Vaults food

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Blackened

I should set a cutom tite
I recently started playing a RPG with two friends, based on the Fallout universe. It's not like the regular PnP games, it's without any stats/levels/skills, just as realistic as possible, though I still wonder if that's gonna work for combat.

Anyway, I was wondering, what do the vault dwellers eat? I'm asking for vaults with closed doors. And where do they get that food from?

Please, state if your answer is canon. Made up answers are also appreciated.
 
They've stored enough canned food for 50-200 years of feeding 1000 people? Are you sure this is possible? If everyone eats 500 grams of food every day, this is 500 kg total daily, and 183 tons - yearly. This would require quite a lot space.

Aren't they producing it in the vault?
 
I'd figure that they reprocess the food with hydroponics, with the use of likewise reprocessed water.

I don't think even Swedish canned food could last that long :D

I don't think there is an established canon for that.
 
IMPORTANT VAULT STATISTICS
Vault Number ............................13
Starting construction date ....August 2063
Ending construction date ......March 2069
Starting Budget ........................$400,000,000,000
Final Budget, with interest ..$645,000,000,000
Total number of occupants ....1,000 (at capacity)
Total duration ..........................10 years (at capacity)
Number of living quarters ......100 (hot bunking required if at
maximum capacity)
VDSG – RESTRICTED – VTB-OO1-13
RESTRICTED 1—1
1
DonÕt let what could have happened bother you. We have
enough problems to deal with in the here and now.
- Overseer
Door thickness ..........................4 yards, steel
Earth coverage..........................3,200,000 tons of soil, at 200 feet
Computer control system ......Think machine
Primary power supply ............Geo-thermal
Secondary power supply........General Atomics Nuclear Power
backup systems
Power requirements................3.98mkw/day
Stores ..........................................Complete construction equipment,
hydro-agricultural farms, water
purification from underground
river, defensive weaponry to equip
10 men, communication, social and
entertainment files (for total
duration)

source: game manual from fallout trilogy
 
Its mentioned several times (I forget where... so, um... citation needed?!) that vaults feature a hydroponics lab, also, dehydrated foodstuffs in mass quantity (each vault would no doubt have vast storage facilities that would later have secondary functions) sadly the exact layout of a vault is to my best knowledge a mystery.

In FO1/ FO2 we see a standardised vault layout, but I expect that what we see as a player character is only a fraction of the vault as a whole.

In FO3 they have differing layouts and again, we never truly see a vault in its entirety.

here's some light reading: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault
 
Okay, they breed plants in the hydroponics lab. But where do they get their proteins from? Plants are a very poor source of proteins, and proteins are vital for the immune system.

Could they derive them from that dehydrated food in the storage? Will that food last that long?
 
Current day MRE packs (meal ready to eat) last for many years, and I'm sure in pressurised and contained under sterile conditions, I don't think its too far fetched that they would last a LOOONG time.

Looking up some details, in non frozen but well chilled conditions current MRE's last 130 months (just over a decade) and are expected they'd last longer. As these are entire meals containing all vitamins etc and several 'degradable' items I expect a pack which contained nothing but the freeze-dried / dehydrated parts would last even longer than that.

Coupled with fresh water supplies and a hydroponics supply of veg, along with other 'synthetic' sources of protein an vitamins there is no reason that a Vault couldn't last for a couple centuries with no interaction with the outside world.

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The better half has added that various fungi and pulses (beans etc) are very good protein sources.
 
Blackened said:
Okay, they breed plants in the hydroponics lab. But where do they get their proteins from? Plants are a very poor source of proteins, and proteins are vital for the immune system.

Could they derive them from that dehydrated food in the storage? Will that food last that long?
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mushrooms are plants, and they dont need as much light because they are fungus, perfect for underground, mushroom farms in boneyard?they are high in protein. so are beans
 
And they could breed people and feed them with plants from the hydroponics lab when they run out of meat.

Anyway, thanks for your answers. Now I see how to continue my RP.
 
Food isn't my worry. Other supplies are.

Let's assume they have some workshops, hydroponics, storerooms, chemistry lab etc and 101 has a staff large enough and skilled enough to produce stuff for use. But what about all the odds and sods that any mechanic/engineer/chemist would need supplies of? Stuff like copper, lead, chemicals, steel, glass, cloth, propane, oil, paper, wood, plastics, rubber etc. There would also be a fair few things 101 wouldn't be able to produce, such as vacum tubes, lightbulbs, printed circuit boards, magnets, fuses, spare parts etc. Over time, as the supplies of precusors runs out, the less they'll be able to make themselves. You can make do and work-around some problems, but for 200 years? I'm not suprised that the Overseer keeps the wastes out of the vault, I'm just amazed that nobody has ever needed to go out and buy some batteries.
 
KarmaPolice said:
You can make do and work-around some problems, but for 200 years? I'm not suprised that the Overseer keeps the wastes out of the vault, I'm just amazed that nobody has ever needed to go out and buy some batteries.
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It's sort of pointless to dig so deep into these things, because at some point or another you'll just have to agree that it's indeed impossible to do.
Remember Biosphere? What looks good on paper, can still blow up in your face once you apply it to RL.

I highly doubt Fallout shelters would prove to be a way for mankind to survive a nuclear catastrophe. I think it would just be a way to stall the inevitable, it's false hope. Polynesians and Eskimos would stand a far better chance at survival.
 
KarmaPolice said:
Food isn't my worry. Other supplies are.

101 has a staff large enough and skilled enough to produce stuff for use.
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If i recall correctly(I may be mixing post apoc worlds up a little): Each vault was supposed to have allowed access only to those deemed 'worthy' by note of skill sets, thus its safe to assume the original vault dwellers were basically all boffin's in one field or another, and over the generations these skills were supposed to be passed down, hence: saving mankind and its abilities.

But what about all the odds and sods that any mechanic/engineer/chemist would need supplies of? Stuff like copper, lead, chemicals, steel, glass, cloth, propane, oil, paper, wood, plastics, rubber etc. There would also be a fair few things 101 wouldn't be able to produce, such as vacum tubes, lightbulbs, printed circuit boards, magnets, fuses, spare parts etc. Over time, as the supplies of precusors runs out, the less they'll be able to make themselves. You can make do and work-around some problems, but for 200 years? I'm not suprised that the Overseer keeps the wastes out of the vault
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Insert Disk 1 - Fallout 1: -loading-

"our Water chisp has broken, and all our spares are used, you must go out into the wastes and...

any of that sound vaguely familiar?

I'm just amazed that nobody has ever needed to go out and buy some batteries.
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Read up a a bit in Allotrope's post about vaults.

Allotrope said:
Primary power supply ............Geo-thermal
Secondary power supply........General Atomics Nuclear Power
backup systems
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That's MORE than enough power supplied and 'mobile devices' I assume would have some form or re-chargeable batteries.
 
alec said:
I highly doubt Fallout shelters would prove to be a way for mankind to survive a nuclear catastrophe.
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You got to remember, though. The vaults are never meant to save anyone.

If it's needed, storage rooms can take even 90% of the vault, I don't see what would the problem be.
 
And where are those delicious little kiddies…what eaten by the Vault dwellers. Well that makes sense, eat the most useless members of society first, and then move up the food chain. :twisted:
 
They can't eat children in Fallout 3, as these are immortals. :>
 
I heard that the 17-year-old children meat is most highly valued. However, on the East Coast, they don't have European 17-years-old meat, because European kids are immortal until they reach 18. However, they do have meat of 17 years old American kids. Some say there are people who import 17-years-old European meat from the West Coast.
 
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