The Unknown Critter Proto fields

[dude_obj]

The old critter proto spec lists some unknown areas hex offsets 0B-2F, 198-19A, and 19C-19F.
Here's some info about these unknowns:

0C-0F - Light Distance in hexes ( 0-8 )
10-13 - Light Intensity % (0-100)
14-17 - Flags (Flat, NoBlock, MultiHex, etc)
18-1B - Action Flags (Look, Talk)
1C-1F - Script ID (04000000h is Script ID 1)
20-23 - Head FID - Unused Function - default should be FFFFFFFF (None)
24-27 - AI Packet Number
28-2B - Team Number
2C-2F - Barter Flag (0=No, 2=Yes)
198-199 ???
19C-19F Damage Type (see below)

Damage Types
0 - Normal
1 - Laser
2 - Fire
3 - Plasma
4 - Electrical
5 - EMP
6 - Explosion

Discussion About these:

- The Light Intensity uses some weird binary value that I haven't figured out yet. You'd think it would be simple but no.

- The Flags and Action Flags appear to use bitwise logical operations to store and retrieve flag values.

- The Head FID thing is interesting, it looks to me like they were working towards interchangeable heads, which is what we'd need to make party members look like themselves in other armor. You can't browse any heads so I assume this isn't implemented.

- That last one, Damage Type, is the 4 additional bytes added at the end of the proto that FO1 doesn't have. Interesting, so you can assign damage types of electricity to a critter, or even explosion, it appears (I haven't tried these). kamikaze.

 

[Perceptron]

TeamX is going ahead of whole world!
Wasteland Ghost a few time ago has updated the documentation of PRO format.
But TeamX is very silent organisation and the big problem is translation to english.

0C-0F - Light Distance in hexes ( 0-8 )
10-13 - Light Intensity (0x000XXXXX – number from 0 to 65536 (0...100%))
14-17 - Flags:

0x00000008 – Flat
0x00000010 – NoBlock
0x00000800 – MultiHex
0x00008000 – TransNone (not tranaparent)
0x00010000 – TransWall
0x00020000 – TransGlass
0x00040000 – TransSteam
0x00080000 – TransEnergy
0x00004000 – TransRed
0x80000000 – ShootThru
0x20000000 – LightThru
0x00000020 – Light (see Light distance and Light intensity)
Remark: TransNone, TransWall, TransGlass, TransSteam and TransEnergy flags are alternative (mutually exclusive).

18-1B - Action Flags

0x00001000 – Use On Smth (can be used on smth)
0x00002000 – Look (can be looked on)
0x00004000 – Talk (can be talked to)
0x00008000 – PickUp (can be pickuped)
0x00000800 – Use (can be used)

1C-1F - Script ID

Format: 0x0Y00XXXX
Y – type (1 – spatial, 2 – items, 3 – scenery, 4 – critters)
XXXX – index (string number) in scripts.lst
0xFFFFFFFF - no script

20-23 - Head FID - Unused (Anchorite had described format of Head FID)

24-27 - AI Packet Number
28-2B - Team Number
2C-2F - Barter Flag

0x00000020 – Steal (can't be thieved)
0x00000040 – Drop (can't drop items)
0x00000080 – Limbs (can't lose limbs)
0x00000100 – Ages (dead body don't disappear)
0x00000200 – Heal (can't heal up)
0x00000400 – Invulnerable
0x00000800 – Flatten (don't set dead body on background after death)
0x00001000 – Special (have special death type)
0x00002000 – Range (have range hand-to-hand attack)
0x00004000 – Knock (can't be knocked down)

198-199

Kill Type
(see proto.msg, from string 1450)
Format: 0x000000XX
XX:
0x00 – Men
0x01 – Women
0x02 – Children
0x03 – Super Mutants
0x04 – Ghouls
0x05 – Brahmin
0x06 – Radscorpions
0x07 – Rats
0x08 – Floaters
0x09 – Centaurs
0x0A – Robots
0x0B – Dogs
0x0C – Manti
0x0D – DeathClaws
0x0E – Plants
0x0F – Geckos
0x10 – Aliens
0x11 – Giant Ants
0x12 – Big Bad Boss

19C-19F Damage Type (see below)

Damage Type
(see proto.msg, from string 250)
Format: 0x0000000X
X:
0x0 – Normal
0x1 – Laser
0x2 – Fire
0x3 – Plasma
0x4 – Electrical
0x5 – EMP
0x6 – Explode

 

[dude_obj]

10-13 - Light Intensity (0x000XXXXX – number from 0 to 65536 (0...100%))

In the mapper, setting this to 50% writes 80000h or decimal 524288, and setting to 100% writes 800001h. If the above is right, then setting this value to 10000h (65536) should be full light intensity, but it's not bright at all. I think you need to check these values. It seems like you can specify values between 0-50% (up to 80000h), then every setting from 51-99% stays at 80000h, but setting to 100% makes it 800001h. If you try these values on a dark map, you can see that 65536 (10000h) is not very bright but 800001h is full light intensity.

