Ugh, you die hard, cult following fans kill me...

[Gay Wolf]

I mean it's just a game guys... Infact, I never even heard of Fallout untill I got it for FREE when it came with Baldur's Gate 1 Gold Box. Thats when it struck me that Fallout was a unique, and fun game. I enjoyed playing it, and it really was a kickass turn based RPG. But this new game, yeah yeah you all say the screen shots look like shit, but dont most games in production screens look bad? I mean it's not even out yet and you all think "Well this is hunk of deathclaw shit...". You never know, you might actually like the game for a change. All I'm saying is give FO:BOS a chance. When it's all said and done, you know your going to buy it, because were all sheep. If they came out with a Fallout Movie staring Arnold Schwarzenegger as the gun slinging, ass kicking, mutant slaying, Vault Dweller you would go see it, even if every critic in the world gave it 2 thumbs and 2 big toes down. Don't listen to all these cronies bitch about how Interplay blows and they are gonna go bankrupt. Make your own choice. Just my 2 cents.

"I'll be back.......with the water chip."
-Arnold

[Insert your flame here]

 

[Mohrg]

You just don't understand because you haven't really followed Fallout from it's beginnings.

Mohrg

 

[DarkUnderlord]

Ugh, you die hard, cult following fans kill me...

Well, I'm fairly certain you're already brain dead, so turning off the machine won't be that much of a hassle.

[insert your reply here]

I mean it's just a game guys... Infact, I never even heard of Fallout untill I got it for FREE when it came with Baldur's Gate 1 Gold Box. Thats when it struck me that Fallout was a unique, and fun game. I enjoyed playing it, and it really was a kickass turn based RPG.

See, now that's funny, 'cause an action hack 'n slash is neither turn-based, unique or has anything to do with RPGs.

 

[Gay Wolf]

You must be brain dead as well because if you think Fallout is NOT turn based... well then you know nothing about the entire combat system then. Also, What I meant by the title is that alot of the people bashing FO:BOS otherwise refered to as POS, dont know anything about FO:BOS. When I first got onto these forums, and saw the title Fallout: Piece of Shit, I was greeted with a heavy sigh. Honestly, do any of you work on Chucks developement team? You work at Interplay? Do you get the "inside scoop" on everything? Maybe the screenshots of Mrs. Thong were beta, and wont even appear in the final version. This is not uncommon. Now this idiotic behavior does not include all of you, just the ones that think they know everything about the game, and Interplay.

Now Dark, I dont want to get into explaining the true definition of an RPG to you. I'm sure a big guy like you can figure that out. Well, if not I will post a nice little link for you at the end of this post.

I can't see why you don't spot the humor in my post. It was made as a wake up call to reality. I'm just as eager to play Fallout 3 as the next guy, but passing the time by bashing another Fallout game thats not even completed isen't the answer young grasshopper. Anyways, It was nice to respond to one of the many flames I will recieve for being right

DarkUnderlord, here is your link. I hope you learn something...
http://diabloii.net/columnists/a-rpg-types.shtml

 

[Mohrg]

Grey, you've played Fallout obvisouly, so read this.

I noticed that SP had gotten word about an interview with Chuckie the rat-slayer, and you just have to read this:

GCM: Setting out to create a version of Fallout for the world of consoles, what were your biggest concerns?

Chuck Cuevas: The biggest concern was conveying the world of Fallout and introducing it to a new genre. The action adventure genre differs greatly from the original games that were set in the post-apocalyptic earth of the future. Action gamers tend to want to shoot and blow up stuff more then other gamers. Fans of the original games wanted to be able to talk their way out of a situation. Knowing this difference, we decided it was more fun to shoot first and ask questions later. So while the gameplay has changed greatly, the world has not. There are still plenty of rats to kill and ghouls to hammer into the dirt while looking for that next great gizmo.

This is just a small example of what looks to come. This is NOT Fallout. It may not be made yet, but if it's made like this, once again, not Fallout. Us Fallout fans want a game that is going to be Fallout and this is a small reason why we dislike what is being made of FO:BOS. Plus it's on a console.
(Thank jeebus I can spell "Fallout." Fallout....)

And I am not even going to get started on that article about RPGs. MGS2 and RPG?! LMFAO!

Mohrg

 

[Gay Wolf]

Mohrg, please tell me what you think about that article. I mean you do know RPG stands for right? Role playing game, which by definition means you play a role. Man... see what you have done, you already got me explaining what that article PLAINLY stated. You kids need some reading skills, cause obviously you just dont absorb what you read, or you have dyslexia

 

[Mohrg]

No, I have no idea what RPG stands for and I refuse to go off into a flamefest with you. So, with that in mind....................................................................................................
























