The Shock Doctrine

Gonzalez

Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Recent political events in my nation made me review this documentary. It sure does give a rundown of some of the views you have seen me share in these forums over the years.

[video=vimeo;26718047]https://vimeo.com/26718047[/video]
 
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Yeah I have that book, it's pretty good. She's a good writer, I also have "Give Me Liberty" as well.

We live in a world where rich people can cause the financial system to crash and then benefit off the crash due to their position and influence. It's a goddamn mess.
 
Yeah, but we always vote for those people. The truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well, certainly, there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
 
Down here the Argentine version of Berlusconi is very close to winning the next election, and the worse part is that his voters not only, well, vote for him, but defend him with claws and teeth, and harshly attack the current government whenever they can, I just had no idea there were so many of them. There is a theory that the current government got so much people out of poverty, and now being barely middle class they see themselves as oligarchs, or at least identify themselves with them, and that's why they vote for them, forgetting who got them out of poverty in the first place.

We live in an effed up world, but we vote for it, I say we have no right to complain.

I have to disagree with Naomi here, they still fool us, and they are still in control, and their methods still work. People have short memories and, I would say, selfish interests, but this could only be truth if they knew what was god for them, they don't. They get fooled once and again and bring these things upon themselves.
 
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I'll tell you to what point I oppose him, people like Macri make me want to be a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, but thus far I'm limiting myself to voting whatever is most opposite to him and actually have chances of wining, in this case the FPV. And to be honest, Scioli is almost as repugnant as Macri, but I'm hoping Zanini as VP and the rest of the FPV will keep him in line.

If Macri wins, all I can hope for is that the large FPV majority in the legislative will keep him in line.
 
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The three candidates are pretty tight lipped on platform specifics.

Besides Macri, do the others favor repayment to Repsol?

All three are against the re-privitization of YPF, which seems, in my limited understanding, similar to Kirchnerite policies.

All three favor increasing ties with the west and international finance institutions. This is a clear change.

All agree on using the military to cut down on drug czars although they differ on how to handle the Federal Police.

So any insight would be nice in regards to their platforms on social programs and unions. Macri is the only one I am getting a pro-business vibe from.

Lastly, who would you support, I mean an ideal candidate that might not win.
 
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Where do you get your info? Only one of them wants to use military in ant-drug ops, and Macri only said he is against re-privatization and the such in a desperate attempt to gain votes after his candidate nearly looses Buenos Aires (city) mayoral elections, but anyone who really knows him knows that's BS.

The third candidate has been already eliminated, only the ballotage between the two remaining ones is left. Macri is now close behind Scioli, and like I said, Scioli is only slightly better than Macri as a candidate. I'm voting for Scioli only because of his VP candidate and because his own party won't let him do anything stupid, else risk loosing their support.

The one I would ideally support ran for Buenos Aires gobernor ellections and lost. The other one I would ideally support is running as Scioli's VP.

As for Del Caño, the socialist candidate (the most leftist of them all) who ended up 4th, he's just a bearded commie hippie who has no connection with reality, like most Argentine commie hippies. We call them "troskos", because of their trotskyist ideology.
 
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I might have misspoke on the military issue. I will look up the guy who lost the elections in BA.

Actually,found more info but sources are varied like Argentinian Independent and Buenos Aires Herald, Reuters and others.

Let me know what good Argentinian sites that would have a 'closer' coverage of candidates if ya want.
 
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