No More Moore!

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Paladin Solo

So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Fuck off eh!

I personally dislike Mike Moore, so excuse the biasm...

But here are a few words from a "critic"

Fuck off Moore. Your movie would've been good if it presented truth, (Bowling For Columbine) and I think folks have learned their lesson from that movie to not allow you to make another one with their name. None of us want our named tarnished after all you know? Anyhow...you want the movie so bad, make it yourself.
 
I personally don't like Moore, either, for pretty much the same reason. He basically lies in his "documentaries." He's just a biased asshole.
 
Everyone is biased. Everyone lies.

Bowling for Columbine, while somewhat inaccurate, statistically, still presents a realistic portrayal of American society and is still a well made film.

He's a bit of a grandstander, but all around he's got the right idea.
 
Malkavian said:
Bowling for Columbine, while somewhat inaccurate, statistically
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There are very few statistics in the film. Most of the "inaccuracy" comes from dishonest portrayals, not just factually incorrect statements.
 
Paladin Solo said:
Fuck off eh!

I personally dislike Mike Moore, so excuse the biasm...

But here are a few words from a "critic"

Fuck off Moore. Your movie would've been good if it presented truth, (Bowling For Columbine) and I think folks have learned their lesson from that movie to not allow you to make another one with their name. None of us want our named tarnished after all you know? Anyhow...you want the movie so bad, make it yourself.
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Yet again, you criticize a movie you haven't even seen. You really have no personality of your own, do you PS? God forbid you should present an argument based on something that you personally witnessed or experienced, not whored off of the bastion of balance known as Fox News.

And on the off chance that you purport to have seen Bowling for Columbine, you'll have to excuse me if I call you a liar, since your track record so far has been less than 100% honest.

Bring it.
 
Yet again, you criticize a movie you haven't even seen. You really have no personality of your own, do you PS? God forbid you should present an argument based on something that you personally witnessed or experienced, not whored off of the bastion of balance known as Fox News.
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Yeah, who knows. Maybe in this one he does'nt get all of his facts wrong, and actually admits that making a movie about how all people with money deserve to be executed.

Let's face it.....Moore is worse then a demegouge, he's a broken record of Marx's Greatest Hits. I have'nt seen the movie, but I've seen enough of his stuff to know that it's totally innacuratte, inappropriate and totally moronic.


This guy deserves everything he gets. Hell, he'll probably love it. He feeds off of people making fun of him, or booing him, or helping him look like an even larger asshole then his already canyon sized one.
 
If you thought Bowling for Columbine was pure bullshit, you should see some of the speeches that he made on that DVD as well. As for the film, it is one of the biggest hodge podges of fallacies and poorly concealed agendas ever to grace cinematic film. I can't believe the film actually won awards, and only proves to me that all these film awards are worth jack-fucking-squat when it comes to true quality, but are purely political tools, both in and outside the industry, instead.

What I found most disagreeable about the film was his supposed stated purpose, which was to make people think about gun violence and its sources, and not to give his personal views, where it stems from and a possible solution. Not only did he present his very biased views on gun control (and I am against handguns), but he used that same pretense to attack several totally unrelated topics as well. Not only that, but I find his excuse for not coming up with a solution just plain sloppy and representative of his cognitive abilities. It's fucking easy to point out problems; any half-brained asshole on the street can do that, it's coming up with a solution that gives you credibilty. Hell, after watching the film, I actually began rooting for the pro-gun nuts...

I truly despise Moore, and any other dickless piece of shit that uses blatant sophistry to get their agenda's across. I'm glad that Disney decided not to release his film. I'm sure they recognized his last film for what it truly was; a poorly made and highly biased docudrama with little scholarly merit except for a few factoids on gun deaths (never mind that many of these facts were set to a backdrop of biased imagery); and Disney didn't want anything to do with his next round of shoddy and embarrassing journalism.

ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
This guy deserves everything he gets. Hell, he'll probably love it. He feeds off of people making fun of him, or booing him, or helping him look like an even larger asshole then his already canyon sized one.
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Yeah, I can't wait to hear his latest rant on how Disney was afraid of the mighty Bush empire, and were trying to hide all the "facts" so as not to piss his administration off, and how we're quickly spiraling into a fascist, racist regime bent on conquering the world and supressing all our first amendment rights.
 
Murdoch, for the last time. Stop assuming.

I have seen it, but haven't read any of his books. How many times do I have to tell you? Saw it, hated it, burnt it, never want to see another, or read one, of his pieces of shit he calls masterpieces. So lay off!
 
In the words of Malkavian "... and I'll assume if I want".

Assumptions are bad though. Makes people look stupid and insults others.
 
Oh, you should try reading his books.

I 'dipped' into both Stupid White Men and Dude Where's My Country before seeing Bowling For Columbine. I say 'dipped' because it takes an effort of will to sit through an entire chapter.

Believe me, the film makes him seem calm, rational and self-effacing by comparison. Mind you, that South Park style cartoon half way through is quite funny.
 
Moore is okay. He's not the man or the dude, but he's okay. So he's a liar? Writing=lying. Always. I forgive. :P
 
Can't this SOB be charged with slander and severe distortion of the truth (lying his ass off)? After reading what he did with that "documentary" made me violently ill. And to think that thing got an award as a documentary.... SF sure, documentary NEVER!
 
When I saw the title to this topic, my first thought was "Oh no! Something's happened to Alan Moore!"

:P

Now, having watch Bowling for Collembine and read Stupid White Men I do agree when people say he is a bit of a daemonoge, but on the other hand, Canada and the U.S.A. have about the same number of guns per people in the country, with Canada having something like a dozen gun related killings, and the U.S. having thousands, you have to admit, there must be something up with America which keeps people shooting each other.
 
There's a lot wrong with America that contributes to the reckless treatment of firearms. The only recurring theme is a lack of responsibility on the user.

Which is difficult to inure in certain sections of the populace.
 
King of Creation said:
Writing can't = lying when you're trying to make a serious documentary.
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One might seriously doubt your statement, but I'm not going to open up my postmodern briefcase and tease you with Foucault and Barthes and Derrida and Riquoer and what'd-ye-call'em.

Is Bowling for Columbine labelled as a documentary or as a movie? Or is it perhaps that hybrid form called faction? Eh, ever thought about that? And who will tell? Is it labelled as 'reality tv' perhaps? I didn't think so, eh? So basically it's a representation of something that occured, an event, with characters and a certain flow (the dynamics of a story)... I call such a thing fiction. Always. Unless it's faction. Non-fiction is a very dangerous word to use, methinks. I don't even use that term to refer to autobiographies or accounts of things long forgotten. Fiction. All of it. Trust me.

I see no wrong in a filmmaker who changes some facts in order to get the right "feeling". All of them do. You think Schindler's List is an accurate portrayal of the holocaust? I seriously doubt it. But the filmmaker does get the right message accross, and that's what's important, methinks.

Is Bowling For Columbine such a big lie or does it only take a piss with some facts? To emphasize (a classic literary device)? To get the message accross? Or what?
 
The problem with Bowling, Blade, is that it ís labelled a documentary. And a documentary, even if it is biased, should not grossly misrepresent facts, like Bowling does.

Even though the point of the movie is pretty good, the way it is conveyed is horrible, and ruins the point.
 
the point of the movie
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There was a point? What was it? The movie I saw just rambeled on without any kind of coherent message, and pointed in twenty directions at the same time. He's like Victor Hugo without the writing ability.
 
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