14-17 - Flags:
0x00000008 – Flat
0x00000010 – NoBlock
0x00000800 – MultiHex
0x00008000 – TransNone (not tranaparent)
0x00010000 – TransWall
0x00020000 – TransGlass
0x00040000 – TransSteam
0x00080000 – TransEnergy
0x00004000 – TransRed
0x80000000 – ShootThru
0x20000000 – LightThru
0x00000020 – Light (see Light distance and Light intensity)

Since multiples of these flags can be set on, must one use bitwise logic to check which flags are set?

18-1B - Action Flags
0x00001000 – Use On Smth (can be used on smth)
0x00002000 – Look (can be looked on)
0x00004000 – Talk (can be talked to)
0x00008000 – PickUp (can be pickuped)
0x00000800 – Use (can be used)

The mapper only seems to allow setting the Look and Talk flags for critters. The others are for items.

EDIT: Something else:

198-199

Kill Type
(see proto.msg, from string 1450)
Format: 0x000000XX

Changing the kill type writes the value at offset 19B. I think the kill type is 198-19B.

Strangely, they have huge spaces in these protos. Most things are 4 bytes wide even if they only need a single byte.

 

[Perceptron]

>In the mapper, setting this to 50% writes 80000h...

Strange.

>Since multiples of these flags can be set on, must one use bitwise logic to check which flags are set?

Yes, of course.

>Changing the kill type writes the value at offset 19B. I think the kill type is 198-19B.

Yes, you're right. My mistake.

>Strangely, they have huge spaces in these protos. Most things are 4 bytes wide even if they only need a single byte.

They just had used DWORDs for any value. Lazy rascals. But it's very easy to research this format.

BTW, original documents: PRO files format and FRM ID format (for talking heads and criiters) (on Russian).

 

[dude_obj]

They just had used DWORDs for any value. Lazy rascals. But it's very easy to research this format.

They are mostly full word unsigned ints and few half word unsigned shorts. If the whole mess is read into an unsigned char array, then they can be parsed like this:

unsigned int   fullword = (buf[i]<<24) + (buf[i+1]<<16) + buf[i+2]<<8 ) + buf[i+3];
unsigned short halfword = (buf[i]<<8 ) + (buf[i+1];)

Increment i by 2 (half word) or 4 (full word) to move to next field

Example using Art FID Number, it's 4 bytes: 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x18

0x01 << 24 = 0x0100000
0x00 << 16 = 0x00
0x00 << 8 = 0x00
0x18 = 0x18

100000 + 0 + 0 + 18 = 0x0100018 or decimal 16777240

The art fid numbers start at 16777216 (0x0100000)
16777240 - 16777216 = 24

So this is the 24th entry in critters.lst (masrat.frm)

I love the MinGW gcc compiler! Screw M$ VC

EDIT: Perceptron: I forgot to say thanks for the info about critter protos. TeamX is doing great stuff. I should learn russian before I learn french (which many people speak around here)

 

[Raven_2]

to dude_obj

I wrote simple app to read pro files. Just basic C training It can fully read only critter and scenery protos. I can send you sources, if you want.

 

[dude_obj]

I wrote simple app to read pro files. Just basic C training It can fully read only critter and scenery protos. I can send you sources, if you want.

That would be great yes. Please email it to me. I plan to make a new proto editor because the mapper won't handle stuff like new calibers and sounds codes, and other proto editors have bugs. That Fuck (critter tinkering thing) doesn't even include any of the fields discussed here, which are fairly imporant!

It's good to hear from you again raven2. I did experiments with the other code you sent me (the pop-up window and say commands) and I have some plans for interesting use of those.

 

[dude_obj]

2C-2F - Barter Flag
0x00000020 – Steal (can't be thieved)
0x00000040 – Drop (can't drop items)
0x00000080 – Limbs (can't lose limbs)
0x00000100 – Ages (dead body don't disappear)
0x00000200 – Heal (can't heal up)
0x00000400 – Invulnerable
0x00000800 – Flatten (don't set dead body on background after death)
0x00001000 – Special (have special death type)
0x00002000 – Range (have range hand-to-hand attack)
0x00004000 – Knock (can't be knocked down)

There is one more bit flag stored here, that is:
0x00000002 – Barter (allow barter)

It says barter flag 2c-2f above, but barter was missing. This address 2C-2F I would call Critter Flags rather than Barter Flags since barter is only one of them.

