The Final Virus

Have you ever tried it? No? Then don't talk about things you don't know anything about. Everything you can do in Windows can be done better faster and more efficiently in Linux. The only difference is user-friendliness, and the fact that most games are created for Windows. If you only have a PC for gaming, though, you should indeed stay with Windows. There is more to a computer than just games.

I never said that UNIX based OSes were bad. I'm merely saying that nobody makes anything for them. Until Linux has broader software support (not just games) its mostly just a sexy web browser for nerds.

Its like Apple people saying that Macs are great for digital editing. HOLY SHIT! You can run PHOTOSHOP!? Get the fuck outta town!\

Now, if we were talking about servers, then UNIX would be the way to go. But I'm not a server.
 
I never said that UNIX based OSes were bad. I'm merely saying that nobody makes anything for them. Until Linux has broader software support (not just games) its mostly just a sexy web browser for nerds.
Say what? Are you just playing ignorant or are you really that dumb?
Read this: Linux has the biggest developer base of any OS. And do you know why? Because practically everyone using it nowadays knows how to program. The biggest STRENGTH of Unix and Linux is that they have so many choices in programs, and most of them are more stable and better made than the Windows version. Seriously. As I said: use it before you bash it.

I'll just say it again, so I'm sure you'll get it: Linux and Unix have an incredible amount of programs made for it. Anything can be found for it, except most of the games.

Its like Apple people saying that Macs are great for digital editing. HOLY SHIT! You can run PHOTOSHOP!? Get the fuck outta town!\
Again: use it before you bash it. Mac IS great for digital editing, because it was mainly made for that. The major digital movie office was established by Apple. If you are going to go into Graphics design of any kind, you'll want a Mac. Listen to the experts, buster.
 
as far as I can tell it is true that there are plenty of soft for linux/unix, but... those are quite downgraded applications compared to some that are available under windows, one of the foremost visible one is the office applications, mainly the spreadsheet, MS eats them alive in this field.


As for Mac's and the whole graphic/showbiz it is much more of a fashion then real use. you can use the same graphic applications on the PC witch much more ease and better effect then on the mac, one button mouse? common have some common sense.
 
Well, Apple does offer 2 button mice for the Macs, but why the Hell would they not just include those with the packages in the first place?
 
as far as I can tell it is true that there are plenty of soft for linux/unix, but... those are quite downgraded applications compared to some that are available under windows, one of the foremost visible one is the office applications, mainly the spreadsheet, MS eats them alive in this field.
Actually, that's not true. Most programs look as if they've got less to offer because of the immense visual additions Microsoft adds, but most Linux and Unix programs have much more to offer and much more sueful things, especially from the point of view of the man who codes, because the people making the things for Linux make them because they themselves want to use those things. When a feature gets added, it gets added because the programmers miss that feature, not because the marketing department thought it would be neat. That's also one of the reasons why those programs are much more bug-free.
I do believe, though, that Microsoft still has the most versatile office programs, too bad they're still unstable and buggy as hell.
As for Mac's and the whole graphic/showbiz it is much more of a fashion then real use. you can use the same graphic applications on the PC witch much more ease and better effect then on the mac, one button mouse? common have some common sense.
*shrugs* I wouldn't know, I never used a Mac. I just listen to the experts. ;)
 
Thats why even the most hardcore linux users still use powerpoint when they need to make presentations.

sadly, there are no true solution/alternative to MS monopoly yet.
 
Sovz said:
Thats why even the most hardcore linux users still use powerpoint when they need to make presentations.

sadly, there are no true solution/alternative to MS monopoly yet.

Quite wrong. Depends on how you see "*true* solution/alternative", However there is an excellent solution or alternative.

Sander said:
I do believe, though, that Microsoft still has the most versatile office programs, too bad they're still unstable and buggy as hell.

An interesting belief and one held by most. However there are those past and present that can give truely informed examples to the opposite. Less so nowadays due to them being crushed underheel by the fact that people are not willing to try and find out whether or not a belief like that is "wrong".

