Rules for Fallout

[Risewild]

Interesting Risewild, could you link those mods? I would at least like to have a look at their screenshots.

It's only one mod. It's TTW (Tale of Two Wastelands).
We're not on the Nexus because they don't want to risk Bethesda's legal fury, so we don't have screenshots either .

If I get some time I can try to make a short video or get some screens from TTW, but I barely have any time lately to even open a game.

 

[SquidWard]

This emphasis on Post-Apoc just churns out 76s, 4s, and 3s.

Fallout is Post-Post Apoc. The Post-Apoc was 2077-2100ish. Fallout is about everyone dusting themselves off, getting on their feet, and moving beyond simple primary concerns. Fallout should be about these people looking around and saying "Well, shit, the stuff from before didn't work, what do we do now?"

I don't think I had to necessarily specify that for if you have a decent understanding of the progression that occurs in 1, 2, and New Vegas you can see it. You could also place a game around the time of 1 or before it so it's not so much post-post apocalyptic. I get why you're saying that but it's definitely not what I, or probably a lot of us, really meant. We just meant that we don't want scenes or time spent before 2077 as it's not the point.

2) The Enclave is gone. Gone and buried. You can have other American remnants, but the Enclave itself was already weirdly specific, small, and of no real consequence.

I really like this one. And yes, Supermutants should never be in abundance. They were dying off due to the fear of them and their lack of vats and ability to reproduce. That's fine.

I'd want a isometric or whatever angle name you wanna call it for a standard sequel game. Now if we covered something more in the spin-off territory, I'd be fine with FPS-ARPG like doing something with Randall Clark (the dude that Sorrows call The Father in the Cave). But even then, it would probably be better left alone and just do a different spin off. I'm not completely against the FPS-ARPG but I'd rather have that for a game that definitely wants to focus more on action than role playing games. I think New Vegas would have been very interesting if it wasn't that FPS-ARPG.

 

[Big No]

Rivet City has no planters or food production at all. The flight deck has some jets and a makeshift baseball field instead.
That was why we had to create a new room in TTW with planters and fresh harvesteable crops adjacent to the Rivet City Lab (so it makes some sense).

This is what I was getting at. The problem with Rivet City isn't so much that it's a bad place for a settlement, it's that the food production in said settlement is nowhere to be seen.

 

[Pwener]

This is what I was getting at. The problem with Rivet City isn't so much that it's a bad place for a settlement, it's that the food production in said settlement is nowhere to be seen.

Did you not see the dozen vegetables and fruit on that one table in the lab? There's your food production right there.

 

[Risewild]

Did you not see the dozen vegetables and fruit on that one table in the lab? There's your food production right there.

Yeah, the ones that if you look at them, the scientists say something like "be careful with that, they are worth more than your life" and then they proceed to go to the table, snatch one of them and eat it .
You gotta love NPC idle packages .

I do know you're joking.

 

[NMLevesque]

Not this overdone obsession with the past such as the Minutemen wanting to dress like Independence War style soldiers or the mentioned Diamond City.

Caesar/Edward choose Imperial Rome as an example to shape a military...not because he wanted to cosplay Romans.

I think the key difference is that Bethesda only takes the cosmetics of something. It's just dressup. On the other hand, when history is referenced in a way that fits the pop culture reference rule, of not noticing that something is a reference if it isn't recognized, then that's probably ideal. I'm fine with Caesar letting you know his inspirations and all that, but honestly I think it would have been better if he alluded to them..and dropped the more overt indicators like speaking Latin and calling himself Caesar. With that approach there just isn't any way to lean on tropes or soft-plagiarism...and also the Legion would look less costumey.