Earlier I mentioned a problem with Light Intensity, not sure what was wrong (probably wrong variable type) but it works now as you specified 0-100% = 0-65536.

I have the critter protos sorted out now. For the record, below are the formats. This is output from my c program (raw hex offsets and values are shown at the bottom).

PROTO ATTRIBUTES
 Proto  Type              Critter
 Proto  ID                40
 Proto  Message           4000
 Script Type              None
 Script ID                None

CRITTER ATTRIBUTES
 Critter FRM              16777230
 Body Type                0
 Kill Type                0
 AI Packet                22
 Team Number              1
 Damage Type              0
 Experience Points        120
 Light Distance           0 Hexes
 Light Intensity          0 %

SPECIAL                  Base   Bonus   Total
 ST Strength              7       0       7
 PE Perception            4       0       4
 EN Endurance             9       0       9
 CH Charisma              3       0       3
 IN Intelligence          3       0       3
 AG Agility               6       0       6
 LK Luck                  7       0       7

BASE STATS               Base   Bonus   Total
 Carry Weight             200     0       200
 HP Hit Points            40      40      80
 Healing Rate             3       0       3
 AP Action Points         8       0       8
 AC Armor Class           6       10      16
 Combat Sequence          8       0       8
 Unarmed Damage           0       0       0
 Melee Damage             2       0       2
 Critical Chance          7       0       7
 Critical Bonus           0       0       0

DAMAGE RESISTANCE        Base   Bonus   Total
 Normal                   0       30      30
 Laser                    0       75      75
 Fire                     0       10      10
 Plasma                   0       20      20
 Electrical               0       0       0
 EMP                      0       500     500
 Explosion                0       25      25
 Radiation                18      0       18
 Poison                   45      0       45

DAMAGE THRESHOLD         Base   Bonus   Total
 Normal                   0       4       4
 Laser                    0       6       6
 Fire                     0       4       4
 Plasma                   0       4       4
 Electrical               0       0       0
 EMP                      0       0       0
 Explosion                0       4       4

SKILLS                   Base   Bonus   Total     Derivation
 Small Guns               29      34      63 %    (AG x 4)  +5    
 Big Guns                 12      29      41 %    (AG x 2)        
 Energy Weapons           12      9       21 %    (AG x 2)        
 Unarmed                  56      9       65 %    (ST + AG) x2 +30
 Melee                    46      15      61 %    (ST + AG) x2 +20
 Throwing                 24      29      53 %    (AG x 4)        
 First Aid                14      0       14 %    (PE + IN) x2    
 Doctor                   12      0       12 %    (PE + IN) +5    
 Sneak                    23      0       23 %    (AG x 3)  +5    
 Lockpick                 20      0       20 %    (PE + AG) +10   
 Steal                    18      0       18 %    (AG x 3)        
 Traps                    20      0       20 %    (PE + AG) +10   
 Science                  12      0       12 %    (IN x 4)        
 Repair                   9       0       9 %     (IN x 3)        
 Speech                   15      0       15 %    (CH x 5)        
 Barter                   12      0       12 %    (CH x 4)        
 Gambling                 35      0       35 %    (LK x 5)        
 Outdoors                 24      0       24 %    (EN + IN) x2    

ACTION FLAGS
 Enable Look              Yes
 Enable Talk              Yes

CRITTER FLAGS
 Enable  Barter           No 
 Disable Steal            No 
 Disable Item Drop        No 
 Disable Limb Loss        No 
 Disable Body Aging       No 
 Disable Healing          No 
 Enable  Invulnerable     No 
 Disable Flatten Anim     No 
 Enable  Special Death    No 
 Enable  Extra HTH Range  No 
 Disable Knockdown        No 

PROTO FLAGS
 Flat Object              No 
 Disable Blocking         No 
 MultiHex Object          No 
 Transparent None         No 
 Transparent Wall         No 
 Transparent Glass        No 
 Transparent Steam        No 
 Transparent Energy       No 
 Transparent Red          No 
 Enable Shoot Through     No 
 Enable Light Through     Yes


RAW PROTO DATA

Description               Offset  Hex Value       Decimal       Derived

PROTO DATA
 Proto Type               0x0000  0x0100          256           [Critter]
 Proto ID                 0x0002  0x0028          40
 Proto Message Number     0x0004  0x00000FA0      4000
 Critter FID Number       0x0008  0x0100000E      16777230
 Light Distance           0x000C  0x00000000      0
 Light Intensity          0x0010  0x00000000      0             [0%]

