FatMerc
First time out of the vault
I could have swore Dx9 did work, maybe I’m tripping. It’s also emulating a voodoo 1/2, if that matters.
Sfall win98 backport
- Thread starter kokeeby
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First time out of the vault
@FatMerc
BTW, if you don't mind, what kind of an error is it giving you on the built-in HRP? Is it just a crash or is there some error message? If you set in ddraw.ini in the [Debug] section
it should create a sfall-log.txt file in the Fallout directory on startup. Could you post it on pastebin or someplace else? Also the error message... 
I wouldn't normally ask, just curious where it crashes. I noticed, that if you have desktop color depth set to 8-bit, built-in HRP exits with a message of 8-bit mode being not supported - have to switch the Win98 desktop color depth to 16-bit. I always set color-depth in my Win98 VMs to 16-bit, so I didn't even notice... have to update repo instructions.
BTW, if you don't mind, what kind of an error is it giving you on the built-in HRP? Is it just a crash or is there some error message? If you set in ddraw.ini in the [Debug] section
Code:
Enable=1
;These options control what output is saved in the debug log (sfall-log.txt)
;Prints messages during sfall initialization
Init=1
;Prints messages relating to hook scripts
Hook=1
;Prints messages relating to scripting
Script=1
;Prints messages relating to the critical table
Criticals=1
;Prints messages relating to engine fixes
Fixes=1
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FatMerc
First time out of the vault
@kokeeby Ok, I’ve got a couple crash logs that I saved, one of these I’m unable to extract because dosbox saves any file you export to a .sav file. I tried to extract with iRAR but maybe you can get it out (I also tried renaming to .zip, no dice). And I have win98 screenshots of crash on kernel32. The dosbox zip is not zip its .sav; had to change name for upload. Also if you can tell me how to fix maps for non-HR I can help do the work. Noticed your message about desktop 8-bit and yeah that is my setting, so I’ll try that. Thought that might be an issue, but with so many possibilities I got frazzled. Another thought I had was integrating Ddraw 7 as option in stall?
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That particular error is not related to hrp; the access violation happens in the c runtime after the game has ended and the runtime is deallocated. The game starts, checks for the current desktop color depth, exits because it's 8-bit. Anyway, I uploaded a newer version, so use that one (it also has the fix for a recent bug in the talking head mod - https://github.com/BGforgeNet/Fallout2_Restoration_Project/issues/246).
I think the built-in HRP should work fine once you switch desktop color depth to 16-bit.
If you still want to play without the HRP, I updated the maps -> https://mega.nz/folder/ypVwwCQb#2AjZq6kGnoJs2z0FGw-zSQ
Extract into your FO2 folder. (you can rename the original mods\elevators.ini to something else so it doesn't get overwritten). You need to start a new game to have those maps working.
I think the built-in HRP should work fine once you switch desktop color depth to 16-bit.
If you still want to play without the HRP, I updated the maps -> https://mega.nz/folder/ypVwwCQb#2AjZq6kGnoJs2z0FGw-zSQ
Extract into your FO2 folder. (you can rename the original mods\elevators.ini to something else so it doesn't get overwritten). You need to start a new game to have those maps working.
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FatMerc
First time out of the vault
@kokeeby Hey it works now! It was indeed the desktop res needed to be set to 16bit. It plays and runs good, the only difference is non-res is a bit more snappy, but I ain’t complaining. Nice to see this working in all its glory. All the mods work too; no crashes yet (I’m about to do Rat God quest).
I imagine those maps will be popular (maybe) with mobile players.
I imagine those maps will be popular (maybe) with mobile players.
Hi! Could you please remind me which app you are using under iOS?
I have iDOS 2 but standard Fallout 2 (without sfall) is always crashing while loading, so no use to try it with sfall, I guess.
Well, after RetroArch is now available in the Apple Store, I was finally available to run Fallout 2 on my iPad!
It seems to work... Took me a few days, but this thread was very helpful! Thank you both!
Still need to test/play more to check full functionality (I did not use the maps with corrected blockers, since I want to use the updated Pixote maps).
@kokeeby, any chance you do an update of your sfall9x_i586?
Maybe after the next sfall update is out (which should provide the extended barter/inventory screens).
Nb: yes, it is more a hobby than serious play...
Edit: after trying it some more, the main issue is the stuttering audio of the videos. This is with RPU, Sonora etc.
It seems to work... Took me a few days, but this thread was very helpful! Thank you both!
Still need to test/play more to check full functionality (I did not use the maps with corrected blockers, since I want to use the updated Pixote maps).
@kokeeby, any chance you do an update of your sfall9x_i586?
Maybe after the next sfall update is out (which should provide the extended barter/inventory screens).
Nb: yes, it is more a hobby than serious play...
Edit: after trying it some more, the main issue is the stuttering audio of the videos. This is with RPU, Sonora etc.
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FatMerc
First time out of the vault
I don't get stuttering audio of videos, and I'm on iphone 8 plus. That could be a performance setting thing in RetroArch. I have my win98se modded with unofficial win98 service pack, win98 lite, and kernelEX. SB16 driver updated, iceman voodoo glide updated. My ram is capped at 1024 mb, cpu set to i586, cpu cycles Auto. Hope this helps.
Updated to 4.3.3.1, but I decided to maintain via dropbox. Installation on win9x is a bit simplified, hex editing shenanigans are no longer necessary, it should now be the same as on winnt. Check the readme.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/jhg0...ey=ccby9v1khvwcnwjgjenbrea28&st=sa6zwl4g&dl=0
Can you show your ddraw.ini and f2_res.ini?
Thank you for the details. I invested much less time by using Roland Deschain's version of Win98, which - i assume - is less optimized...
@kokeeby
I attached my settings as used for RPU29.
Thank you very very much for your sfall update! I have not used it by now (had some longer holidays), but will try it out soon!
Hi, are you still around? I checked the dropbox over the last days - will you update it to sfall 4.4.5?
I have the feeling the sfall changes become less and less important, but having this last version would be very nice. Thank you!
I don't think there is a need to use win98, and sfall backports..
Fo2 code has been reverse engineered, and now there are several projects that have Fo2 running natively on various OSes.. including Fo2 Vault Edition, that has full working features under sfall5 by Mr.Stalin, if you seet one boolean to true in the ddraw.ini ..
Fo2 code has been reverse engineered, and now there are several projects that have Fo2 running natively on various OSes.. including Fo2 Vault Edition, that has full working features under sfall5 by Mr.Stalin, if you seet one boolean to true in the ddraw.ini ..
Yes, but not for iOS... Apple is still too restrictive.
Well one other guy is using Fo2CE for his Sonora translation on iOS actually.. So pure non sfall Fo2 could run in iOS without much fuss.. other than that instead of running win 98 why not run winXP on a VM and have the full sfall support?
I mean probably both are pirated anyways so I have no idea why you bother with win 98 on a dosbox
I mean probably both are pirated anyways so I have no idea why you bother with win 98 on a dosbox
Fo2CE does not run on a non-jailbroken iPad.
I'm using Retroarch. Actually, I have a legal license of Win 98 from former times.
WinXP (e.g. in UTM) is not running fast enough on iPad.
But I will not die, if there is no longer support for sfall Win98...
You can try Win2k to see if it'd run faster. Newer sfall 3.8.x can run even on Win2k RTM (I tested it on my Pentium II server), and it works at very least for UPU/RPU/Et Tu.