Reactions to the GI scans

[Tannhauser]

The gaming community has been a turmoil of opinion with the substantial information about Fallout 3 offered by the Game Informer article. There has been a number of different reactions, ranging from praise of Bethesda's abilities to tirades against Bethesda's incompetence. In most communities, opinion has been mixed, though certain websites have a majority of commentators that way in on one side or another.

There are gaming communities that are mostly positive about the information, such as Forumopolis, Octopus Overlords, Penny Arcade, and Something Awful. A quote from the Octopus Overlords thread:<blockquote>It seems very promising. I welcome all the changes done to the core FO1 and FO2 gameplay that I see here...
Lot of innovative things can be done here with use of a pure CRPG mechanism (agility based AP) in a fast-paced quickly resolving gameplay. They can put weapon switching and inventory handling restrictions (allowing that only in AP phase, or may be allow it in real-time but have a very strict penalty, where in AP mode, it can be done quickly) This way, character with more agility can still make a difference. Targeted shots in AP mode sound good...

Anyway, the best news is that SPECIAL and Karma system are there, and that Bethesda is trying to make changes to the real-time gameplay so as to effectively use SPECIAL system.

No level-scaling is also an awesome news. The art and atmosphere are right on the mark. This is, now, my most anticipated PC game.</blockquote>Likewise there are places with a more negative general reaction, such as GameSpot, Kotaku, or the Official Fallout 3 forums; the following is a quote from Kotaku.<blockquote>First Person? Am I the only one surprised about this? I love Fallout and I know I haven't been following closesly, but I expected Bestheda to not just retrofit elderscrolls into fallout.

Officially uninterested until I see different.</blockquote>Finally we have the majority of websites, which contain an predominately mixed opinions, such as Digg, Opa Ages, Quarter to Three, and Through the Looking Glass. A post from the Quarter to Three forums:<blockquote>Mixed opinions reading the article. With a lack of substantial details to go on the easiest thing to critique is the art. The vault looks quite good, less stylized and more functional than Fallout 1. More modern seems to be trend in the art, compare the vault uniforms for example. The shot of the Super Mutant is off putting though, it breaks the rules I've set for what Fallout looks like. I think that will be one of lingering issues, not the greatest, but one that will bother me. Preconceived notions will be difficult to match.</blockquote>An interesting mix of opinions, which will doubtlessly evolve as Fallout 3 approaches release.

 

[Slicerdicer]

Seems the reaction to the scans posted here at the Beth's Official site was to ban NMA and any links to it's front and picture pages.

Yep, no links to scans are allowed which is why links to the home page of NMA have been removed. If Game Informer has given permission, there would be no problem.

Damn Nazis!

 

[Pope Viper]

Wow.

Big surprise.

 

[POOPERSCOOPER]

This is one of the dumbest news topics i've ever seen, no offense. Does it really qualify to be on the front page with you highlighting some random tards opinions which are most likely one of us saying it on multiple sites.


I also heard SomethingAweful wants to buttrape you guys but keep it on the downlow.

 

[Xython]

Wow.

Big surprise.

Well, Bethesdia has to be as strict as possible with their website. Remember, they have to work with the guys at GI.

 

[Slicerdicer]

Wow.

Big surprise.

Well, Bethesdia has to be as strict as possible with their website. Remember, they have to work with the guys at GI.

Actually the guys at GI will lap up any spoog sent their way by Beth. So Beth doesn't have to get along with them just toss them an exclusive game leak and all will be forgotten. I thinking the scan thing was just an excuse to ban NMA like they wanted too for a long time but didn't because they would come off as Nazis. They look like the Nazis they are anyway IMHO.

 

[Tannhauser]

To clarify, they haven't banned or blacklisted NMA. All they have done is removed the link to our website from the fansite sticky, and remove occasional links to our front-page. Once the scans cycle off our front-page, things may be resolved. Direct links to specific threads or articles at NMA are permitted.

We will see if the situation changes at all once the Bethesda forums administration returns on Monday.