I WIN!

Mohrg

 

[Briosafreak]

Grey Wolf you are free to think what want and say it, but putting as a title "Ugh, you die hard, cult following fans kill me..." is something we don`t appreciate here, taking our connection with Fallout and make it seem a loony cult thing is too silly to be true. Everyone here has other interests , besides the ties to the game, reducing us to that stereotype isn`t helpfull in any way for you to try to win someone with your arguments.

And you could have read the other threads, where everything you said was already covered, so you made a brave but pointless effort, really...

This is Roshambo`s place so i`ll let him deal with this

Yeah Mhorg6sic6 you win

 

[Gay Wolf]

And the kids come out and play. You win, yay. Have a cookie. Really, its chocolate chip

What I wanted to say, was unlike anything anybody has said in any of the threads (believe me, I checked) and if you can prove me otherwise, feel free to do so. Yes, I admit, I'm a big fan of the Fallout series, but I dont go around on threads acting like I'm a know-it-all. At times I can be ignorant, but I'm human. Now the fact is everybody has their own opinion, and I very much respect that. All I ask is that you take mine into consideration instead of posting a few quotes from me and flaming them like nobodys business (ala DarkUnderlord).

All in all, I just want my opinion heard. Feel free to dip me in the vats, but it only makes me more right.

So, in the fasion of Arnold in the 2007 block buster hit Fallout: Judgement Day

"I'll be back.......with the water chip."
-Arnold

 

[Sander]

but it only makes me more right

NOTHING can make you more right, sjeesj.

Also, I think tha everybody's opinion is very much respected around here, however, that doesn't mean that flaming(What is very obviously being done in this thread, just look at the name) is a good thing. While you want to express your opinion(what are forums for?), you don't need to be childish and start a flamefest.

Slightly Off-Topic:And MGS2 being a RPG is all about how you look at RPG, because if you take Role Playing Game in a very literal way, EVERY game is an RPG, but when you look at the major components of a game, you can see other things. Whereas the major component of Fallout id probably it's setting and freedom, in MGS2 it is more the way you go through the game(ie. the gameplay, action etc.), and the story, but the game gives you little freedom . I find that IMHO MGS2 isn't really an RPG.

And about FOOS, if you want people to respect your opinion, please respect the opinion of other people as well, and don't say that we should all give it a chance, because it is our _right_ to think that it is a shitty piece of crap which has nothing to do with Fallout other than the name. We do _not_ need to try it before saying it, because people have the right to make up their minds, we do _not_ need to listen to you and even _agree_ with you on _anything_. However, we do need to respect it. So, I respect your opinion, and dismiss it since I couldn't care less what you think, for me, only my opinion counts.

 

[Gay Wolf]

Well you certainly have a pont there, but still I stand by my thoughts. I dont know how people can judge something they never tried before. It just puzzles me, but its ok. I respect your opinion even though I don't agree. Thank you for actually being mature about forum conversation instead of...that guy who got the cookie lol.

 

[Briosafreak]

What I wanted to say, was unlike anything anybody has said in any of the threads (believe me, I checked)

Believe me, you didn`t

All I ask is that you take mine into consideration instead of posting a few quotes from me and flaming them like nobodys business (ala DarkUnderlord).

Hmmm now, why did he wrote this

Well, I'm fairly certain you're already brain dead, so turning off the machine won't be that much of a hassle.

Maybe because you started it:

Ugh, you die hard, cult following fans kill me...(...)
Don't listen to all these cronies bitch

And then DU wrote this

See, now that's funny, 'cause an action hack 'n slash is neither turn-based, unique or has anything to do with RPGs.

Because you were mixing everything, FOPos isn`t a turn-based unique RPG, it`s an action gore-fest created to make some quick bucks , and poorly made on top .
If you want to discuss FOPoS then read this first http://www.gamechronicles.com/qa/fallout/bos.htm and tell me that you liked it and why.
Don`t put role playing on the middle of this discussion, some of us have been playing RPGs for 20 years and mixing the two subjects together insults our inteligence.

 

[Gay Wolf]

Ok no, you took me all wrong there. When I was talking about Fallout being a unique turn based RPG that I was interested in I meant FALLOUT 1. Sorry for the confusion? Read it again before you flame me. Thanks.

BTW, when you said "Believe me you dident" care to PROVE me wrong? God can't you take a hint? Not just say I diden't go look around. Go rummage through all these posts and find something remotely close to what I was saying. Then I'LL be the judge of that.

 

[Briosafreak]

Crap. I just typed a few paragraphs on my Fallout:BOS observations. Then my computer froze, and it's gone forever. Basically, it boiled down to:

1. Thing X is not out yet. Everyone who loved Thing Y hates Thing X. This is universal on every message board everywhere.

