The grenade launcher is a grenade launcher

Automatic grenade launchers make sense in universe as they are anti-light vehicle weapons and I could see them working okay in an iso-TB Fallout (3 round burst) because of the mechanics of the system. I think that by going more action gamey, the weapon is in a continuation of the trend of increasingly ridiculous weapons (Fallout 3 was particularly bad) and there's the questions of balance and uses. I doubt that you're going to be fighting any vehicles in New Vegas (I certainly hope not), nor do I think that you're going to fight a giant army of enemies so it doesn't really seem to have much of a place. Add to that that an automatic explosive weapon just seems like it's going to be ridiculously powerful, and you have the question of why the hell put it in?

That all said, if they wanted a grenade launcher why not put in a semi-automatic grenade launcher? Seems like it would make a lot more sense.

As a side note, I overheard a member of Beth's target audience, a 13 year old kid, the other night talking about how awesome the railway rifle was so clearly their retarded ideas are popular with some folks.
 
http://www.militarypictures.info/nuclear/small_nuke.jpg.html

That's the shortest stick one I have seen. There isnt an area in the game of fallout3 where you could deal with a 2 mile fight. I mean, you could, but I dont even think the game can support such shots. yes, I think it would be cooler if this was a whole tripod setup. It was fast assembling, a couple of minutes. it had a rip-cord, that's about it after you assembled the stick and screwed in the tripod bolts

they had a 3 man group but you only needed one person to do the whole job. the legs and thin tube stick weren't very heavy. It was the warhead that had some poundage. I think 3 man group was designed to cause some DOUBT about randomly shooting the sucker. You could easily hold off a country with one and a devious for a good while.

The wikipedia version is the absolute worst. There is a dedicated page to this badboy that winds up for some fun reading. Pres Kennedy was a sick mofo, that's all I have to say.

Oh, here is the propaganda "declassified" version of Davey Crocket. There is so much bullshit that this country is founded upon, its embarassing.

Notice the technology control guy.... he's on....

A CB FUCKIN RADIO!! Yes, that makes me warm and fuzzy thinking that some grunt has a nuke in their hands and what is stopping them is a glorified trucker using the advanced CHAT system.

10-4 good buddy, apocalypse is a go! ye-ha! Oh, hold a sec, smokey says... *static* *death*

Notice the STRAW BROOMS at the end. This is the decontamination procedure. To explain how bad nuke material can be, 1 molecule of plutonium can spark cancer in a person.

I was reading about how such Davy Crockets could have been adapted to include a fusion device without much of a size increase.

Nice right? :o

The fun thing about the Davy Crocket is the probability of using plutonium, which was very high. This would have destroyed all life for many miles and caused premature death for a larger area.
 
el_jefe_of_ny said:
http://www.militarypictures.info/nuclear/small_nuke.jpg.html

That's the shortest stick one I have seen. There isnt an area in the game of fallout3 where you could deal with a 2 mile fight. I mean, you could, but I dont even think the game can support such shots. yes, I think it would be cooler if this was a whole tripod setup. It was fast assembling, a couple of minutes. it had a rip-cord, that's about it after you assembled the stick and screwed in the tripod bolts

they had a 3 man group but you only needed one person to do the whole job. the legs and thin tube stick weren't very heavy. It was the warhead that had some poundage. I think 3 man group was designed to cause some DOUBT about randomly shooting the sucker. You could easily hold off a country with one and a devious for a good while.

The wikipedia version is the absolute worst. There is a dedicated page to this badboy that winds up for some fun reading. Pres Kennedy was a sick mofo, that's all I have to say.

Oh, here is the propaganda "declassified" version of Davey Crocket. There is so much bullshit that this country is founded upon, its embarassing.

Notice the technology control guy.... he's on....

A CB FUCKIN RADIO!! Yes, that makes me warm and fuzzy thinking that some grunt has a nuke in their hands and what is stopping them is a glorified trucker using the advanced CHAT system.

10-4 good buddy, apocalypse is a go! ye-ha! Oh, hold a sec, smokey says... *static* *death*

Notice the STRAW BROOMS at the end. This is the decontamination procedure. To explain how bad nuke material can be, 1 molecule of plutonium can spark cancer in a person.

I was reading about how such Davy Crockets could have been adapted to include a fusion device without much of a size increase.

Nice right? :o

The fun thing about the Davy Crocket is the probability of using plutonium, which was very high. This would have destroyed all life for many miles and caused premature death for a larger area.
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el_jefe:

Yes, the 10mm cartridge did exist and still does to this day, it was actually adopted by the FBI in the 1980's (this was due to a shooting in Florida where suspects who were hopped up on drugs were not taken down effectively, kind of like the criticism of the NATO 5.56mm/ .223 round in our modern GWOT).

I actually want to correct some of the posters here about the premise of the 'automatic grenade launcher.' Actually there is no such thing as an 'automatic grenade launcher.' I am speaking from experience here; I was formerly a supply NCO and unit armorer before being accessed into the officer corps in the US military and one of my postings was as a unit armorer. I learned how to fix just about everything. My point here is that the MK19 is actually considered a machine gun (because of the rapid fire potential) by NATO forces (it is possible that other countries still have different definitions) even though it fires grenades, it's still a machine gun and this is modern day tech. No, I wouldn't want to try and carry one of these things around they are vehicle mounted/ crew served they weigh over 100 lbs and with ammo, almost another 100 lbs, so yah unless you have super high STR you're not going to be carrying one of these things around.
 
Power armour requirement for the machine gun grenade launcher? That would be cool.

Not only does it give 3 strength but also enables vehicle mounted weapons of a small sort.
 
el_jefe_of_ny said:
Power armour requirement for the machine gun grenade launcher? That would be cool.

Not only does it give 3 strength but also enables vehicle mounted weapons of a small sort.
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Didn't require it for miniguns, so it doesn't make sense to require it for the grenade launcher.
 
I would be in favor for it.

Unless you are a strong man on par with a regular Super Mutant, that you need to wear Power Armor in order to use a minigun, gatling laser, gatling gauss, or this new grenade launcher.
 
Why should it require a power armour for a 5mm personal minigun?
It fires ammo of calibre lower than .223 at about 2400RPM (40 rounds in 1 second burst). Is it really so improbable that a strong man would be able to fire it from a hip?
 
You can't zoom in with the minigun like you can with small guns so technically it's not shooting from the hip.
 
Sorrow said:
Why should it require a power armour for a 5mm personal minigun?
It fires ammo of calibre lower than .223 at about 2400RPM (40 rounds in 1 second burst). Is it really so improbable that a strong man would be able to fire it from a hip?
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Yes. The amounts of recoil such a bitch produces are abominable.
 
What if it's not a 1 second burst? Beside this, the minigun description in Fallout 1 and 2 is somehow bugging me.

"A multi-barreled chaingun firing 5mm ammunition at over 60,000 RPM."

60,000 RPM, how is that even possible? :p
 
It would have to be 10 times faster then current miniguns, or the m134.
Most likely a typo, or crappy information.
 
Tagaziel said:
Sorrow said:
Why should it require a power armour for a 5mm personal minigun?
It fires ammo of calibre lower than .223 at about 2400RPM (40 rounds in 1 second burst). Is it really so improbable that a strong man would be able to fire it from a hip?
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Yes. The amounts of recoil such a bitch produces are abominable.
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Even if we assume they managed the recoil somehow without fucking up lethality, there would still be the weight issue.

ST 7 req was really pretty low, in my eyes, but made sense from a gaming point of view. although i wouldn't have minded if they had made it a ST 9 or 10 requirement, if they had upped the ST gain from powerarmor.
 
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