This is why I prefer New Vegas. Why or why dont you?

Walpknut said:
I once read a Beth fanboy that said that New Vegas is more rail roaded because quests close off if you hep the Quest giver's enemies... That's like... just... full retard.... no..... beyond full retard....
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why would we want a dynamic game? where's the fun in player choices? :roll:
 
I actually wish video game dialogue would be done at a natural conversation pace. Doesn't anybody else really hate it when NPCs seem to talk a lot slower than you can read the subtitles and click through their voice acting, or even slower than you'd speak back if you were actually replying with your own voice? I noticed this a lot with some of the NPCs in both New Vegas and Fallout 3. I know it's a pretty minor thing to complain about, but it's still something that bugs me.
 
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It's a necessary break from reality all fiction uses for the sake of clarity, there are exceptions of course but in every piece of media characters talk slower than real people would.
 
Warhawk said:
New Vegas is swell until you hit the wall and realize the game is over. There are only so many combinations, so many outcomes, and like F3, there are plenty of broken and dead-ending quests, pointless story arcs that have fudged endings, and ultimately the big elephant in the room:

Invisible walls preventing you from exploring a world you just know is incredibly large. A world you cannot touch. A world the NPCs harp on about but never allow you to see. A burgeoning nation-state here, a tribal empire there, but you just can't touch it. You find much more coherent and intriguing lore in New Vegas, but by the end of the day, whether you're staring across the naval yard from Rivet City, or out across the desert landscape from the farthest Boomer lookout tower at Nellis, you know in the back of your mind that there is simply nothing rendered there. No meaning. No sense. At once a blank slate, ripe for creation, and a truly barren wasteland without a shred of potential. How depressing is it to follow rail lines to broken bridges, even though the lore claims that there are trains pulling NCR reinforcements up? How pitiful that you can see highway overpasses that you cannot touch, power lines stretching to nowhere, the occasional road that bends around a hill and stops, or that highway leading out of Mojave Outpost that disappears in plain view behind an arbitrarily locked gate?

Earlier Fallouts felt like good ol' RPGs to me. These games made me want to explore, and left me hanging.

That leaves you with one option: Invest in the location. But you simply cannot. Your character, no matter how omnipotent, stat-bloated, plot-armored and lucky, can't so much as pitch a tent, build a wall, start a family, raise an army, build a country. The lore and NPCs claim that they are, and yet all you see are sun-baked roads, random fauna, and inaccessible buildings which may as well be giant cubes dotting the landscape. For a game supposedly allowing people to live out post-apocalyptic fantasies of freedom and creativity, it really doesn't leave much to work with. And the more I attempt to tweak it with mods and the console, the less real it gets.
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The thing is about the gate, if Obsidian had been given more time it looks like you'd be able to go through it,
if you TCL outside of it there is a ruined house and the beginnings of a road it could have been the beginning of a bigger world
 
New Vegas is my favorite game of that "generation" (even though it's still fairly recent). Playing Fallout 4 has had only one good effect and that is to make me want to go back and play Fallout: New Vegas.
 
Fallout 4 took beth 4 years to make. After 50 hours I have no desire to play it anymore. I have 500+ hours combing console and PC playing of New Vegas and that number is rising. New Vegas took 18 months to make but 10x the talent. I prefer New Vegas because it's made by people who can actually make good games.
 
Vergil said:
Fallout 4 took beth 4 years to make. After 50 hours I have no desire to play it anymore. I have 500+ hours combing console and PC playing of New Vegas and that number is rising. New Vegas took 18 months to make but 10x the talent. I prefer New Vegas because it's made by people who can actually make good games.
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FO4 bored me so fast...
I'm L68 or something by now, and my last 2-3 plays were just... out of a sense of... idunno... pity? Just going back to shoot some more mutants, level up a lil, build some crap in my settlements.
I played through Mad Max just before that, which has less "crafting", less looting, less missions and quests, but still much more of a real emotional impact, much more genuine drive to push through and see where the story goes. It also felt more mature. Bethesda's Fallout can be as gory as they want, there's still this strong feeling that it is meant to be shared with teens and kids

New Vegas still has not bored me, even if I know the game in and out, doesn't matter
Same with FO2, I have another save going as we speak, just pausing it for a while

I also started a new Morrowind game earlyer this year :D

A friend of mine is L80+ in FO4, and he was shocked when I told him I had explored/opened all map-locations, and found myself bored with the game. He has not yet finished all the non-radiant quests, and not completed the main quest, and according to him he has only explored a small portion of the map. I just don't know how that's possible... like a magic trick :I
 
Your friend proably used console commands or he compulsively build a bunch of chairs in the settlements.
 
Walpknut said:
Your friend proably used console commands or he compulsively build a bunch of chairs in the settlements.
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Nope, he's the guy I've mentioned before, he is vehemently against FO2, for example - never having tried it, but he hates it passionately because it represents the opposition to FO3, which he loves. I have tried on several occasions to explain to him how much of a "beth fanboy" that makes him - a grown man - but he disagrees.
This means that he is also furiously against computers, and has been talking about the "Playstation vs PC war" many times, to which I can only respond with amazed confusion. He insists that soon, all computers will be replaced with playstation.
When I ask him how he proposes space exploration, or city electricity grids be managed with playstation he just pauses, resets, and tells me that soon all computers will be replaced with playstation.

But, you know, pals... what can you do :roll:

What's interesting though, is that he DOES play FO4 - exactly as intended!
He explores the map as if it was truly infinite, he treats the neverending stream of enemies as something of high priority, and focuses gameplay around the aquisition of legendary items
 
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