2. Betty Page = Rowr.

3. FBOS's trailer is a graphics fiesta. And the 3D modeling looks very much like the the tiles and the rendered models.

4. If it turns out to be a crapcake, I'll call it a crapcake. But I'm going to make that call when I'm informed.

5. Tolkein isn't any less cool because somebody made a colectible card game out of Lord of the Rings.

Agreed, but you do have to at least see it try to walk; It's foolish to put a gun to its head based on rumor and speculation.

I found the graphics somewhere between impressive and average. The "Red megaman" is a suit of riot armor, which makes sense in Fallout. (Why would people spend months crafting MkI metal armor when they could just wear pre-formed impact plastic?)

Were you saying that if someone were to do a LotR inspired porn, it would devalue the original? I am doubtful.

I am disappointed that we're not getting FO3. I'm also looking forward to some mindless fun, revisiting the wasteland with a PS2 controller. They don't seem to have bastardized too much of the continuity, and this could have been handled much, much worse.

The bikini/thong thing makes me laugh. FO:T had one loading screen that showed some BoS woman in a metal thong, with the BoS logo on the ass. Yet this didn't seem to offend anyone.
One of the Pre-gen characters was curve-oriented, and "Sex appeal" was a perk, if I remember right. "Fluffer" was as well.


Is this thing set between 1 and 2? I haven't seen anything 'official' putting it anywhere in the timeline. If anything, it would go way before Fallout 1. ("Born as the last bombs fell" puts her birth in 2077, which is also when the brotherhood is founded. And probably explains the goofy symbol.)

But I usually stay out of these forums, and probably will continue to. Again, I like the idea of BoS, and hope they do a good job with it. What I don't like is when "Harder-core than thou" fans reject any posibility that a title will be fun, and want it to suffer or do poorly.

Also check this place http://www.duckandcover.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=34&sid=b8012ebf7783cf9f2571dbb53a562b22

Now on this :

Ok no, you took me all wrong there. When I was talking about Fallout being a unique turn based RPG that I was interested in I meant FALLOUT 1. Sorry for the confusion? Read it again before you flame me. Thanks.

Yeah, we all read the same but you say you meant another thing, that shows we`re not having reading problems, but instead you are having writing problems.
You are turning to be more clueless than i thought, shame.

 

[Gay Wolf]

The seccond quote had the right idea, but it lacked the flare that my post had. The other ones were just plain drabble. They just go on and on about pointless crap that nobody cares about, kinda like your posts. Please stop being "Captain Quote". One or 2 is fine to make me look like an idiot, but to think you wasted all that time. Well here's your cookie, now you and Mohrg6sic6 can share! Don't worry, plenty of cookies for all the flamers. Keep it coming, this is entertaining!

Forgot to add something, this is truely the icing on the cake...

Infact, I never even heard of Fallout untill I got it for FREE when it came with Baldur's Gate 1 Gold Box. Thats when it struck me that Fallout was a unique, and fun game. I enjoyed playing it, and it really was a kickass turn based RPG.

Now, explain to me, my dyslexic, how ANYBODY could confuse what I'm talking about here, with me refering to FO:BOS. If I am not mistaken, I was flamed for thinking, no better yet, KNOWING that Fallout 1 and 2 is 100% turn based. Come on man, do I really need to post that link explaining RPGs again? Once again, read, read, read!

 

[Briosafreak]

Uou are so clueles and stupid that it hurts

I was flamed for thinking, no better yet, KNOWING that Fallout 1 and 2 is 100% turn based

AHAHAHAH

 

[Briosafreak]

DarkUnderlord has the right to reply, so here goes:

You must be brain dead as well because if you think Fallout is NOT turn based... well then you know nothing about the entire combat system then.

Not what I said. Your original paragraph (which I quoted) is in reference to when it struck you that Fallout was a unique, and fun game. I enjoyed playing it, and it really was a kickass turn based RPG. My response was that FOOS is nothing like that 'cause an action hack 'n slash is neither turn-based, unique or has anything to do with RPGs. What, therefore, was the relevance in you saying that?

Also, What I meant by the title is that alot of the people bashing FO:BOS otherwise refered to as POS, dont know anything about FO:BOS.

As has been said before by the number of people who keep raising the same issue that you raise, there's a website detailing the background to FOOS, the world story, the storyline, at least 3 interviews and a whole bunch of screenshots and a trailer. I'd think that's enough information to base a decision on. After all, it's enough information you base most game decisions on BEFORE you buy the game (it's kinda hard to play a game BEFORE you guy it, especially with PC titles. Consoles are the only platform you get try before you buy).