It is interesting to see myths about Linux, Microsoft Windows, and Macs being propogated once again (probably even by myself but I can see them from others)
 
Personally I have nothing against Linux even though I don't know how to use it. Once it catches up in it's games support, I'll probably switch from Microsoft and never look back.
 
SkynetV3 said:
Personally I have nothing against Linux even though I don't know how to use it. Once it catches up in it's games support, I'll probably switch from Microsoft and never look back.

And driver support.

The only problem being, unless some miracle happens, Fallout and Fallout 2 will need to be played with WINE.
 
Windows will be forever exploitable due to Microsoft's pathetic security model, and nobody in the IT world worth their paycheck considers anything Microsoft to have a "security model" without some serious third party hardware or software intervention, and it still relies on what Windows allows them to do (hardware is better, especially if you have a Windows machine hiding behind an OpenBSD router). (With the proposed technology bullshit that Microsoft is part of promoting, third-party intervention is looking like it might not be possible soon, so bend over and smile in both directions for Microshaft.) It has been that way for...almost 20 years. I would hardly think it's exaggerating to expect Windows to still have such security concerns in the future; in fact it would be more asinine to promote the assumption that suddenly after many years of cutting corners and incompetence that Microsoft would finally get a clue and prevent such security issues before they start, rather than respond to any problem that has more than a few people noticing it.

In order to cut corners, they go from a wide-open system and then try to see where exploits can be fixed. That is FUTILE. Anyone who knows anything about computer security would tell you that is like trying to patch an arterial gash with a sieve.

In the open-source community, they went from "nothing is getting in" and opened up what needed to be opened up, with restrictions. Almost all *nix and BSD insecurities are caused by the administrator fucking something up in the config, without any idea what they are doing. In other words, a clueless Windows kiddy trying to use a *nix box, but can't find the drop-down menu for "High Security Settings That Still Allow My Program to Work".

XP and the updates to Windows server architecture were supposed to fix a lot of bugs an exploits. Care to explain why they get assraped weekly, even with their own "firewall" software, Kotario? Worms became even easier to write, spread, distribute, affect infected computers with, etc. when XP and other Microsoft software were released, among many other issues that makes it clear that Microsoft has never had an idea what "testing" and "security" mean.

Thanks for taking the technological world a step back, Bradylama. Your understanding of the open-source community is frightfully...stupid. It might not come pre-packaged in a shiny box at the computer store, but open-source software is both varied and numerous, and it's also free. It's also rather hard to miss on the internet. It also assumes that you know how to both operate a real OS and can work a compiler. The one very noticeable area where it is lacking is in terms of video games, but that's because most game publishers also follow Microsoft's crappy development methods, so your ignorance is understandable.

Or did you get stuck on what a tar.gz extension was?
 
An interesting belief and one held by most. However there are those past and present that can give truely informed examples to the opposite. Less so nowadays due to them being crushed underheel by the fact that people are not willing to try and find out whether or not a belief like that is "wrong".
What? You think I didn't try? OpenOffice doesn't come close to the versatility of MS Office. I wish it did. Or at least it didn't the last time I tried it (about a year ago).
 
Sander said:
An interesting belief and one held by most. However there are those past and present that can give truely informed examples to the opposite. Less so nowadays due to them being crushed underheel by the fact that people are not willing to try and find out whether or not a belief like that is "wrong".
What? You think I didn't try? OpenOffice doesn't come close to the versatility of MS Office. I wish it did. Or at least it didn't the last time I tried it (about a year ago).

The speed at which certain open-source and non-opensource programs get developed can be shocking. Actually OOo is a rather bad example, bloated and slow to say the least. I much prefer KOffice applications mayself. Then there is always abiword, scribus, quattro-pro (way ahead of it's time), star office, what was to be lotus at it's best time, etc and others, not just linux offerings.
 
well this threads sure as hell drifted off topic. from economic divebomb making viruses to open source vs windows..... oh well im staying out of this for now.
 
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