Problems with the Video Game Industry

I guess one of my issues is how samey everything is.

The new Mass Effect trailer has come out, and give the game credit, it doesn't look bad. But the main hook could lead to so many more possibilities, we have a group of different species all trying to live together and explore a new galaxy.
That's original and very interesting. Imagine the conflicts thaf could arise in that.
But it looks like they are going with a huge threat which the series has already done.
We just took on a huge threat, I want to explore the politics of creating your own civilisation in a different World. But no, there needs to be a threat cause that's what all the cool kids want.
 
Millim said:
I guess one of my issues is how samey everything is.

The new Mass Effect trailer has come out, and give the game credit, it doesn't look bad. But the main hook could lead to so many more possibilities, we have a group of different species all trying to live together and explore a new galaxy.
That's original and very interesting. Imagine the conflicts thaf could arise in that.
But it looks like they are going with a huge threat which the series has already done.
We just took on a huge threat, I want to explore the politics of creating your own civilisation in a different World. But no, there needs to be a threat cause that's what all the cool kids want.
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See I don't know why companies do this. Bethesda's games, whilst bad, are known for being able to do whatever you want- the main story is thrown in as an obligatory ending trigger. They could follow this formula but have good writers to create a world with depth.

Why don't they just make an open world game with interesting things to discover, memorable side quests and characters- so instead of an ending, you'll have a world completely different to the one you started when every sub-plot is completed. It makes more sense to me than a cliche, overdone "ancient evil" trope.

If the ancient evils in ME:A are a race of robots shaped like a sea creature again I'm videoing my suicide.
 
Arnust said:
Borderlands 3 will be great albeit not brilliant
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Nope, the last two games were written by that cuck Anthony Burch and he jammed some of his SJW beliefs into the game because that's what people want in games, I heard the Presequal went all out. You also had the stupid cartoony villain that wouldn't shut up and tell you the "eeeevil" things he did not show you. Then you have the repetitive gameplay which consisted of constantly looking to replace your current shitty gun with a slightly better shitty gun that shoots out goo or whatever because how obsolete they would become. Bazillion guns that all sucked and all usually did the same thing, point to enemy and click until it dies. The characters like Tiny Tina were EXTREMELY grating on my ears and there was a plentiful amount of childish jokes like bonerfarts. Don't forget all of the DLC they kept shitting out. I think this series is either dying or dead to be honest, it's okay though as nothing of value was lost.

Sorry my rant is now over.
 
Walpknut said:
Can we ever have a discussion on anything online without people saying "SJW" at some point? It has gotten so tiring.
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"But h0w else am I going to expess h0w ev!l all this #politicalcorectnessgonemad in viedeo gamez is if I can't use my prec10us buzzwords?"
 
Every writter will reflect their beliefs in some form in what they do, is kind of what writing is about.

Can't we just say a writter is bad because they have childish narrative, don't investigate and their discourse is heavy handed and unsubtle? Why always go for retarded buzzwords. I think people should keep all that twitter shit back where it belongs.
 
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Im sure if the video game industry was full of neo nazis who put in messages of racism and gay-hate in games, campaign for more games like them, had all their games praised as the pinncle of gaming and had large swathes of the industy cowtow to them you'd be speaking a different tune.
Sorry people are talking about an issue you dont want them to talk about :^(
 
Yes because we really need games to be more like how that new Mass Effect game is clearly going to turn out(which will be a trainwreck).

SarcasticGoodGuy said:
But if the forced "diversity" subtracts from the quality/realism of the game, surely we're allowed to criticise it?
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You're not allowed to though, it's bad to be against this progressive bullshit. Why create a living breathing game world with its own beliefs and politics that differ from the beliefs and politics of today's modern day society?
 
Considering how I will even call out left wing wanking games for having bad writting even if I technically am on the same political spectrum.... Also, if that were the case nobody other than rednecks with tinfoil hats would buy them so it wouldn't be that big of an industry.

See guys, you are so fucking dumb you actually think I told you not to criticize shit, I literary just asked for a less retarded way of criticizing games instead of just chaining retarder buzzwords and twitter insults. But whatever guys, read whatever you want.
 
Its not just about people putting a bit of their point of view and beliefs in their own work. Its them shoving it down your throat and being praised for it because they have the "right" beliefs in the eyes of "game journalists". Gone Home is a peice of shit non-game that wins praise purely for pandering. Next up is how they DEMAND others follow their POV and will rail against people and games who dont. Theh'll attach "sexit" and "racist" until they get their way and fuck up a series they dont even play. Its a real issue and one worth talking about
 
MercenarySnake said:
Yes because we really need games to be more like how that new Mass Effect game is clearly going to turn out(which will be a trainwreck).
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Cautious optimism

Oh wait the lead writer has gone from a guy passionate about creating interesting words to a man who openly writes hate speech against whites on Twitter.