Honestly, do any of you work on Chucks developement team? You work at Interplay? Do you get the "inside scoop" on everything?

Saint's the one who mostly gets the scoops. But like-wise, do you work for Interplay, do you work on Chuck's dev team? You sound like you could, but I doubt it. In which case, how do you know the game WON'T be a pile of shit? What evidence do you have that we don't? What did you read in the interviews that filled you with joy and anticipation, rather than a heavy sigh that "Fallout gets fucked over once again"?

Maybe the screenshots of Mrs. Thong were beta, and wont even appear in the final version.

They will. Chucky has confirmed it.

This is not uncommon. Now this idiotic behavior does not include all of you, just the ones that think they know everything about the game, and Interplay.

I just like how you've implied the Thong babes are wrong, and said the game will be better because they might be removed. Uhuh. They make all these models of thong girls, put thong girls in the trailer and THEN remove them? Right. If they're removing them, it'll be because we complained. No game designer releases hoardes of screenshots, a trailer AND mentions it in their FAQ justifying them, just to remove them.

Now Dark, I dont want to get into explaining the true definition of an RPG to you. I'm sure a big guy like you can figure that out. Well, if not I will post a nice little link for you at the end of this post.

DarkUnderlord, here is your link. I hope you learn something...
http://diabloii.net/columnists/a-rpg-types.shtml

Nice article, it confirms that FO:BOS is not an RPG.

passing the time by bashing another Fallout game thats not even completed isen't the answer

We're not doing it to pass the time, we're doing it to tell Interplay that fucking over the Fallout franchise isn't going to create guaranteed MEGA-SALES.

Anyways, It was nice to respond to one of the many flames I will recieve for being right

Right about what, exactly?

Mohrg, please tell me what you think about that article. I mean you do know RPG stands for right? Role playing game, which by definition means you play a role.

Oh I see, Doom must be an RPG then, because you play the role of a space marine. Space Invaders must also be an RPG, because you play the role of a pilot defending your planet form hoardes of aliens invaders.

WOW! Everything's an RPG!! That's a great definition you have there sunshine.

What I wanted to say, was unlike anything anybody has said in any of the threads (believe me, I checked) and if you can prove me otherwise, feel free to do so.

As Briosafreak demonstrated later, what you've said amounts to "Wait and see". Well gee, you're not the first person to say that, you're actually about the ninteenth. What, other than "wait and see" did you want to say?

Now the fact is everybody has their own opinion, and I very much respect that. All I ask is that you take mine into consideration instead of posting a few quotes from me and flaming them like nobodys business (ala DarkUnderlord).

Ummm... Thanks for your opinion!?

Ok no, you took me all wrong there. When I was talking about Fallout being a unique turn based RPG that I was interested in I meant FALLOUT 1. Sorry for the confusion? Read it again before you flame me. Thanks.

You should actually read what you write before you hit that little submit button. You compared FO:BOS to Fallout 1. That is not-a-good-thing™.

After Briosafreak points out what you can't find with the search function, we get this:

The seccond quote had the right idea, but it lacked the flare that my post had. The other ones were just plain drabble. They just go on and on about pointless crap that nobody cares about,

Kinda like your posts, hey? In the entire thread, you've done nothing but argue about an argument. You haven't raised anything new, and what you have done, you've apparently only done with more "flare" than others (as I said, apparently). As you said at the end of your first post, that's your 2 cents. Give us a $1, we've dealt with all the 2 centers before.

Please stop being "Captain Quote". One or 2 is fine to make me look like an idiot,

No, Briosafreak didn't quote anything at first. He didn't do that until you asked him to clearly show how stupid you are. You should probably thank him for doing what you lack the ability to do, which is use the search function (even though you claimed to have used it).

Infact, I never even heard of Fallout untill I got it for FREE when it came with Baldur's Gate 1 Gold Box. Thats when it struck me that Fallout was a unique, and fun game. I enjoyed playing it, and it really was a kickass turn based RPG.

Now, explain to me, my dyslexic, how ANYBODY could confuse what I'm talking about here, with me refering to FO:BOS. If I am not mistaken, I was flamed for thinking, no better yet, KNOWING that Fallout 1 and 2 is 100% turn based. Come on man, do I really need to post that link explaining RPGs again? Once again, read, read, read!

Actually, seeing as your gripe was about FO:BOS, I'd like to hear how you're above quote relates to FO:BOS. As I showed, it doesn't.

Fallout: Unique, and fun game. I enjoyed playing it, and it really was a kickass turn based RPG.
FO:BOS: Action hack 'n slash is neither turn-based, unique or has anything to do with RPGs.

See the difference? Well, you can't because you've been banned. But hopefully you'll be back.

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