PROTO FLAGS               0x0014  0x20000000      536870912
 Flat Object                      0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Blocking                 0b              0             [No ]
 MultiHex Object                  0b              0             [No ]
 Transparent None                 0b              0             [No ]
 Transparent Wall                 0b              0             [No ]
 Transparent Glass                0b              0             [No ]
 Transparent Steam                0b              0             [No ]
 Transparent Energy               0b              0             [No ]
 Transparent Red                  0b              0             [No ]
 Enable Shoot Through             0b              0             [No ]
 Enable Light Through             1b              1             [Yes]

ACTION FLAGS              0x0018  0x00006000      24576
 Enable Look                      1b              1             [Yes]
 Enable Talk                      1b              1             [Yes]

PROTO DATA
 Script Type              0x001C  0xFFFF          65535         [None]
 Script Number            0x001E  0xFFFF          65535
 Talking Head FID         0x0020  0xFFFFFFFF      -1
 AI Packet                0x0024  0x00000016      22
 Team Number              0x0028  0x00000001      1

CRITTER FLAGS             0x002C  0x00000000      0
 Enable  Barter                   0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Steal                    0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Item Drop                0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Limb Loss                0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Body Aging               0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Healing                  0b              0             [No ]
 Enable  Invulnerable             0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Flatten Anim             0b              0             [No ]
 Enable  Special Death            0b              0             [No ]
 Enable  Extra HTH Range          0b              0             [No ]
 Disable Knockdown                0b              0             [No ]

SPECIAL Base
 ST Strength              0x0030  0x00000007      7
 PE Perception            0x0034  0x00000004      4
 EN Endurance             0x0038  0x00000009      9
 CH Charisma              0x003C  0x00000003      3
 IN Intelligence          0x0040  0x00000003      3
 AG Agility               0x0044  0x00000006      6
 LK Luck                  0x0048  0x00000007      7

STATS Base
 HP Hit Points            0x004C  0x00000028      40
 AP Action Points         0x0050  0x00000008      8
 AC Armor Class           0x0054  0x00000006      6
 Unarmed Damage           0x0058  0x00000000      0
 Melee Damage             0x005C  0x00000002      2
 Carry Weight             0x0060  0x000000C8      200
 Sequence                 0x0064  0x00000008      8
 Healing Rate             0x0068  0x00000003      3
 Critical Chance          0x006C  0x00000007      7
 Critical Bonus           0x0070  0x00000000      0

DAMAGE THRESHOLD Base
 Normal                   0x0074  0x00000000      0
 Laser                    0x0078  0x00000000      0
 Fire                     0x007C  0x00000000      0
 Plasma                   0x0080  0x00000000      0
 Electrical               0x0084  0x00000000      0
 EMP                      0x0088  0x00000000      0
 Explosion                0x008C  0x00000000      0

DAMAGE RESIST Base
 Normal                   0x0090  0x00000000      0
 Laser                    0x0094  0x00000000      0
 Fire                     0x0098  0x00000000      0
 Plasma                   0x009C  0x00000000      0
 Electrical               0x00A0  0x00000000      0
 EMP                      0x00A4  0x00000000      0
 Explosion                0x00A8  0x00000000      0
 Radiation                0x00AC  0x00000012      18
 Poison                   0x00B0  0x0000002D      45

STATS Base
 Age                      0x00B4  0x00000019      25
 Gender                   0x00B8  0x00000000      0

SPECIAL Bonus
 ST Strength              0x00BC  0x00000000      0
 PE Perception            0x00C0  0x00000000      0
 EN Endurance             0x00C4  0x00000000      0
 CH Charisma              0x00C8  0x00000000      0
 IN Intelligence          0x00CC  0x00000000      0
 AG Agility               0x00D0  0x00000000      0
 LK Luck                  0x00D4  0x00000000      0

STATS Bonus
 HP Hit Points            0x00D8  0x00000028      40
 AP Action Ponits         0x00DC  0x00000000      0
 AC Armor Class           0x00E0  0x0000000A      10
 Unarmed Damage           0x00E4  0x00000000      0
 Melee Damage             0x00E8  0x00000000      0
 Carry Weight             0x00EC  0x00000000      0
 Sequence                 0x00F0  0x00000000      0
 Healing Rate             0x00F4  0x00000000      0
 Critical Chance          0x00F8  0x00000000      0
 Critical Damage          0x00FC  0x00000000      0