Walpknut said:
Considering how I will even call out left wing wanking games
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The writer for Borderlands, when asked about why he put diverse characters in the world, gave a reply of "why not?" - no valid reason. He could've said anything- thousands of years in the future no one cares about sexuality; a world without religious fundamentalists etc. But no, he opts for the laziest excuse that is so piss poor it can't be considered an excuse.

How is Borderlands not a left wanking game?
 
Again, my point is about actually forming a coherent critical discourse instead in place of just retarded buzzwords and twitter insults, nobody told you that you can't criticize left wing fiction. But I guess discussions online have groomed people into not even bothering reading shit and just assuming the most retarded strawman thing they can. No wonder Ken Levine is so popular.
 
Walpknut said:
Again, my point is about actually forming a coherent critical discourse instead in place of just retarded buzzwords and twitter insults, nobody told you that you can't criticize left wing fiction.
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Ah I see. You want us to fully go into detail rather than just use the term "SJW"? Right?
 
MercenarySnake said:
Nope, the last two games were written by that cuck Anthony Burch and he jammed some of his SJW beliefs into the game because that's what people want in games, I heard the Presequal went all out.
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Tbh in 2 it was pretty discrete beyond everyone being bisexual. Not like i care, never felt that they really shoved it in my face. The Pre-Sequel basically had a "Main" new NPC that was slightly harassing Athena, one of the playable characters.
MercenarySnake said:
You also had the stupid cartoony villain that wouldn't shut up and tell you the "eeeevil" things he did not show you.
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That's basically backstory found in BL2, basically murdering Tassiter and the New Haven refugees. And a lot more people.You can see a lot of his deeds though, in the aftermath or live, especially in the PS, when he becomes what we find in 2. Wasn't really deep, but i'd take him over a lot of FPS villains anyday. And still, he is always kind of right. Kinda
MercenarySnake said:
Then you have the repetitive gameplay which consisted of constantly looking to replace your current shitty gun with a slightly better shitty gun that shoots out goo or whatever because how obsolete they would become. Bazillion guns that all sucked and all usually did the same thing, point to enemy and click until it dies.
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Definitively. 98% Of the weapons suck, 1% are situational and 1% fun and usable. It said goodbye to the Assault Shotgun, LMGs, carbins, machine pistols, weird alien thingies and all from 1.
MercenarySnake said:
The characters like Tiny Tina were EXTREMELY grating on my ears and there was a plentiful amount of childish jokes like bonerfarts. Don't forget all of the DLC they kept shitting out. I think this series is either dying or dead to be honest, it's okay though as nothing of value was lost.
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Meh. Again, not on my face. The main DLC were good, though, ESPECIALLY Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep. The pirate one was alright and some Headhnters were nice but short, and introduced player characters talking. They added insanely good guns too.
I instead see a lot of potential, especially after TFTB. It is a mostly unique setting that can get lol random or dead serious, and i hope Gearbox doesn't screw up
 
Also, by describing games as "SJW" you are kind of attacking irrelevant things about what's wrong with it.

It seems to be attacking the type of politics that they are involving(EG., SJW suggets that it's only bad because it's extreme political correctness), as opposed to trying to force politics being bad in itself.

It kinda seems like you are saying "Games that trade realism to shoehorn in left wing policies about diversity are bad", when really the more appropriate thing to say would be "Games that trade realism to shoehorn in ANY kind of politics are bad, regardless of which side they are on."
 
JO'Geran said:
Also, by describing games as "SJW" you are kind of attacking irrelevant things about what's wrong with it.

It seems to be attacking the type of politics that they are involving(EG., SJW suggets that it's only bad because it's extreme political correctness), as opposed to trying to force politics being bad in itself.

It kinda seems like you are saying "Games that trade realism to shoehorn in left wing policies about diversity are bad", when really the more appropriate thing to say would be "Games that trade realism to shoehorn in ANY kind of politics are bad, regardless of which side they are on."
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But its SJWs who are the ones who are doing it. They're currently the issue. Its not an epidemic of zoroastrian Persian supremacists who are forcing their beliefs on people. Its a specific group who are doing this right now and so of course they're the ones we're gonna complain about.
Lol now that I think about youre complaining theres not enough diversity in who we talk about now xD
 
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