 

[Stag]

I don't understand this weird hatred for NMAers among other gaming circles. It seems to be a trend of sorts...Kicking those who are down isn't at all hard. And have those people who mock our complaints even seen FOBoS?

 

[neopl]

I don't understand this weird hatred for NMAers among other gaming circles. It seems to be a trend of sorts...Kicking those who are down isn't at all hard. And have those people who mock our complaints even seen FOBoS?

People think that we are angry fan boys... When in all reality, we just wanted the game which we've waited for for 10 years. Now we know that it isn't going to happen, ever. It is time to move on for me I think.

 

[generalissimofurioso]

I don't understand this weird hatred for NMAers among other gaming circles. It seems to be a trend of sorts...Kicking those who are down isn't at all hard. And have those people who mock our complaints even seen FOBoS?

It's a common thing in society to see those who complain about the current state of things as wierd and wrong. It's been that way ever since the days of yore (Slavery,wrong? I do believe you're daft!) all the way to today (Unionize? What is this, the Soviet Union?)

 

[Kan-Kerai]

OK Stag, you asked? Well, here's a completely honest answer. Those two guys don't get it, they're too young and juicy and tender.

NMA vs THE WORLD.

Regardless of any of their tastes I can't blame anyone sometimes for hating our guts. We're pretty bitchy/pathetic a lot of the time, also very arrogant/self-righteous.
The meter on that dropped when ROSH left though. People stopped imitating him which helped even more. Seriously though, we're douchebags.

However, the calling card of this place has fallen back to "READ STICKIES RAAGHaGHAgH!!". It's like we've gotten tired, or maybe think it helps public image to stonewall instead of immolate?

Oh, and nobody here is capable of coordinating mods or any other projects worth a flying fuck, either. It's like a point of pride, amusingly enough. IS [MOD NAME] DEAD OR ALIVE? HAS IT BECOME SOME SORT OF UNCERTAINTY LICH? HAY GUYS LET'S MAKE FALLOUT 3

I mean, jeez, the XCom fans have made like 80 gajillion remakes while in the same period of time we've collectively managed jack shit. We bitch. And bitch... and bitch. Oh my god I'm doing it right now

That Omega Syndrome guy is like the only one who's ever done anything. IMPRESSIVE

But yeah, NMA-bashing is TRENDY. Wayyyy more than half of them have never even posted here, or even come here for that matter.

Look at Something Awful, some of them clearly had bad experiences here. The rest? They just parrot OMG NMA ARE FAGGOTS LOL ad nauseum. Complete with that dumb fucking word filter. (whoops, I mean lovingly caressing)

Seriously. It takes over like every Fallout thread created there.

Story's basically the same everywhere else.

I KNOW THEY LOVE US
SO WHY WON'T THE BEATINGS STOP

Jesus, I think I just got an idea for an article.

People think that we are angry fan boys...

Well, yeah?

 

[Dracon M'Alkir]

I think that Rosh has alot to do with the reputation of NMA.

I mean, the reason I was afraid to register was because I was afraid of being verbally torn apart limb from limb by Roshambo.

I think someone already mentioned it before, but he'd flame away the Grim Reaper..

 

[alec]

Rosh was a righteous dude, true to his beliefs and honest as hell. I respected him and so should you, dawgunnit. I actually miss that geezer. Those were the good ol' days, I tell ya, those were the good ol' days.

 

[generalissimofurioso]

OK Stag, you asked? Well, here's a completely honest answer. Those two guys don't get it, they're too young and juicy and tender.

NMA vs THE WORLD.

Regardless of any of their tastes I can't blame anyone sometimes for hating our guts. We're pretty bitchy/pathetic a lot of the time, also very arrogant/self-righteous.
The meter on that dropped when ROSH left though. People stopped imitating him which helped even more. Seriously though, we're douchebags.

However, the calling card of this place has fallen back to "READ STICKIES RAAGHaGHAgH!!". It's like we've gotten tired, or maybe think it helps public image to stonewall instead of immolate?

