The Non-American Politics Thread

The FN is neither as influential or as extreme as the media would have us believe, as far as I understand it. And they wouldn't be half as influential as they are today if the media didn't give them free publicity in order to scare people with "muh nazis".

Also, am I seeing shit wrong or is it every time that something terrible happens as a result of leftist policies, everyone's main concern seems to be the prospect of the right gaining support because of it? Even when they do have a legitimate point.

As far as FN goes, I intend to visit France one day, and when I do, I want it to actually be France. So whoever is intent on stopping this multi-culti nonsense that western Europe is keen on shooting itself in the foot with is alright in my book.

Well when you one day decide to actually visit France then maybe your opinion would have a bit more merit, as it stands its a bit too armchair. But until then I'll feel about my country how I do and vote regularly. I believe in France as it is and not some epoct notion of what it should be. France is multi culti as you put it because of its relationship with former colonies and the greater francophonic world. It might also disappoint you to hear Basque or German spoken in certain parts of France or you know the French Reivera once belonging to Italy until relatively recently. No European country is completely ethno homogeneous.
 
Italy didn't yet exist as a country when France annexed Nice and Savoy, as far as I remember.

And I think you know that it's not Basques and Germans, both of which have been inhabiting those parts of France for centuries (or longer) that I would mind.
 
I find hilarious how the people here in Colombia who are against the Peace negotiations also get super mad and flusttered when you ask them if they are going to enlist in the army then and go to the mountains to help on the conflict. It never fails to elicit a barrage of poorly constructed instults from them.
 
This from a Macri voter: "Let's give him a few more months, and if he still sucks we'll oust him just like we did with De La Rua." Why the hell did they voted him in the first place??? So that protests and deaths occur??? We never learn. BTW the new president's cabinet is nearly exact to the one De La Rua had, back when they yelled to the top of their lungs for everyone to leave, they voted them back into office. We need stability not this bullcrap!

The new government made so many unpopular changes in only the first month and a half that the positive image increase that usually follows a newly ellected president actually decreased in these few weeks since he took office.

We had good 12 years of stability, but apparently argentine society can't go too long before wanting for everything to go to hell again.
 
Whenever anyonye puts up Vice clips I can't help but that of the Documentary Now! spoof "Drones" and the pretentious dick bags at Vice. I once had the displeasure of attending an after party with some of those "reporters" talk about a group of self congratulatory blowhards. Its 60 minutes for the douchey 20 something crowd.
 
And this is one of the reasons why I was so outraged at Macri being ellected president of Argentina.

 
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It was fun in the Order!





Thx god, we still have some people with courrage and honor in the EU.
 
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As far as I know, no, not a bann from all sessions.
Referencing article 165 of the European Parliament's rules of procedure, Schulz stated that Synadinos' sentence represented "a breach of the values of the EU".
There most probably was or will be a hearing, with Synadinos, where he gets a chance to explain him self, and after that they will decide what measures should be taken. The worst he might face, is a temporary bann to some sessions.
 
I know a lot of Turks, what problem do you have with them? Sure Erdogan is a fucker, but ... well, so are many politicians in this world. Doesn't mean all the PEOPLE in said nations are fuckers.
 
If they're going to let a borderline dictatorship join the EU, they might as well have it be Russia, which is culturally a part of Europe.

Letting Turkey join the EU would basically mean subjecting all the peoples who have endured their occupation for centuries, and are still enduring the consequences of it, to yet another one.

Ultimately, all peoples get the governments they deserve. If Turks had the same values as Europeans, their government would reflect that.
 
And that's reason enough to insult a WHOLE nation with all their people? I told you, I know a lot of turks. Stop calling them fuckers (as I doubt you're just jesting here) over politics, please. There are enough turks that hate Erdogan and his goons as well. They are not mongrels. I don't know what you see as European Values anyway. Sure not the one displayed by nutjobs like Synadinos, who saw a need to quote Ottoman scientists and call all Turks dogs. Or what about Hungary? Poland? Itally with Berlusconi?
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Owning most of the TV stations, hookers in his limousine, payed by the state. European Values right there, I guess. The corruption in Itally is STILL extreme.

Synadinos should have known better. Yeah. Wars in the past have been started for less reasons, just saying. This is not going to help us in maintinging peacefull relationships with neighbours, what ever if we agree with the politics they do in THEIR nation or not. And both Turkey and Greece don't have the best relations to begin with.
 