DAMAGE THRESHOLD Bonus
 Normal                   0x0100  0x00000004      4
 Laser                    0x0104  0x00000006      6
 Fire                     0x0108  0x00000004      4
 Plasma                   0x010C  0x00000004      4
 Electrical               0x0110  0x00000000      0
 EMP                      0x0114  0x00000000      0
 Explosion                0x0118  0x00000004      4

DAMAGE RESIST Bonus
 Normal                   0x011C  0x0000001E      30
 Laser                    0x0120  0x0000004B      75
 Fire                     0x0124  0x0000000A      10
 Plasma                   0x0128  0x00000014      20
 Electrical               0x012C  0x00000000      0
 EMP                      0x0130  0x000001F4      500
 Explosion                0x0134  0x00000019      25
 Radiation                0x0138  0x00000000      0
 Poison                   0x013C  0x00000000      0
 Age                      0x0140  0x00000000      0
 Gender                   0x0144  0x00000000      0

SKILLS Bonus
 Small Guns               0x0148  0x00000022      34
 Big Guns                 0x014C  0x0000001D      29
 Energy Weapons           0x0150  0x00000009      9
 Unarmed                  0x0154  0x00000009      9
 Melee                    0x0158  0x0000000F      15
 Throwing                 0x015C  0x0000001D      29
 First Aid                0x0160  0x00000000      0
 Doctor                   0x0164  0x00000000      0
 Sneak                    0x0168  0x00000000      0
 Lockpick                 0x016C  0x00000000      0
 Steal                    0x0170  0x00000000      0
 Traps                    0x0174  0x00000000      0
 Science                  0x0178  0x00000000      0
 Repair                   0x017C  0x00000000      0
 Speech                   0x0180  0x00000000      0
 Barter                   0x0184  0x00000000      0
 Gambling                 0x0188  0x00000000      0
 Outdoors                 0x018C  0x00000000      0

PROTO DATA
 Body Type                0x0190  0x00000000      0
 Experience Points        0x0194  0x00000078      120
 Kill Type                0x0198  0x00000000      0
 Damage Type              0x019C  0x00000000      0

 

[Mandelbrot]

So now in using this information is it possible to turn pigrats into an intelligent species that like to barter? That's not meant to be a sarcastic comment. I think it would be rather an interesting concept to have the creatures of fallout turned intelligent from their mutations and instead of playing a human against the mutants you could play a whole new version where the new races of intelligent mutant pigrats are fighting for their own survival accross the wastelands.

"Pigrat Oblio and his trusted companion Crusty the radscorpion head off into the wastes to find a place where they can live a simple life of peace and serenity all the while encountering the evil race of humans who are bent on destroying the civil pigrat culture."

 

[dude_obj]

Within the range limits of the fields (1-10 stat, 0-300 skill etc) yes you can pretty much change anything in these protos. The only real difference between humans and animals is artwork. Change the Critter FRM (Art FID number) and you can make a person into a molerat. It's a bit difficult to fathom a mutation that suddenly grows a neocortex.

 

[Perceptron]

>It says barter flag 2c-2f above, but barter was missing. This address 2C-2F I would call Critter Flags rather than Barter Flags since barter is only one of them.

In TeamX documentation they called "Critter Flags" too. It's my mistake.

>Earlier I mentioned a problem with Light Intensity, not sure what was wrong (probably wrong variable type) but it works now as you specified 0-100% = 0-65536.

Yes, I'd checked it in the mapper too.

Do you want to write a documentation about PRO files? It would be great.

 

[dude_obj]

Do you want to write a documentation about PRO files? It would be great.

Yes, this is forthcoming. I looked at the teamx pro formats using babelfish to translate. One thing I did differently is where they show something like 0x0Y00XXXX (like script type and number) I parse them as different 2byte fields. I think the docs should specify so.

I was able to load the whole proto in an unsigned char array (packed attrib) in a struct, then simply shift an offset to loop through all fields and parse. Where there are 2 byte fields I do a 16-bit shift and where 4 byte fields a 32-bit shift. Checking the 3 flag fields uses bitwise AND:

if ((critterProtoField[protoFlags] & protoFlagComparator) != 0)
// indicates the flag is 1

Where comparator is the bit identifier like 0x00000002 for barter. Setting the flag is opposite bitwise OR:

critterProtoField[protoFlags] = critterProtoField[protoFlags] ^ protoFlagComparator)


Question: Do you know what the FLAT flag means? What happens if this is set to YES?

 

[Raven_2]

>>Question: Do you know what the FLAT flag means? What happens if this is set to YES?

It used for scenery object. It set ... well, call it z-order... to 0. I.e. "flat" scenery in some cases would be under the wall or other scenery, and "non-flat" would be over.