper proto editor. Initially I thought the skill levels stored in proto were the 0-300% amount, but I discovered that this is not true. The skill numbers in the proto are only the bonuses added to base skill level, where base skill is derived from SPECIAL as follows:
The protos stores some of the base/derived stats, like HP, AP, AC, etc, but they do not store the base skill stats. Both the mapper and the engine know these above calculations and use them to calculate the total skill level.
However, this is interesting, I used a fallout script to print out all 18 skill levels, and compared them to my c program output that reads the proto files directly and calculates the derived stats. It was an exact match. My code derives the base skills using above formulae and adds the skill level in proto to get to the total skill level. Since I am matching what engine script calls report, I am confident my code is right. The formulae also match what is listed in the game (they're shown on the yellow images with the vault boy). But the odd thing is, the mapper proto editor doesn't show the right values. The first 6 skills are a match, the remaining 12 don't match what a script says the level is, nor what my code derives.
This is an example of my code output showing the base/derived skill level and total skill. This is proto 4, arroyo villiager:
The mapper proto editor is showing these values:
It appears that it's the proto editor part of the mapper that is in error, because the engine shows the right values via script calls to get the critter stats. The bad news is that when you adjust skill level in the mapper, you're not getting the values that are shown. The good news is a better proto editor is in the works.
A proper critter proto editor and/or premade character generator must use these base stat formulae, otherwise the result doesn't really follow the SPECIAL system, and the engine will still calculate the base and add the bonus amount stored.
There are other base stat formulae for HP, AP, AC, etc that I am still verifying, will post those later.
Code:
Small Guns (AG x 4) +5
Big Guns (AG x 2)
Energy Weapons (AG x 2)
Unarmed (ST + AG) x2 +30
Melee (ST + AG) x2 +20
Throwing (AG x 4)
First Aid (PE + IN) x2
Doctor (PE + IN) +5
Sneak (AG x 3) +5
Lockpick (PE + AG) +10
Steal (AG x 3)
Traps (PE + AG) +10
Science (IN x 4)
Repair (IN x 3)
Speech (CH x 5)
Barter (CH x 4)
Gambling (LK x 5)
Outdoors (EN + IN) x2The protos stores some of the base/derived stats, like HP, AP, AC, etc, but they do not store the base skill stats. Both the mapper and the engine know these above calculations and use them to calculate the total skill level.
However, this is interesting, I used a fallout script to print out all 18 skill levels, and compared them to my c program output that reads the proto files directly and calculates the derived stats. It was an exact match. My code derives the base skills using above formulae and adds the skill level in proto to get to the total skill level. Since I am matching what engine script calls report, I am confident my code is right. The formulae also match what is listed in the game (they're shown on the yellow images with the vault boy). But the odd thing is, the mapper proto editor doesn't show the right values. The first 6 skills are a match, the remaining 12 don't match what a script says the level is, nor what my code derives.
This is an example of my code output showing the base/derived skill level and total skill. This is proto 4, arroyo villiager:
Code:
SPECIAL Base Bonus Total
ST Strength 7 0 7
PE Perception 5 0 5
EN Endurance 5 0 5
CH Charisma 5 0 5
IN Intelligence 5 0 5
AG Agility 7 0 7
LK Luck 5 0 5
SKILLS Base Bonus Total Derivation
Small Guns 33 0 33 (AG x 4) +5
Big Guns 14 0 14 (AG x 2)
Energy Weapons 14 0 14 (AG x 2)
Unarmed 58 12 70 (ST + AG) x2 +30
Melee 48 22 70 (ST + AG) x2 +20
Throwing 28 52 80 (AG x 4)
First Aid 20 10 30 (PE + IN) x2
Doctor 15 0 15 (PE + IN) +5
Sneak 26 24 50 (AG x 3) +5
Lockpick 22 0 22 (PE + AG) +10
Steal 21 9 30 (AG x 3)
Traps 22 0 22 (PE + AG) +10
Science 20 0 20 (IN x 4)
Repair 15 0 15 (IN x 3)
Speech 25 35 60 (CH x 5)
Barter 20 30 50 (CH x 4)
Gambling 25 0 25 (LK x 5)
Outdoors 20 50 70 (EN + IN) x2The mapper proto editor is showing these values:
Code:
Small Guns 33
Big Guns 14
Energy Weapons 14
Unarmed 70
Melee 70
Throwing 80
First Aid 20
Doctor 5
Sneak 40
Lockpick 12
Steal 20
Traps 12
Science 10
Repair 50
Speech 50
Barter 40
Gambling 15
Outdoors 60It appears that it's the proto editor part of the mapper that is in error, because the engine shows the right values via script calls to get the critter stats. The bad news is that when you adjust skill level in the mapper, you're not getting the values that are shown. The good news is a better proto editor is in the works.
A proper critter proto editor and/or premade character generator must use these base stat formulae, otherwise the result doesn't really follow the SPECIAL system, and the engine will still calculate the base and add the bonus amount stored.
There are other base stat formulae for HP, AP, AC, etc that I am still verifying, will post those later.