Whoever wants Turkey to be a part of the EU is far more of a nutjob than Synadinos could ever possibly be. And if you intend to accept someone as a part of your political and economic union, you should care about what they do in their nation.

The way you say it, it sounds as if Turkey and the EU don't have any issues or relations to begin with. As if Turkey isn't destabilizing Syria, causing waves of refugees that it's then being paid by Europe to keep at bay.

Italy, even with Berlusconi, was nowhere near as corrupt as Turkey is now, or was at the time. And even then, saying bad shit about Berlusconi didn't get people imprisoned or worse. I don't remember Italy helping terrorist groups and destabilizing its neighbors either.

Hungary and Poland are doing their best to maintain their (European) culture and are constantly smeared because of it.

European values? Let's start with freedom of speech, thought and press, separation of church and state.


The muslim interviews were filmed in Istanbul, Turkey.

Also, you being acquainted with a lot of Turks in no way constitutes an argument.
 
Where did I said I want them in the EU ... Also wow! You found a video showing a crazy muslim. I am to lazy right now to look for a texan red neck talking about killing all muslims or some crazy German neo-nazi talking about killing all Jews.
Seriously? What is wrong with you? Why do you hate brown (aka Muslims) people so much? Have they molested you as child or stolen your sweet roll or something?
 
Where did I said I want them in the EU... Also wow!
When I asked about whether or not they were seriously going to let them in, your response was a vehement defense of Turks. And since you also believe that they are in no way different from Europeans, why would you not want them to join the EU?
You found a video showing a crazy muslim.
No, it shows a lot of crazy muslims, found easily in the most secular part of one of the most secular muslim countries. Why don't you go around your town asking people what they think about atheists, and count how many non-muslims tell you that they should be beheaded?
I am to lazy right now to look for a texan red neck talking about killing all muslims or some crazy German neo-nazi talking about killing all Jews.
The point isn't that such people exist, it's their numbers and influence on a given society that matters. Again, go out, and ask your fellow Germans, or Serbs for that matter, how they feel about atheists. Count how many of them say that they should be killed.
Seriously? What is wrong with you? Why do you hate brown (aka Muslims) people so much? Have they molested you as child or stolen your sweet roll or something?
Why do Jews hate Hitler and his ideology? Exactly how many people do muslims have to kill and how many countries and civilizations must they ruin before you get your head out of your ass?
 
Illuminati Confirmed, interesting you say that because increasingly, as of late, atheists are less and less appreciated in Western, white society because of strong recurrence of extreme conservatist waves.

Also, your last comparison is invalid.
Jews hate Hitler, not all Germans
You're going out of your way to discredit all Muslims. ALL of them. Not even all Muslims, but as Crni implies, other brown people too, just for being too brown. You've tried to explain this rationally, for several pages in the American elections thread, and you probably could keep explaining it, for hundreds of pages more, but it's just good old "Brown is the color of poo, therefore I dislike those people"-racism.
Embrace it, at least. Be true - to yourself!
 
When I asked about whether or not they were seriously going to let them in, your response was a vehement defense of Turks. And since you also believe that they are in no way different from Europeans, why would you not want them to join the EU?
What is European for you? What do you think makes someone European? The reason why I would not want Turkey in the EU is because of Erdogan and their current politics. Not because I think Muslims or Turks are worse people compared to Germans or French - who started the Hollocaust and Collonialism by the way? Ask the Africans how civiliced French people can be. Or Belgians for that matter. We Europeans are oh so proud, always, about our intellect. I've seen this superiority with the Kosovo. Gave them their indpendence, and now they denny people from the Balkan, fleeing AND dieing from poverty, entry in to the Eurozone.

Seriously. I can't hear this bullshit rhetoric anymore, my parents are from Serbia, I was born in Mannheim, Germany. I've experienced two cultures right from my birth. I have grown up and worked with so many different cultures trough my youth, that I consider my self and everyone else humans, not Germans, Americans or Europeans. And I have seen and heard it all ...

The Saxons don't belong here! They are not Bavarians! The Muslims/Black/insert-your-nation-of-choice don't belong here, they are not German! The Turks don't belong in the EU, they are not Europeans!

Why do Jews hate Hitler and his ideology? Exactly how many people do muslims have to kill and how many countries and civilizations must they ruin before you get your head out of your ass?

I just don't want to repeat history again, you racist twat. I have seen what this kind of politics can lead to, and it is still one of the darkest chapters in Serbian history, no one really talks about and would rather love to forget about.
Muslims = Humans.

Blame individuals for their actions, not religions or nations as a whole.
 
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