Oh, and nobody here is capable of coordinating mods or any other projects worth a flying fuck, either. It's like a point of pride, amusingly enough. IS [MOD NAME] DEAD OR ALIVE? HAS IT BECOME SOME SORT OF UNCERTAINTY LICH? HAY GUYS LET'S MAKE FALLOUT 3

I mean, jeez, the XCom fans have made like 80 gajillion remakes while in the same period of time we've collectively managed jack shit. We bitch. And bitch... and bitch. Oh my god I'm doing it right now

That Omega Syndrome guy is like the only one who's ever done anything. IMPRESSIVE

But yeah, NMA-bashing is TRENDY. Wayyyy more than half of them have never even posted here, or even come here for that matter.

Look at Something Awful, some of them clearly had bad experiences here. The rest? They just parrot OMG NMA ARE FAGGOTS LOL ad nauseum. Complete with that dumb fucking word filter. (whoops, I mean lovingly caressing)

Seriously. It takes over like every Fallout thread created there.

Story's basically the same everywhere else.

I KNOW THEY LOVE US
SO WHY WON'T THE BEATINGS STOP

Jesus, I think I just got an idea for an article.

People think that we are angry fan boys...

Well, yeah?

Never been described using those words in a loooong time (makes it sound like I'm a chicken sandwich).

But yeah, you pretty much hit the nail on the head with that particular rant. We're irritable bastards with a penchant for dickery; that makes us easy targets for dismissal and mockery.

 

[Grotesque]

so.................................what now? Is there someone that has a clear plan what to do and fight for a true F3? What power do we have? Is there someone that knows what to do next besided moaning? I am all ears! and eyes!

what I am really interested is the reaction of tim Cain,Boyarsky or Janson Anderson, even though there are 99% chances to hear something diplomatic and not something like "Bethesda ass-raped Fallout franchize with a humongous pink rubber dildo dipped in cyanide!" Couald somebody contact them?

 

[RUN_LIKE_HELL]

I'm just glad that fucker is gone, the forum is a lot less hermetic since he left plus who need Rosh when we have Alec , in my opinion the most entertaining fellow in here (by his wicked sense of humour).

Yeah, we may be the ones that bark the most but at lest we don't cock sock Beth to fall in there good grace...if we didn't give a fuck about fallout we would be like all the rest...turd polishers.

 

[Punck_D]

I think that Rosh has alot to do with the reputation of NMA.

I mean, the reason I was afraid to register was because I was afraid of being verbally torn apart limb from limb by Roshambo.

I think someone already mentioned it before, but he'd flame away the Grim Reaper..

Rosh's nature also made people, especially newbies, think before they post crap and search the forums to educate themselves besides his radical manners. Even in case you came under his wheels he gave always one and another chance to make it better. But yes, he has alot to do with NMA's reputation.

 

[13pm]

To clarify, they haven't banned or blacklisted NMA. All they have done is removed the link to our website from the fansite sticky, and remove occasional links to our front-page. Once the scans cycle off our front-page, things may be resolved. Direct links to specific threads or articles at NMA are permitted.

We will see if the situation changes at all once the Bethesda forums administration returns on Monday.

It won't. Not long before GI was about to release the official sticky's been posted by Gstaff that they are not allowing scans or transcripts or links to them. So only after sometime GI is on the shelves it may change.

btw, the link to NMA in Kotario's sig is still present and working, so that's not blacklisting for sure

 

[zioburosky13]

Rosh's nature also made people, especially newbies, think before they post crap and search the forums to educate themselves besides his radical manners. Even in case you came under his wheels he gave always one and another chance to make it better. But yes, he has alot to do with NMA's reputation.

He might be harsh. But every word he typed has proof in it. :idea:

Except for some...

 

[quietfanatic]

Nor many others in the sigs. They must have to remove them manually, or maybe they need to use their search function that strangely refused to work with any words less than five letters long.

I miss Rosh as well.